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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72039 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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former res

Cheshire, CT

#75261 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe ---YES. In my mind it is a delicacy for you but NOT for me.
Former---my raven-colored friend.
HughBe--- The only sensible thing in your post, my cloven foot snow-coloured friend.
Former---More like a pink sand beach. St Lucia perhaps. Or Bermuda.
HughBe--- Thanks for the correction and I take it that you are that lacking that you feel that I am raven-coloured. Why not try BROWN shoe polish as I am far closer to that.
You're the dummy who called my comment "sensible" - only later to come back and correct me.

Now I just think you're the color of slow and clueless.

I know black people who have gotten sunburn. Has that ever happened to you?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75262 Jul 15, 2014
former res wrote:
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Sounds like a case of child neglect and/or endangerment.
<quoted text>
Don't know. It would likely be state by state.
<quoted text>
In your mind, what is the comparison between the two issues?
Then it's the same you as you and your wife publicly restating your wedding vows.
HughBe---A woman was arrested for leaving her 9-year-old alone at the playground while she went to WORK.

Former---Sounds like a case of child neglect and/or endangerment.

HughBe--- It sounds like you have never walked in the woman's shoe. I am touched by the CARE and concern.

Now, I vaguely recall that a 6-year-old was arrested in the US for some BS. Was that CHILD not in need of CARE and PROTECTION by the police?

HughBe---Question, at what age can a parent legally leave a child alone? In Jamaica it is 7.

Former---Don't know. It would likely be state by state.

HughBe--- Find out and if it is 7 and the MOM believes that her 9-year-old was safe then it would not be neglect. The experiences and circumstances of the poorer class is not the same as those more privileged.

HughBe---Compare the above case of the woman and her daughter with gays who have been PUBLICLY CELEBRATING being GAY for over 20 years in America and keep in mind that the practice is ILLEGAL in most states.

Former---In your mind, what is the comparison between the two issues?

HughBe--- Do the comparison. Help: If she did something wrong and was arrested why not GAYS who flout the law?

Former---Then it's the same you as you and your wife publicly restating your wedding vows.

HughBe--- Get off the ganja. Marriage is NOT illegal. WE are talking about PROMOTING an ILLEGAL activity. Get it?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75263 Jul 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the dummy who called my comment "sensible" - only later to come back and correct me.
Now I just think you're the color of slow and clueless.
I know black people who have gotten sunburn. Has that ever happened to you?
Your problem is poor language skills.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75264 Jul 15, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you HATE?
Did your rabbis translate the Hebrew word as ABOMINATION? Why the HATE from them, Judahist?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75265 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
.......Compare the above case of the woman and her daughter with gays who have been PUBLICLY CELEBRATING being GAY for over 20 years in America and keep in mind that the practice is ILLEGAL in most states........
What is "illegal in most states?"

Gay marriage is rapidly becoming legal in more and more states everyday. I believe we're up to 20. And it's just a matter of time for the rest.

The legal use of weed will be the next gay marriage, only 2 so far but watch out America!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75266 Jul 15, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Most Jews I know do not share the HATEFUL inflection you impute? Do you know why? Because they UNDERSTAND the Hebrew, and therefore the intent
You know, we could have a conversation without the HATE speech on your side. WHy do you hate?
I do NOT know who the material you are to speak for most Jews. I am speaking about RELIGION and in particular how the God of the Tanach view homosexuality i.e. as an ABOMINATION.

Now that deceiver dares to speak for most Jew who are SECULAR and many are into other religions. In addition, YOU tell me why Chabad has an ENGLISH version of the Tanach if JEWS know Hebrew.

Do NOT dodge as I shall NOT give up on this question.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75267 Jul 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again. Citation please to "that the practice is ILLEGAL in most states".
The practice is illegal in NO states. The US Supreme Court stated so years ago in 2003. Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003). It was just confirmed again in Alabama within the last 30 days.
Eric---Citation please to "that the practice is ILLEGAL in most states".

HughBe---Wake-up and be aware of the land that you live in.

Eric---The practice is illegal in NO states.

HughBe--- Really? Explain the fight for gay RIGHTS? How can anyone be ARRESTED if they are not doing anything illegal.

Why don't ALL gay people get married if they want to? Explain the obstacles.

Are all of America BLACK?

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75268 Jul 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, homosexuality is legal in each and every state. Supreme Court said so in 2003. None of them are breaking the law.
Please answer my questions below.

If YOU do something that is NOT legal are you breaking the law of the US?
Is HOMOSEXUALITY legal in ALL states of the US?
What do YOU ,as a lawyer, call ALL those who break the laws of the land?
Are some lawbreakers better than others? List the better lawbreakers.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75269 Jul 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you are not going to respond. Then you'd have to admit that I was correct.
What makes gays better than paedophiles? Being gay is legal. That's what makes them better. It is legal in all 50 states. Supreme Court said so in 2003.
Eric---It is legal in all 50 states.

