Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Committing adultery is part of the natural sexual instinct, so I assume you are cool with that.

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I have not commented on morals whether adultery is right or wrong but now that you've raised the point - well, infidelity is an act of betrayal. It should not be done. Trust in a relationship is very important.

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Being over 6 feet tall is a deviation from the normal. So what?
No, it is not provided the innate instinct where sexual orientation is concerned is normal which should reflect man-woman attraction and not the deviant homosexual attraction.

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No, persecution complex is more a Jewish thing.
With Christians, it has everything to do with the sinner concept - the self-denigration idea which to me is so degrading.
I think it can traced to Jesus who said he'd come to save sinners and to suffer for humankind or something like that.
Which biblical prophesy are you referring to?
"Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matthew 5:11-12

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He didn't have to, they already knew them.
So, Christians have picked up those barbarisms from the Hebrew Bible - yes.

I have not read about Jesus preaching slavery, discrimination against women, murdering babies, cannibalism, blood sacrifices and other evils which are Hebrew specialties that they in turn picked up from the neighboring cultures.

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I have not commented on morals whether adultery is right or wrong but now that you've raised the point - well, infidelity is an act of betrayal. It should not be done. Trust in a relationship is very important.
How convenient.
"Instinct" only matters when it backs up your point of view.

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No, it is not provided the innate instinct where sexual orientation is concerned is normal which should reflect man-woman attraction and not the deviant homosexual attraction.
Yes, being over 6 feet tall is a deviation from the normal. Most people are shorter than that. Why does "normal" only matter when it comes to your particular bigotry? What about left handed people? Being left handed isn't normal. Christians used to kill them.

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LOL.
Straight people may turn explorative - rear entry, oral, kama sutra positions, etc, but the act will always be between man and woman.
Sex acts between men and women will always be between men and women?
Well, that's a shock.

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"Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. "Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matthew 5:11-12
This teaching is specific and more a warning about what to expect in the sense that it says what a believer in Jesus would have to face in those days when the faith was in its germination stage.

I associate Christianity more with self-denigration (the sinner complex, or the feeling that humans are worthless and polluted and need saving by turning to Christ).

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Yes, being over 6 feet tall is a deviation from the normal.
Does being over 6 feet tall impair one's critical faculties of cognition and does it affect one's sexual orientation?

I don't think so.

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Sex acts between men and women will always be between men and women?

Well, that's a shock.
A straight man will always be sexually attracted to a woman and not to a male.

This is the normal sexual instinct.

The deviant instinct is when a man is sexually turned on by other men or by animals or by 7 year old kids.

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What about left handed people? Being left handed isn't normal.
There are quite a few people who're ambidextrous without this trait damaging their intelligence or warping their sexual orientation.

The intelligent question to ask is whether left-handedness impairs one's cognitive faculties or if it affects one's sexual orientation. Obviously, there's no connection.

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How convenient.

"Instinct" only matters when it backs up your point of view.
I said that fidelity in a relationship is very important because if trust is eroded due to infidelity then the relationship crumbles and brings with it much acrimony and often results in lasting psychological and emotional distress.

If you wish to safeguard your psychological, emotional, physical and material well being and that of others with who you are connected to then please place a high premium on fidelity and trust in everything that you do whether in business, with friends, with nation or with spouse.

This is the normal behavioral instinct where relationships are concerned.

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No, persecution complex is more a Jewish thing.
With Christians, it has everything to do with the sinner concept - the self-denigration idea which to me is so degrading.
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Your clueless about the American political context.

Ever hear about the "War on Christmas", for example?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/fox-news-w...

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Like me, Former is an atheist. I doubt he believes in an objective moralty, but I'll let him speak for himself.
BTW - welcome to the thread. I should warn you, Hugh should only be taken in small doses (unless you're into masochism). The stupid oozes from his pores.
Or any of the incoherents here, for that matter.

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Your clueless about the American political context.

Ever hear about the "War on Christmas", for example?
LMAO

I was not referring to the US political context or to the War on Xmas.

I simply said that most Jews everywhere, especially the European Jews, have this magnified persecution complex/victimhood (which they play up to gain advantages or to draw sympathy).

Ex-Jew/Jew-baiter, Noam Chomsky, has said that Israel has a huge persecution complex.

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LMAO
I was not referring to the US political context or to the War on Xmas.
But we were..and we are the ones driving the conversation here not you
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<quoted text>I simply said that most Jews everywhere, especially the European Jews, have this magnified persecution complex/victimhood (which they play up to gain advantages or to draw sympathy).
Ex-Jew/Jew-baiter, Noam Chomsky, has said that Israel has a huge persecution complex.
Noam Chomsky speaks for the Jews like Glenn Beck speaks for the intelligent

Apu, you are stuck again in your head

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A straight man will always be sexually attracted to a woman and not to a male.
This is the normal sexual instinct.
Actually, most social scientists agree that gender is a social construction, and that the boundaries are more fluid that one might think...

Hughbe is a living example of this. I really doubt he even knows what he is.

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Noam Chomsky speaks for the Jews like Glenn Beck speaks for the intelligent
Noam Chomsky speaks against the Jews. LOL.

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Actually, most social scientists agree that gender is a social construction, and that the boundaries are more fluid that one might think...

Hughbe is a living example of this. I really doubt he even knows what he is.
There exist certain areas of overlap common to males and females in behavior but at the same time males usually have an unmistakeable stamp of masculinity while femininity is a female trait.

Both Hugh and you being passive homosexuals are more effeminate than masculine.

I still laugh when I remember that post in which Voluntarist said that he was surprised to learn that you were male since initially he thought he was interacting with a female.

Voluntarist was the one who called you a Nancy Boy.

Anyway, be happy and maintain regular oral/anal hygiene and limit your male lovers to 1 a week even if you happen to have a steady guy.

(winks)

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There exist certain areas of overlap common to males and females in behavior but at the same time males usually have an unmistakeable stamp of masculinity while femininity is a female trait.
Both Hugh and you being passive homosexuals are more effeminate than masculine.
I still laugh when I remember that post in which Voluntarist said that he was surprised to learn that you were male since initially he thought he was interacting with a female.
Voluntarist was the one who called you a Nancy Boy.
Anyway, be happy and maintain regular oral/anal hygiene and limit your male lovers to 1 a week even if you happen to have a steady guy.
(winks)
totally wrong

Masculinity/femininity is a total social construction. Didnt they make you take any Anthropology in that hovel of a school of yours?

So you are introducing Voluntarist as a litmus of intelligent thought? That made me chuckle.

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