Cougar suspected of killing man has been captured, killed (11:4...

A mountain lion that may have killed a Pinos Altos man was captured in a snare and killed this morning, according to the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish. Full Story
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Ben

Santa Fe, NM

#21 Jun 26, 2008
Ted, I think I can see what your trying to say, but dude, some of these kids are kind of young and way to inexperienced to get it, man.

Some of the following is sort of graphic, so if you are to young, or easily upset, you may not want to read it. But it may help some people understand why the big cat was better off dead.

I had a friend killed by a bear up in Alaska. No one was feeding the bears, so no one knows why it happened. It was not a pretty sight - nothing to joke about. Everyone thought he had played hooky. I'll spare the details of what his sisters found on their way home. They will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. The next day a few dozen men went out to track and kill him. But the bear that did it was very easy to locate. He returned to the scene of the crime, right up the school steps the next day, and tried to take the door off. He could see, hear, or smell children in there. But it took two days to put him down, because our teacher's shots weren't on target and he ran off with a shattered leg. Yes - we always had guns in school back then. It seemed to me that he couldn't help it. He was almost like some alcoholics that have that first drink. He came right back the next day and they shot him dead on the roadway behind the school. If he had been captured and put in a cage, I think he would only have suffered more every time he saw or heard children. He would been depressed for the rest of his life because he could not live free and eat the easy new food he had discovered. This is how it is when you live with wild life. People are beginning to forget things like this.
shane

Huntsville, AL

#22 Jun 26, 2008
"People are beginning to forget things like this."

That is entirely true, and at the root of the problem.
People are merely animals themselves, higher level thinking is our only advantage over other animals.
Within that higher level thinking are things like compassion, which is a good thing, but in this case we need to use logic and reason.
Logic and reason based on previous experience tell us what predatory animals do after they've eaten a human. They kill and eat more humans.

Kinda like middle eastern terrorists.
proudamericanwom an

Las Cruces, NM

#24 Jun 27, 2008
If it were my child or dear loved one, yes, I would still be asking for it not to be killed but relocated to a more suitable environment. Why? If this type of thing happened to my child, just like the kids who were under the influence and were attacked by the tiger, I would hold my children accountable for their actions! I understand that this is a wild animal, and i've taught my kids to know the difference as well. Maybe if we as a society would start holding ourselves accountable for our own actions, and even some times stupid decisions instead of blaming everyone and everything else - we'd be a more productive society.
reebie wrote:
<quoted text>it is however the first time it took human life, i LOVE animals, LOVE LOVE animals, i adore their beauty and their purpose. however, MODERATION IS A WONDERFUL THING. i just have to wonder if this was your child or dear loved one that was killed,. would you still be on this post begging for its mercy, or would you use your god given head, and show mercy to the animal, and other human beings. no one here is denying animal cruelty does not exist , as with child abuse and other horrendous issues in america,,,,,
Bob Parker

Atlanta, GA

#25 Jun 27, 2008
I feel sorry for the cat. It was just doing what cats do, probably starving...
I love living around them knowing they are around. Amazing animals.
Bob Parker

Atlanta, GA

#26 Jun 27, 2008
I have a summer home out here, no cats back home...
shane

Farmington, NM

#27 Jun 27, 2008
They are wonderful creatures!
It's clearly through no fault of the cat that this is an issue, they just do what they do.
The problem is that we as a society,(and no society is different) cannot allow a big cat to go on killing people (which it will do).

This one in particular now knows that we're easy prey (soft, hairless, and harmless), and it's nature will now be to go for the "easy" prey (us).

“n stuff..”

Since: Apr 08

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#28 Jun 27, 2008
proudamericanwoman wrote:
If it were my child or dear loved one, yes, I would still be asking for it not to be killed but relocated to a more suitable environment. Why? If this type of thing happened to my child, just like the kids who were under the influence and were attacked by the tiger, I would hold my children accountable for their actions! I understand that this is a wild animal, and i've taught my kids to know the difference as well. Maybe if we as a society would start holding ourselves accountable for our own actions, and even some times stupid decisions instead of blaming everyone and everything else - we'd be a more productive society.
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please forgive my complete disdain toward your last comment, but it is complete bs, if you truley have children,, under the infuence or not, there is no way a true parent could identify their child, their own, flesh and blood, identify, a dear loved one who had been maimed,and or ripped apart, torn apart by a wild animal, and not be enraged. and devastated. an animal, a human, a train, a car, if my child is senslessly killed by anything, i hope i would do my best to make sure it never happened again. i cannot imagine in my wildest dreams EVER putting an animal before my child. BIZZARE -i will not comment again, your opinion is extremist, and further banter will be a waste of time. have a good day
Montana Girl

