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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#76155 Sep 1, 2014
PART 4

The Bhagawata gives marvellous microscopic details about the origin of a person (Purusha). It is narrated in a form of a story of He and She.(3/6/1-5). He noticed that unless He and She unite, reproduction is not possible. Therefore He conjugated with She. He entered into her 23 principles and brought together all the 23 principles. He stimulated her creative energy. Her 23 principles got activated, they conjugated with his 23 principles and the combined energy of those 23 principles
reproduced the person. This description resembles closely with the modern observations. The 23 principles are the 23 Chromosomes. It is amusing to see that the Mahabharata mentions 24 principles named as Gunawidhi and the Bhagawata tells 23. Modern science also went through the same confusion. Up to 1962 all the textbooks mentioned 24 chromosomes, but thereafter 23 are mentioned. The scientist who counted 24 chromosomes got the Nobel Prize. At the same time another scientist declared that chromosomes are 23. He did not get the prize. However, later on it was confirmed that chromosomes are 23. The same might have happened between the scientists of the Mahabaharata and the Bhagawata. The Mahabharata mentions 24 Gunawidhi, including the Prakruti or Pinda or the genetic cell. Gunawidhi is a descriptive and scientific name. Guna means characters, which depend on the chromosomes. Widhi means the functions, which also depend on the chromosomes. The genetic cell plays an important role in reproduction. A genetic cell of a cow produces a cow and not a horse. Therefore, Vyasa might have considered the Prakruti or Pinda as
Gunawidhi. Modern science has shown that the 23 chromosomes of a sperm join with those of an ovum and then an embryo forms. This fact was discovered by ancient India at least 7500 years ago, since the Mahabharata.


The Bhagawata goes ahead to describe even the cell division, thus :

3/6/7 states that the embryo divided itself once, ten times and three times.( l fcHkHkkt vkReuk ,d/kk] ník/kk] f=/kkA ) It is the first descent of the fraction of Paramatma. By one division one cell divided to form two cells. This happened ten times, so that 2 cells formed. It happened three times so that 2& #61489;cells formed. It is surprising to note that modern science has found out that so many cells do form a newly born baby. Three times is separately told, because multiplication happens at three levels,namely ectoderm, endoderm and mesoderm, according to modern science.


It shows that the sages had knowledge up to the level of modern science. Not only that they were far advanced than modern science. Modern science has not understood why a normal couple does not reproduce. Sages say that Jeevatma is not perishable. At the time of death, it leaves the physical body and goes to Bhuvarloka. Then it comes down with rainwater, enters a food grain, goes in to a male and occupies a sperm. With that sperm it enters the female and joins with an ovum to create an offspring. The sperm on which rides Atman gets success to win an ovum. During one coitus 200 to 300 millions of sperms are deposited in a female passage. Out of them only one enters an ovum. Why that one only? Science says it is a chance. This is not a scientific reply. Sages have scientific reply. They say that the embryo is the first descent of a fraction of Atman. That part of Atman is named as Prana. Prana enters in and guides the sperm to enter an ovum.


Why does a normal couple remain issueless? Science has no reply. Sages tell that no Prana comes to ride over a sperm, to reproduce.

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#76156 Sep 1, 2014
PART 5

This theory explains who is responsible to deliver a child. Science has two views. One view says that the mother is responsible, while other says the baby is responsible. If mother decides time of delivery, why every time the gestation periods change? If the child decides delivery, then the question comes that after 7 months the baby is viable, then what does it do in womb for two months more? Sages give a perfect reply. When Prana enters the child in womb, it comes out of water. This water is the amniotic fluid. Child comes out of it, when Prana enters it. Thus the delivery depends on Prana, and not on either mother or baby. Prana is subtle. It enters a sperm, meets an ovum, and by inducing Jeeva or life, begins work of building a living body. Then it goes away, only to re-enter at the time of delivery. The Bhagawata says (3/26/63-70) that all the organs of a living body are ready, their Dewatas (which means energy) have begun work, even then the baby does not come out of water. Finally, Kshetrajna Atman stepped in Chitta and aroused it from water. It means that the baby comes out of amniotic fluid, when Kshetrajna Prana enters it.


Thus the Bhagawata of 3600 years ago and still more ancient scriptures, like the Mahabharata and the Upanishads, show profound scientific knowledge, which can be used today. Our scientists should work laboriously on this treasure of knowledge.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76157 Sep 1, 2014
somebody is worshipping their tushy again
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76158 Sep 1, 2014
NOTE ON DR P V VARTAK

1) I will be posting some other great research findings of Dr P V Vartak who uses the ancient Vedic texts as a guide to present their research findings in modern language. The findings on embryology/chromosomes gleaned from the Shrimad Bhagwatam (posted above) that dates back several millennia are stupendous and much more lies in store for readers.

2) No other religious scripture of the world comes anywhere close to the Bhagwatam or to the other Vedic texts. The books of other religions are mostly based on mumbo jumbo, violence, sectarianism, fanaticism, or childish teachings.

3) Besides, Dr Vartak has a well-developed 6th sense that makes him a remote viewer of a high order and whatever he touches begins to emit a sweet fragrance.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76159 Sep 1, 2014
that should be Bhagwata Purana, not the Shrimad Bhagwatam.

Since: Aug 14

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#76160 Sep 1, 2014
I am going to become a dad. My wife is pregnant with our first child. Dolly darling, I am coming. Bye, everyone.

