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Pilgrim's Pride to close Dallas plant, eliminate 1,000 jobs

There are 82 comments on the The Dallas Morning News story from Jul 29, 2011, titled Pilgrim's Pride to close Dallas plant, eliminate 1,000 jobs. In it, The Dallas Morning News reports that:

Trucks are loaded at the Pilgrim's Pride plant on Good-Latimer in Dallas. Chicken processor Pilgrim's Pride Corp announced today it will close a Dallas production plant in the next 60 days, eliminating 1,000 jobs.

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ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#22 Aug 14, 2011
James wrote:
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I can tell you where they are, sitting at home on unemployment, medicaid, WIC, disability and everything else they can get their hands on. They are on the front porch or blocking the entrance at Walmart with their 10 kids that medicaid paid for. Why work when the US Government will support your lazy behind. That includes Government housing for the front porch.
You tell me,why are those welfare people too good to do the work Hispanics do in processing? It's a start and if you apply yourself instead of loafing along and listening to some organizer's crap, you can move up the ladder or choose to wallow in receiving. I've had some pretty damm sorry jobs in my life but I used them all as a staircase to something better. The problem today is the Hispanics are doing this and OUR PEOPLE won't. Should we really feel sorry and pay these welfare cockroaches when there is work out there?
James

Mount Pleasant, TX

#23 Aug 14, 2011
What no comment Willie? Thought you would want to hire all of these poor unfortunate people that are on slave wages. I've noticed your postings in other areas. You can afford to pay them all executive salaries with perks can't you? After all some finish junior high and others have GED's and some even have high school diplomas. They are willing to work for at least $100 an hour in your neck of the woods.(LOL) I think your comments have caught up with you.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#24 Aug 14, 2011
Willie Granville wrote:
<quoted text>Yes Pilgrim helped families & towns. Then they got GREEDY, the same people & towns they helped, they help destroy them. I don't blame the Illegals over here they want to live. I blame companies like Pilgrims who pay SLAVE WAGES in order for a person to get a job or have a job. You say: eat more chicken and help Pilgrim (LOL) I think I will eat CROW.
Slave wages??? What do you really think is a fair wage for processing? Should it be more or less than roofing ,day labor,grass cutting,masonry,motel cleaning,domestic help,or any other butt busting but wage paying employment? Somebody needs to go to the medicine cabinet and get you a heaping dose of reality.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#25 Aug 14, 2011
James post #18: No you can't pay a guy executive wages for gutting chickens, but without that CHICKEN GUTTER that EXECUTIVE wouldn't have a job. If they are one of the BEST CHICKEN GUTTERS in the business PAY THE PERSON FAIRLY don't hire some Illegal saying I can get the job done cheaper. That Illegal don't pay taxes and companies like Pilgrim don't pay taxes in those cases, you are the one who foots the bill. Yes, I am a Democrat. Maybe I have been up North too long as you say. My brain may have FROZE, but it can thaw out. Not like some brains in the south where the brains have been BURNED because of the HEAT. You said you are sure there are some on SLAVE WAGES. Do you think it is right? How many do I want to save? If I could I would save them all if they wanted to work. I am paying the CROOKS in the Congress & Senate.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#26 Aug 15, 2011
just curious wrote:
Well said James!!! My previous yard person and his crew got to the same point about wanting to make an executive salary for mowing the lawn. I finally got fed up with it after years of his saying he wanted to make some "real money" and decided to do it myself. His rate to trim or do anything around my house is $25.00 per hour per person. Not only do these people not pay taxes, but they demand a high salary and send the majority of it to Central America. No more will I support that life style. When enough people get their fill being held ransom by these non educated, no experienced illegals, only then will they go back where they came from, or will stay here and go into another profession, robbery.
Once you found out they were Illegals, you should have started doing your yard work right then. I have needed work done on my cars,farm etc., did I hire them? No, something else I DON'T HIRE CRACKHEADS either to do work for me. I know my money is going to the ROCKMAN and I don't support him either he don't pay taxes.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#27 Aug 15, 2011
ThomasA: To answer your question. A fair wage would to pay this AMERICAN CHICKEN GUTTER is simple. The taxes this Illegal didn't pay, the taxes the Company didn't pay (because they didn't report it). That is for starters and I think it is fair. Oh yea I am not on MEDICATION I am still in my PRIME. You mention roofers,maids,lawn care etc. All of these jobs should be done in a Legal matter, and we all know Pilgrim & other companies haven't done this. I need a dose of REALITY, no these COMPANIES NEED A GOOD DOSE OF THE LAW.
James: You mention the farmers are getting a taste of CORPORATE, no they are getting a GOOD TASTE OF A ROYAL SCREWING something they have been getting for years. You mention go to school, right go back to school. Lets see 70 thousand dollars, pay it back about 100 thousand, maybe you can get a job if it hasn't been shipped over seas and if you want too much money we will hire an Illegal. My brain is thawing out. Some do make $100 an hour not only in New England, it depends on how you bid on a job. They do the same in your area it depends on what kind of work you do and I don't mean DRUG DEALING.
homo