Salida, CO

#29 Jun 27, 2008
Has your hometown ever had a mountain lion stalking your school children playing in the school yard?! It is sad that the lion HAD to be put down. But, they did HAVE to do it. Mountain lions are not only forced down to more populated location because of lack of food but because they have been forced there by other mountain lions. Once a lion takes over an area then that is where it will remain. Don't place humanity upon an animal. It is an animal NOT human.
Helena Handbasket

Santa Fe, NM

#30 Jun 28, 2008
"Once a lion takes over an area then that is where it will remain ... "
... until a younger, stronger, lion comes along to displace it, and then it gets desperate and looks around for easier prey in a less desirable territory(near humans). Remember, this is constantly going on out there.
Back in the old days *she rambled on, and on, sounding a little like Grandpa on The Simpson* the frontiersmen (and frontierswomen) would wear a skunk-hat, something like the famous coonskin cap on Daniel Boon, to discourage lion and bear attacks(actually, coon was fictitious -'ol Dan'el wore skunk! Walt Disney thought coon would look better, and would be taken more seriously. Only Curly ever told the truth. He wore the authentic skunk-skin hat in one episode of The Three Stooges.). A patch of black and white stripes on clothing, could be just as effective.(Anyone care to test this out?;-))
Another strategy, sometimes employed by Native American hunters, was to paint two eye-spots on the back of either your head, or shoulders.(You could try a couple of large, contrasting, shiny buttons sewn onto the back of your hat?) Today, something like this is sometimes used by 'stangers that long-ride on mountain trails. Spanish Mustang riders will paint two large, false eyes either on their hat, or even right on their Spanish Mustang's rump. Most predators prefer to sneak attack from the rear, so (in theory) it confuses them.
-Keep the sun at your back, the wind in your face, and your powder dry -'cause no one likes a sun burnt face, a cold backside, or soggy powdered sugar donuts! ;-)
Helena Handbasket

Santa Fe, NM

#31 Jun 28, 2008
proudamericanwoman wrote:
... I would still be asking for it not to be killed but relocated to a more suitable environment....
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Proudamericanwoman, from my experience every person's opinion has merit. Just curious, what would be a suitable location? JMHO, it would require a 0 chance of it encountering another human - ever! And how could it's relocation be financed, private donations?
proudamericanwom an

Las Cruces, NM

#32 Jun 30, 2008
Go back to school and take reading over again, providing you did it the first time. Never did I state that I would put any animal ahead of my children. Of course I would be outraged, upset, distraught, you name it, if one of my kids were ever hurt or killed. It's no different if one of my children were drinking and driving and hit someone. Accountability would still come to the forefront, and I wouldn't blame the other driver for getting in my child's way. Responsibility, plain and simple. Hope I didn't "waste your time" by providing a clear and comprehendable response to your inability to translate the written word.
reebie wrote:
<quoted text> please forgive my complete disdain toward your last comment, but it is complete bs, if you truley have children,, under the infuence or not, there is no way a true parent could identify their child, their own, flesh and blood, identify, a dear loved one who had been maimed,and or ripped apart, torn apart by a wild animal, and not be enraged. and devastated. an animal, a human, a train, a car, if my child is senslessly killed by anything, i hope i would do my best to make sure it never happened again. i cannot imagine in my wildest dreams EVER putting an animal before my child. BIZZARE -i will not comment again, your opinion is extremist, and further banter will be a waste of time. have a good day
proudamericanwom an

Las Cruces, NM

#33 Jun 30, 2008
How about first finding out why these wild animals are coming down into residential areas, which this one was not from what the media reported. How about humans not attempt to hand feed them? The state has departments that handle this very thing, and if they won't step up (I understand killing the animal is much cheaper than any other solution) then we have the federal government. We have a ton of animal rights organizations as well, how about any of them - at least hopefully they'd have the knowledge and experience to know how to handle this type of situation better then killing. We try to rehab sex offenders, child rapists, murderers, but we can't find a more suitable environment for a mountain lion?
Helena Handbasket wrote:
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Proudamericanwoman, from my experience every person's opinion has merit. Just curious, what would be a suitable location? JMHO, it would require a 0 chance of it encountering another human - ever! And how could it's relocation be financed, private donations?

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