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76161 Sep 1, 2014
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76162 Sep 1, 2014
If it's a boy, we'll name him Johnny (but, ooops, Johnny is BMZ, the toilet pot!). So, we'll rather name him Jolly. LOL. If it's a girl, we'll name her Holly or Bolly. LMAO.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76163 Sep 1, 2014
I just hope that my kid doesn't turn out abnormal like say a homosexual like so many posters here. ROFL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76164 Sep 1, 2014
Jolly or Holly or Bolly. 8 months more for you to pop out into the world. Bye, till then. LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76165 Sep 1, 2014
TRUMP TOWER

Hey, BTW, Donald Trump is getting an iconic Trump Tower constructed in South-Central Mumbai which will have all the luxury trappings of a typical apartment block built by him. The interiors will be done by a classy Singapore firm. Most of the apartments got sold out in the first week itself that the offer was made. The Trump Tower will have a helipad/run way. However, the 3/4 bedrooms, living room and kitchen apartments in the Trump Tower are priced rather low and begin at a mere USD 1.5 millions. Shame! A similar super-luxurious apartment in South Mumbai's Carmichael Road, Warden Road, Kemps Corner, Breach Candy, Altamount Road, Walkeshwar, Cuffe Parade, Peddar Road or Malabar Hill would cost nearly ten times more or higher. There are average-sized luxury apartments on Nepeansea Road, beside the elite Walsingham House Girl's School, and other neighboring areas, costing upwards of USD 25 millions despite the so-called slump in the property market. Well, anyway. Home is where the heart is!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76166 Sep 1, 2014
JOEL wrote:
I just hope that my kid doesn't turn out abnormal like say a homosexual like so many posters here. ROFL.
actually it could be a teachable moment for you
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76167 Sep 1, 2014
IDEAL HOME

A house need not be large or luxurious or expensive but it should be homely, aligned in the correct directions in keeping with the orientation of the geo-magnetic/geo-gravitational fields for best mind-body balance, clean/hygienic, friendly, free of the vibes of serious personality defects of the inhabitants, devoid of disembodied entities of a malevolent nature, brightly lit, have a pleasing feel and a soothing odor, be energy efficient and be filled with humane, welcoming and loving persons.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76168 Sep 1, 2014
JOEL wrote:
TRUMP TOWER
Hey, BTW, Donald Trump is getting an iconic Trump Tower constructed in South-Central Mumbai which will have all the luxury trappings of a typical apartment block built by him. The interiors will be done by a classy Singapore firm. Most of the apartments got sold out in the first week itself that the offer was made. The Trump Tower will have a helipad/run way. However, the 3/4 bedrooms, living room and kitchen apartments in the Trump Tower are priced rather low and begin at a mere USD 1.5 millions. Shame! A similar super-luxurious apartment in South Mumbai's Carmichael Road, Warden Road, Kemps Corner, Breach Candy, Altamount Road, Walkeshwar, Cuffe Parade, Peddar Road or Malabar Hill would cost nearly ten times more or higher. There are average-sized luxury apartments on Nepeansea Road, beside the elite Walsingham House Girl's School, and other neighboring areas, costing upwards of USD 25 millions despite the so-called slump in the property market. Well, anyway. Home is where the heart is!
Stop being so self impressed

Trump licensed out his name years ago, and there are dozens, if not a hundred tall buildings in his name. Any local developer can buy the trademark name now. Where I live, in a small city in southern New England, there is a Trump Tower less than a mile from my neighborhood, and TWO more 15 miles away in two different NY suburbs.

Incidentally, the buildings are known to be of shoddy construction. Yes, people spend lots of money to buy in, but the locals make fun of them.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#76169 Sep 1, 2014
forgot to mention the obvious. Trump himself has nothing to do with the project. The developer buys the name mainly to "impress" the local authorities to process the permit approvals as quicklya s possible with the minimal of questioning, as somewhat to "impress" sheep like you so as to invest your money.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76170 Sep 1, 2014
JOEL wrote:
TRUMP TOWER
Hey, BTW, Donald Trump is getting an iconic Trump Tower constructed in South-Central Mumbai which will have all the luxury trappings of a typical apartment block built by him. The interiors will be done by a classy Singapore firm. Most of the apartments got sold out in the first week itself that the offer was made. The Trump Tower will have a helipad/run way. However, the 3/4 bedrooms, living room and kitchen apartments in the Trump Tower are priced rather low and begin at a mere USD 1.5 millions. Shame! A similar super-luxurious apartment in South Mumbai's Carmichael Road, Warden Road, Kemps Corner, Breach Candy, Altamount Road, Walkeshwar, Cuffe Parade, Peddar Road or Malabar Hill would cost nearly ten times more or higher. There are average-sized luxury apartments on Nepeansea Road, beside the elite Walsingham House Girl's School, and other neighboring areas, costing upwards of USD 25 millions despite the so-called slump in the property market. Well, anyway. Home is where the heart is!
Shows the outrageous mark up of Indian real estate and the corruption by Indian developers. A 3 br condo at the Trump in Chicago sells for $2.67 -$3.5 million depending on the level of the floor. But, labor and material costs in Chicago v. India are the cause of the difference.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76171 Sep 1, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
actually it could be a teachable moment for you
He has absolutely no understanding of the joy of being a father.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#76172 Sep 1, 2014
Get lost. ha ha ha ha
Eric

Aurora, IL

#76173 Sep 1, 2014
JOEL wrote:
Get lost. ha ha ha ha
Hey, if you are going to post this drek, you have to take the responses.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#76174 Sep 1, 2014
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