HughBe--- All I shall say is that Americans reading your words should note them carefully.

Explain the obstacles to gays getting married, given that it is legal everywhere.

Why are you saying that the Governors of many states are breaking the law?

Why are you saying that the police in many states are indulged in ILLEGAL activities when they seek to move against gays?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75270 Jul 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
What is "illegal in most states?"
Gay marriage is rapidly becoming legal in more and more states everyday. I believe we're up to 20. And it's just a matter of time for the rest.
The legal use of weed will be the next gay marriage, only 2 so far but watch out America!
HughBe----gays who have been PUBLICLY CELEBRATING being GAY for over 20 years in America and keep in mind that the practice is ILLEGAL in MOST states........

Former---What is "illegal in MOST states?"

HughBe--- Your own words below give the answer i.e. HOMOSEXUALITY.
I shall explain YOUR words to you.

Former---Gay marriage is rapidly BECOMING LEGAL in more and more states everyday. I believe we're up to 20. And it's just a matter of time for the rest.

HughBe--- I am suggesting to that brains that 20 states is approximately 40 % of states and so in MOST states homosexuality is illegal. Put it this way in 60% of the states it is ILLEGAL.

Former---The legal use of weed will be the next gay marriage, only 2 so far but watch out America!

HughBe--- America has been growing it for a LONG LONG time.

Bi
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75271 Jul 15, 2014
ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA)-
Salecia Johnson, 6, says she can't sleep because of what happened at her school last week in Milledgeville, Georgia.

"They HURT me. They JERKED my hands real fast," said Johnson.

Police said the kindergartner was ARRESTED and taken to POLICE headquarters after she became a THREAT to herself and others at Creekside Elementary School by CRYING, breaking glass and kicking over a shelf that hurt the school's principal.

"Every time she sees a police officer she thinks they are coming to get her," said Earnest Johnson, Salecia's father.

At a news conference on Friday in Atlanta, Salecia's family and supporters spoke out about what they call an injustice.

"We are not condoning bad behavior, but it baffles me how a CHILD can get put in HANDCUFFS and sent to an ADULT JAIL where she was detained for about an hour," said Marcus Coleman, with the National Action Network.

But police said Johnson was never placed behind bars and they say the officer followed proper procedures.

Still, Johnson's family and supporters said police and school policies need to be changed.

"Yes, she was in the squad room with other officers and it appeared that once common sense settled in, they tried to rectify their wrongs by dropping the charges," said Coleman. "We just want to make sure the initial confrontation doesn't happen to another child."

http://www.cbs46.com/story/17621353/six-year-...

What age was this CHILD? Is it 6?

What about the PSYCHOLOGICAL damage done to this child?

Recall, "Every time she sees a police officer she thinks they are coming to get her"

I call it REAL protection of children. Thinking aloud, the child could have been taken outside and away from others.

Was this 6-year-old so BIG and POWERFUL that no adult male teacher could hold her? What a massive MONSTER the 6 year old must have been so that there was a need for delta force?

Gone now.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75272 Jul 15, 2014
Why are gays not arrested for breaking the law?

A 6-year-old was ARRESTED because of her behaviour.

Power to the land of freedom and justice, for some.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75273 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric---Citation please to "that the practice is ILLEGAL in most states".
HughBe---Wake-up and be aware of the land that you live in.
Eric---The practice is illegal in NO states.
HughBe--- Really? Explain the fight for gay RIGHTS? How can anyone be ARRESTED if they are not doing anything illegal.
Why don't ALL gay people get married if they want to? Explain the obstacles.
Are all of America BLACK?
I picked this one to respond to.

You are f-----g nuts; or extremely dense.

It is not ****criminally**** illegal to practice homosexuality in the US in any state. That was confirmed just within the last month again. Being arrested is a question of what one police officer decides to do. I dare say if a police officer would arrest someone for practicing consensual homosexuality, the defendant will soon be owning the police officer's house.

The case in Alabama was a non-consenting case. Alabama has no law for man on man rape. So they dragged up an old law on sodomy. Didn't work and the perpetrator was convicted of a much lower offense.

Gay rights is now a ****civil**** law question. It is a question of homes, jobs, medical rights, rights of inheritance, etc. The demonstrations for the right to marry are demonstrations to change civil not criminal law. The demonstrators break no law by asking to change the law. First Amendment right to free speech. They flout nothing illegal. It's not even the civil disobedience practiced by the demonstrators for civil rights in the 1960's.

And each time the matter comes up in court lately, the rights of gay people to marry seem to be upheld.

It's time for you to fess up and admit you were wrong.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75274 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Why are gays not arrested for breaking the law?
You are f-----g dense.

