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Claudia Ziroli

Schaumburg, IL

#1 Jul 11, 2006
We are all so sorry Pioneertown! Does anyone know what is happening in Rimrock or the area behind Rimrock up against the BLM land?
Please post. THANKS!
Lisa

United States

#2 Jul 12, 2006
i know the fire is heading towards 247 fast with no signs of containment
Stefanie Fielding

Homer, AK

#3 Jul 12, 2006
hi my name is stefanie fielding does anyone know what is happening in pioneertown and can someone tell me how bad it is getting and how many homes have been lost and if my ant alexa please I need to know ASAP thank u
Jim Reilly

Downingtown, PA

#4 Jul 12, 2006
Stefanie Fielding wrote:
hi my name is stefanie fielding does anyone know what is happening in pioneertown and can someone tell me how bad it is getting and how many homes have been lost and if my ant alexa please I need to know ASAP thank u
here is some news from the local news services there:
From the Los Angeles Times
Wildfire Near Joshua Tree Spreads, Routing Residents
Old West-flavored Pioneertown gets the brunt as flames get out of control, claiming 15,000-plus acres.
By Susannah Rosenblatt
Times Staff Writer
July 12, 2006
A 3-day-old wildfire flared out of control Tuesday, scorching more than 17,000 acres and destroying more than 30 homes and outbuildings in and around Pioneertown, the Old West outpost and former movie set outside Joshua Tree National Park in San Bernardino County, fire officials said.
Called the Ridge fire and caused by a lightning strike at 8:30 a.m. Sunday, it was being fanned by 20-mph winds. Mandatory evacuations were ordered in Pioneertown, Pipes Canyon, Burns Canyon, Flamingo Heights, Rimrock and Gamma Gulch, where residents scrambled to protect homes and businesses and drive horses to safety. Morongo Valley was also being threatened, but no evacuations had been ordered there by late Tuesday, said Annette Avila, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection Glenn Barley, fire information officer with the state fire agency in San Bernardino County, said temperatures in the mid-90s, low humidity and strong winds combined to push embers from what was a small fire on a remote ridge north of Morongo Valley across desert scrub, Joshua trees and fine grasses.
"There's plenty of fine fuels to carry and spread the fire," which was burning northeast and not threatening Yucca Valley, the largest town in the region, Barley said.
Evacuations were ordered for a widespread area where 800 to 1,000 people live, Avila said. An evacuation center was set up at Yucca Valley High School. In all, 2,500 firefighters were battling the blaze.
Officials said two civilians and seven firefighters suffered burns and other minor injuries. The blaze filled the sky with reddish-white smoke.
The area "is pure pandemonium: Everybody running around with horse trailers trying to help everybody evacuate their horses," said Carol Post, owner of the Red Dog Saloon on Pioneertown's main drag, Mane Street. Post has been restoring the watering hole — which burned down in the 1960s — for two years, and was just about to open shop.
"I was very nervous," she said, describing how the flames licked a few lots away from her bar Tuesday afternoon.
She was forced to remain at home in Yucca Valley, abandoning the cow skulls, 1940s- and '50s-era movie posters, and old Pioneertown photos plastered on the Red Dog's walls.
"It's kind of a helpless feeling, because you can't be there to pour water on your roof," said Post, 70.
Jim Austin's phone was ringing off the hook with neighbors worried about the fire's spread and lamenting having to leave their horses behind as they fled the valley.
The owner of Rimrock Ranch Cabins was in San Diego, checking online as to the fate of his four guest houses, which had to be evacuated.
"It's been hell," Austin said of the long-distance emergency. Firefighters blocked another of Austin's neighbors from returning home to retrieve her leukemia medication.
"If a lot of that stuff burns down, it'll be very, very sad," Austin said.
Jeremy Chandler

San Jose, CA

#5 Jul 12, 2006
Claudia Ziroli(MOM!)- I was forwarded your earlier email. You can email me directly at: [email protected]

I have been read a lot of conflicting reports about Burns Canyon...

Initially it was said that it was hit hard, but last I've heard is that Burns Canyon has only been evacuated today (Wednesday), and that firefighters have been trying to keep the fire south of Pipes Canyon Road. If this is correct, then our place, Patti's, the A-W's, Garths and all the folks north of the ridge MIGHT still be OK. We can only hope.

Some of my friends have houses a bit further east, off of Old Woman Springs Road and are up there now seeing what they can do. Hopefully I'll get some new info soon, and I'll let you all know.
Karen

Indio, CA

#6 Jul 13, 2006
Looks like a war zone up here!!
BarDex

Beltsville, MD

#7 Jul 13, 2006
Anyone have any updates on Morongo Valley? I'm specifically interested in the Big Morongo Canyon area North of Hwy 62. My parents live up that way, and while I'm sure they've evacuated, we haven't spoken and I wonder how things are going.