Victoria, Seychelles

#28 Aug 15, 2011
wtf???
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#29 Aug 15, 2011
homo wrote:
wtf???
Yea that is what many will be saying this morning when they read my comments. Some wanted me to come out the gate well I am out the gate.
Sarah

Tyler, TX

#30 Aug 15, 2011
Willie Granville wrote:
James post #18: No you can't pay a guy executive wages for gutting chickens, but without that CHICKEN GUTTER that EXECUTIVE wouldn't have a job. If they are one of the BEST CHICKEN GUTTERS in the business PAY THE PERSON FAIRLY don't hire some Illegal saying I can get the job done cheaper. That Illegal don't pay taxes and companies like Pilgrim don't pay taxes in those cases, you are the one who foots the bill. Yes, I am a Democrat. Maybe I have been up North too long as you say. My brain may have FROZE, but it can thaw out. Not like some brains in the south where the brains have been BURNED because of the HEAT. You said you are sure there are some on SLAVE WAGES. Do you think it is right? How many do I want to save? If I could I would save them all if they wanted to work. I am paying the CROOKS in the Congress & Senate.
I think the guy is referring to legal employment with people working at minimum wage or a little higher. Illegal issue is not worth dealing with as it was proven that the illegals had people on the chicken farms providing the illegal documentation, not Pilgrim's Pride.
anyone else

Rockwall, TX

#31 Aug 15, 2011
Why not call Texas Employment? You just do not want to pay the share of ss and unemployment taxes so you chose to employ illigals.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#32 Aug 15, 2011
Sarah wrote:
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I think the guy is referring to legal employment with people working at minimum wage or a little higher. Illegal issue is not worth dealing with as it was proven that the illegals had people on the chicken farms providing the illegal documentation, not Pilgrim's Pride.
So in other words Americans should work all their lives at minimum wage? They never get a raise no matter how good they are, and how long they work for a company. Praise the Lord I got a job. The Illegal issue isn't worth dealing with you say? Why not it is UNLAWFUL. If the farmers were giving out fake documents out, lock their tails up. Pilgrim Pride didn't know when they delivered or picked up chickens on these farms, they saw & spoke to alot of Jesus's (many couldn't speak english) did they think they were dealing with JESUS CHRIST? Pilgrim is one not the only one GUILTY as SIN on that matter.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#33 Aug 15, 2011
anyone else wrote:
Why not call Texas Employment? You just do not want to pay the share of ss and unemployment taxes so you chose to employ illigals.
Correct and they are the ones talking about SS going broke. If you don't put money in your bank account and keep using it it will go broke.
Grim

Tyler, TX

#34 Aug 15, 2011
Willie Granville wrote:
<quoted text>So in other words Americans should work all their lives at minimum wage? They never get a raise no matter how good they are, and how long they work for a company. Praise the Lord I got a job. The Illegal issue isn't worth dealing with you say? Why not it is UNLAWFUL. If the farmers were giving out fake documents out, lock their tails up. Pilgrim Pride didn't know when they delivered or picked up chickens on these farms, they saw & spoke to alot of Jesus's (many couldn't speak english) did they think they were dealing with JESUS CHRIST? Pilgrim is one not the only one GUILTY as SIN on that matter.
People in certain positions can only go so high and then they cap out at their earning ability. You might pay an guy skinning chickens $7.75 to $8 and hour and the top of the scale for that position may be $8.50 depending on where they are working, for example, so he can't just work there for twenty years and eventually get elevated up to $50,000 a year. What you are saying is just crazy. People are at low wages because of their lack of education and the type of job they have. People go into business for themselves or get educations, etc. and guess what their income is more likely to increase. Sorry, don't agree with you here.
Tom

Mount Pleasant, TX

#35 Aug 15, 2011
Willie Granville wrote:
<quoted text>So in other words Americans should work all their lives at minimum wage? They never get a raise no matter how good they are, and how long they work for a company. Praise the Lord I got a job. The Illegal issue isn't worth dealing with you say? Why not it is UNLAWFUL. If the farmers were giving out fake documents out, lock their tails up. Pilgrim Pride didn't know when they delivered or picked up chickens on these farms, they saw & spoke to alot of Jesus's (many couldn't speak english) did they think they were dealing with JESUS CHRIST? Pilgrim is one not the only one GUILTY as SIN on that matter.
Take the emotion out of it and take a deep breath. She was referring to the illegals working on the Pilgrim's Farms. Pilgrim's was provided with what appeared to be legitimate documentation, until it was proven otherwise. It was the growers of the farms and the guys that catch the chickens that were employing the illegals. Believe it or not, possibly some of the very people that are casting the stones at Pilgrim's now. I think alot of these people are a bunch of hypocrites. In the farm situation as you are speaking about, most likely Pilgrim's did not employ these people, they were the employees of the farm, so it is not Pilgrim's responsibility to check their documentation, no more than it is your to go into Walmart and ask Jesus for his papers.
MPNative