Repeat after me. It is not illegal to be gay in the US, in any state. It is not illegal to perform consensual homosexual acts in the US in any state.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75275 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe--- It sounds like you have never walked in the woman's shoe. I am touched by the CARE and concern.
Thank you. I am all heart.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>HughBe--- Find out and if it is 7 and the MOM believes that her 9-year-old was safe then it would not be neglect. The experiences and circumstances of the poorer class is not the same as those more privileged.
Thank you Jesus for that.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>Former---In your mind, what is the comparison between the two issues?
HughBe--- Do the comparison. Help: If she did something wrong and was arrested why not GAYS who flout the law?
What law are the gays flouting?
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>Former---Then it's the same you as you and your wife publicly restating your wedding vows.
HughBe--- Get off the ganja. Marriage is NOT illegal. WE are talking about PROMOTING an ILLEGAL activity. Get it?
What illegal activity.

I will keep my ganja, thank you.

You should try it.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75276 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Your problem is poor language skills.
I'll take that as a yes on the sunburn.

Try and be more careful.

Sunscreen, hats etc.....
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75277 Jul 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe----gays who have been PUBLICLY CELEBRATING being GAY for over 20 years in America and keep in mind that the practice is ILLEGAL in MOST states........
Former---What is "illegal in MOST states?"
HughBe--- Your own words below give the answer i.e. HOMOSEXUALITY.
I shall explain YOUR words to you.
Former---Gay marriage is rapidly BECOMING LEGAL in more and more states everyday. I believe we're up to 20. And it's just a matter of time for the rest.
HughBe--- I am suggesting to that brains that 20 states is approximately 40 % of states and so in MOST states homosexuality is illegal. Put it this way in 60% of the states it is ILLEGAL.
Former---The legal use of weed will be the next gay marriage, only 2 so far but watch out America!
HughBe--- America has been growing it for a LONG LONG time.
Bi
You clearly don't understand the difference between gay sex and gay marriage.

Sex is sex while marriage is a legal status recognized by the IRS, the state and federal governments.

Pay attention. You seem to suffer from a poor education coupled with a lack of the ability to focus on the issues at hand.

It could be willful ignorance, but I don't think you're that smart.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#75278 Jul 15, 2014
Hey, speak of the devil. The one I went to is in PA.

__________

Chick-fil-A broke ground on its first Connecticut restaurant Tuesday.

The chicken fast food chain, most popular in southern states, plans to open first in Brookfield in September, followed by three other locations in Wallingford, Danbury and Enfield. Currently, the closest locations are in Paramus, New Jersey.

NBC CT
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75279 Jul 15, 2014
former res wrote:
Hey, speak of the devil. The one I went to is in PA.
__________
Chick-fil-A broke ground on its first Connecticut restaurant Tuesday.
The chicken fast food chain, most popular in southern states, plans to open first in Brookfield in September, followed by three other locations in Wallingford, Danbury and Enfield. Currently, the closest locations are in Paramus, New Jersey.
NBC CT
1. Don't get hungry on Sunday.

2. Don't get crushed in the mob waiting for free sandwiches for a year.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75280 Jul 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
You are f-----g dense.
Repeat after me. It is not illegal to be gay in the US, in any state. It is not illegal to perform consensual homosexual acts in the US in any state.
Let us reason together.

Do you feel that Thomas Jefferson an American Founding Father,LAWYER, and the PRINCIPAL author of the Declaration of Independence and the third President of the United States understood the Constitution?

If the American Constitution supported homosexuality, please explain why Jefferson in 1779
" wrote a law in VIRGINIA which contained a PUNISHMENT of CASTRATION for men who engage in SODOMY"

It is interesting to see that some who had nothing to do with the writing of the Constitution now by their utterances IMPLY that they have SUPERIOR understanding of the constitution than those who wrote it.

Such an approach explains what comes next.

When you read understand that we are talking about the SAME VIRGINIA that Jefferson wrote a law that PUNISHED men by CASTRATING them for homosexuality.

Read and see the superior understanding at work---

On February 7, 2014, the Virginia Senate voted 40-0 in favor of revising the crimes against nature statue to remove the ban on same-sex sexual relationships. On March 6, 2014, the Virginia House of Delegates voted 100-0 in favor of the bill. On April 7, the Governor submitted slightly different version of the bill. It was enacted by the Legislature on April 23, 2014. The law took effect upon passage"

Now, that wise man has been INSTRUCTED in the path of TRUTH and logic in the past but to no avail. So here I go again. The founding fathers KNEW and understood both the CONTENTS and the INTENTIONS of the Constitution far more than any Court in 2012 or 2014.

I would also add that ALL the Courts and Governments prior to the 1960s were NOT total IDIOTS and so we find that "sodomy was a FELONY IN EVERY state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor."

Finally, it is always instructive to see those living THOUSANDS or even HUNDREDS of years after an event coming up with a BETTER understanding of the events than those who were a part of the events.

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