David
in Maryland
Robert Neal

United States

#8 Jul 13, 2006
Has the fire crossed Old Woman Springs Road yet?
Kevyn Thaxton

San Jose, CA

#9 Jul 13, 2006
Claudia Ziroli wrote:
We are all so sorry Pioneertown! Does anyone know what is happening in Rimrock or the area behind Rimrock up against the BLM land?
Please post. THANKS!
Well as of right now the fire has comsumed an estimated 47,000 acres. There are evacuations in effect on Morongo Valley, Burns Canyon, and surrounding areas. As far as Keys Ranch area most of the homes were lost. I was up there on Wednesday, with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Search and Rescue team doing evacuations. Mostly doing evacuations above Palo Verde in the Morongo Valley. Any Questions.. You can email me at [email protected]
As far as Pioneertown, I do know that the old town building were saved, but as far as homes, Im not from around there so i dont know town names and areas! Sorry!
God Bless.
Kevyn Thaxton

San Jose, CA

#10 Jul 13, 2006
Old Woman Springs. Dont know where its at, but I do know that the fire has not crossed highway 62 yet!
Jeremy Chandler

San Jose, CA

#11 Jul 13, 2006
Robert,

Reports I've recieved from friends indicate that the fire has not extended east of Old Woman Springs Rd, though it had come within a mile or two as of Wednesday. My understanding is that the eastern front has been stabilized somewhat.

I'll try to report more, as I hear it.
Gina

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Jul 13, 2006
Why aren't anyone stopping the fire? I am very angry that my house are burn down, We lost a lot of our stuff and clothes! Where are we supposed to live, eat, sleep,and survived?!!! WE have six people in the family and have no money!!!!!
Kevyn Thaxton

San Jose, CA

#13 Jul 13, 2006
Gina wrote:
Why aren't anyone stopping the fire? I am very angry that my house are burn down, We lost a lot of our stuff and clothes! Where are we supposed to live, eat, sleep,and survived?!!! WE have six people in the family and have no money!!!!!
If you havent been reading the newspapers are watching the news, you havent noticed that there are over 1,500 firefighters fighting this fire, and about 6-8 air support out there. The fire fighters are doing the best they can to fight this fire, but the terrain is very very rough. They cant get ground pounders or strike teams up there. As for the fires. You gotta look at it the firefighters veiw point. They are there to prevent loss of lives. Houses are replaceable, lives are not. Now you being angry at the firefighters for not fighting this fire. I am a little irratated too. Im irratated at you thinking that these firefighters are doing anything to stop this fire! I was up there at the Morongo/Sawtooth fire! I was checking damaged homes, and evacuating people out of Palo Verde. Ive seen the devestation that this fire has done, and I have seen and experianced stuff that you will never see! You have 6 people in your family. You should be glad that you got out alive and safe! If you want to sit there and think that the firefighters are not doing there job! How bout you put on a turn out suit, and go out there! I am very sorry you lost your house, but they do have home owners insurance for these things!!
Kevyn Thaxton

San Jose, CA

#14 Jul 13, 2006
Also with the Govenor making San Bernardino County a state of disaster, you might be able to get housing assistance!! And there are 77 government fire agencies and 13 local agencies and 8 support crews fighting this fire! Im sorry for getting upset earlier.
Old Fire Recovery Group

San Diego, CA

#15 Jul 13, 2006
Anyone who lost their home in a fire, please check out our website. We banded together after the 2003 Old Fire and have been keeping tons of information on our site.

http://www.oldfirerecoverygroup.org

Lila
Joan Z

United States

#16 Jul 13, 2006
Does anybody know if homes ahve been lost in the Skyline Ranch area off Old Woman Spring Road. I am in San Diego, right now, but my house is on Carlsbad. I would appreciate any information
Jeremy Chandler

San Jose, CA

#17 Jul 13, 2006
Gina,

I am very sorry for your family's loss. I know from past experience how you feel right now, but rest assured that the good people on the ground have done anything and everything they possibly could to assist us. Our firefighters and public workers work very, very hard, selflessly, to protect our families and our interests. They are not to blame. Rather, we need to support them as best as we can. I know that this is difficult for you, and I extend my deepest sympathies to you, your family, and everybody impacted by the recent events.
Jan

San Diego, CA

#18 Jul 13, 2006
I am so sorry for all of you in this fire area. We were in the 2003 Cedar fire here in San Diego area. I hope and pray you will be safe. Terrible to get through but you will. Thinking good thoughts fo all.
John

Gillette, WY

#19 Jul 13, 2006
Im in twentynine palms and cant find any info on this fire but i see it creeping in on us and can smell it more by each passing minute, which way is the fire moving, and how close is it to twentynine palms now?
betty

United States

#20 Jul 14, 2006
Is the fire heading towards Joshua Tree National Park? Is the historic part of Pioneertown still ok?

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