United States

#36 Aug 15, 2011
You might want to do some research , Tom. After the ICE raids in Mt. Pleasant it was discovered that a lot of illegals were working in the plants. More than a few alledgedly even bought their false documents from HR employees.
Tom

Mount Pleasant, TX

#37 Aug 15, 2011
MPNative wrote:
You might want to do some research , Tom. After the ICE raids in Mt. Pleasant it was discovered that a lot of illegals were working in the plants. More than a few alledgedly even bought their false documents from HR employees.
Hmm, well I'll see if I can find a newspaper article or a news story in regard to this. Through all of this I have not see or read of anyone at Pilgrims HR providing the illegal documentation nor heard of it through any of the people I know working there.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#38 Aug 15, 2011
Grim wrote:
<quoted text>
People in certain positions can only go so high and then they cap out at their earning ability. You might pay an guy skinning chickens $7.75 to $8 and hour and the top of the scale for that position may be $8.50 depending on where they are working, for example, so he can't just work there for twenty years and eventually get elevated up to $50,000 a year. What you are saying is just crazy. People are at low wages because of their lack of education and the type of job they have. People go into business for themselves or get educations, etc. and guess what their income is more likely to increase. Sorry, don't agree with you here.
If this guy/gal been there for 20 years don't you think $12.00 an hour would be fair? Pilgrim has been said to be a low paying job, extremely fast pace, constant possibility of injury from the equipment workers have to use. They are in cold & wet conditions all the time. This isn't easy work. Now where you came up the figure of $50,000 a year for these workers I don't know, I will say this if a man/woman is payed $25,000 a year in these conditions and you are still making money pay the person.
Willie Granville

North Kingstown, RI

#39 Aug 15, 2011
Tom wrote:
<quoted text>
Take the emotion out of it and take a deep breath. She was referring to the illegals working on the Pilgrim's Farms. Pilgrim's was provided with what appeared to be legitimate documentation, until it was proven otherwise. It was the growers of the farms and the guys that catch the chickens that were employing the illegals. Believe it or not, possibly some of the very people that are casting the stones at Pilgrim's now. I think alot of these people are a bunch of hypocrites. In the farm situation as you are speaking about, most likely Pilgrim's did not employ these people, they were the employees of the farm, so it is not Pilgrim's responsibility to check their documentation, no more than it is your to go into Walmart and ask Jesus for his papers.
If I went to Walmart and ask Jesus for his papers and it had Christ for a last name I know I am in trouble. Just like the trouble some of Pilgrim Pride administrators got into in 2008. April 16, 2008 100 administrators arrested, 400 Illegals detained. Cities: Chattanooga, Tenn. Moorefield, W.V. Live Oak, Fl. Batesville, Ark. oh yea a place called Mt. Pleasant, Tx. If some of the farmers were hiring Illegals lock their tails up too.
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

#40 Aug 15, 2011
All this BS sounds like Bull$h17 coming from a UAW employee standing in front of a closed down auto factory, that they choked to death,talking about what could have and what should have been done to save trheir factory. Keep up the pressure and even your chicken processing plant will head South. Along with it goes the support operations,growers,and feed suppliers. The American people will not support you because they have the Walmartian virus that renders you brain dead when you walk in the store. Cheaper..........cheaper...... ....cheaper,cheaper.Did you look at the labels, did you check the point of origin? You may be a link in the wall of economic recovery
Tom

Mount Pleasant, TX

#41 Aug 15, 2011
Willie Granville wrote:
<quoted text>If this guy/gal been there for 20 years don't you think $12.00 an hour would be fair? Pilgrim has been said to be a low paying job, extremely fast pace, constant possibility of injury from the equipment workers have to use. They are in cold & wet conditions all the time. This isn't easy work. Now where you came up the figure of $50,000 a year for these workers I don't know, I will say this if a man/woman is payed $25,000 a year in these conditions and you are still making money pay the person.
Hey Willie, if you want to pay a guy that deserves $8.00 an hour,$12 and hour, then you go right ahead and see how long you stay in business. Hire all of these people and take them up North with you. I don't see you acting on this opportunity of yours though. The other catch is...if these people do not like where they are and what they are making then they need to quit and go somewhere that will pay them what they think they are worth. Good luck as that place does not exist. Many of the poor and uneducated are that way because they are too lazy to put out the extra effort to change their fate. Have they heard of the military for work and college, working a couple of jobs in order to pay the bills and go to college, working and obtaining student loans and grants to get ahead in life? We don't give handouts in Texas like they do in Washington and up North. You earn according to your abilities. You create your opportunities. If your not smart enough to do this then you deserve minimum wage for the rest of your life. If the machinery company I work for employed people like you are suggesting we would be out of business in 6 months or less. You sound like Barrack Obama. Take from the rich and distribute to the poor. Equalize everything. This is still the United States and we are still a capitalistic system, not a socialist system. That is until someone finds themselves down on their luck and then they was equalization. I've had it hard all my life, but you won't catch me whining about my woes like most of the people on this site. Think about what you are saying. Your not sounding like a capitalist or an American. Your sounding like your socialist President.

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