Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72043 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#73003 May 5, 2014
SUPRACOSMIC & SUPRAMENTAL:

"I mean by the supracosmic reality the supreme state of consciousness-force that is above this and all manifestation, not bound by any, yet from whom all manifestation proceeds and all universe. The supramental and the supracosmic are not the same. If it were so there could be no supramental domain and no descent of the supramental principle into the material world - we would be brought back to the idea that the ultimate reality can only exist beyond and the universe - any universe - can only be an eternal half-truth or an unchanging illusion of ignorance."

- Sri Aurobindo

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#73005 May 5, 2014
ACTION-REACTION - SUBTLE ON GROSS & VICE VERSA

"If we regard the gradation of worlds or planes as a whole, we see them as a great connected complex movement; the higher precipitate their influences on the lower, the lower react to the higher and develop or manifest in themselves within their own formula something that corresponds to the superior power and its action. The material world has evolved life in obedience to a pressure from the vital plane, mind in obedience to a pressure from the mental plane. It is now trying to evolve supermind in obedience to a pressure from the supramental plane. In more detail, particular forces, movements, powers, beings of a higher world can throw themselves on the lower to establish appropriate and corresponding forms which will connect them with the material domain and, as it were, reproduce or project their action here. And each thing created here has, supporting it, subtler envelopes or forms of itself which make it subsist and connect it with forces acting from above. Man, for instance, has, besides his gross physical body, subtler sheaths or bodies by which he lives behind the veil in direct connection with supraphysical planes of consciousness and can be influenced by their powers, movements and beings. What takes place in life has always behind it pre-existent movements and forms in the occult vital planes; what takes place in mind presupposes pre-existent movements and forms in the occult mental planes. That is an aspect of things which becomes more and more evident, insistent and important, the more we progress in a dynamic yoga."

- Sri Aurobindo

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#73006 May 5, 2014
PRESSURE FROM ABOVE/CALL FROM BELOW:

"First, each plane, in spite of its connection with others above and below it, is yet a world in itself, with its own movements, forces, beings, types, forms existing as if for its and their own sake, under its own laws, for its own manifestation without apparent regard for the other members of the great series. Thus, if we regard the vital or the subtle physical plane, we see great ranges of it,(most of it), existing in themselves, without any relation with the material world and with no movement to affect or influence it, still less to precipitate a corresponding manifestation in the physical formula. At most we can say that the existence of anything in the vital, subtle physical or any other plane creates a possibility for a corresponding movement of manifestation in the physical world. But something more is needed to turn that static or latent possibility into a dynamic potentiality or an actual urge towards a material creation. That something may be a call from the material plane, e.g., some force or someone on the physical existence entering into touch with a supraphysical power or world or part of it and moved to bring it down into the earth-life. Or it may be an impulse in the vital or other plane itself, e.g., a vital being moved to extend his action towards the earth and establish there a kingdom for himself or the play of the forces for which he stands in his own domain. Or it may be a pressure from above; let us say, some supramental or mental power precipitating its formation from above and developing forms and movements on the vital level as a means of transit to its self-creation in the material world. Or it may be all these things acting together, in which case there is the greatest possibility of an effective creation."

- Sri Aurobindo

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#73007 May 5, 2014
SUPERMIND

"By the supermind is meant the full Truth-Consciousness of the Supreme Nature in the Manifestation in which there can be no place for the principle of division, error and ignorance; it is always a full light and knowledge superior to all mental substance or mental movement. Between the supermind and the human mind are a number of ranges, planes or layers of consciousness - one can regard it in various ways - in which the element or substance of mind and consequently its movements also become more and more illumined and powerful and wide. The overmind is the highest of these ranges; it is full of lights and powers; but from the point of view of what is above it, it is the line of the psychic's turning away from the complete and indivisible knowledge and its descent towards the Ignorance. For although it draws from the Truth, it is here that begins the separation of aspects of the Truth, the forces and their working out as if they were independent truths and this is a process that ends, as one descends to ordinary Mind, Life and Matter, in a complete division, fragmentation, separation from the indivisible Truth above. There is no longer the essential, total, perfectly harmonising and unifying knowledge, or rather knowledge for ever harmonious because for ever one, which is the character of supermind. In the supermind, mental divisions and oppositions cease, the problems created by our dividing and fragmenting mind disappear and Truth is seen as a luminous whole. In the overmind there is not yet the actual fall into Ignorance, but the first step is taken which will make the fall inevitable."

- Sri Aurobindo

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#73008 May 5, 2014
I see Joel is being censored again. LOL
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#73009 May 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
I see Joel is being censored again. LOL
I thought Joel was so insecure that he was judging himself. You can always tell because he forgets to switch back and there's a post by "Joel".

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#73012 May 5, 2014
THE PSYCHIC

"The psychic being in the old systems was spoken of as the Purusha in the heart (the secret heart - hridaye guhâyâm) which corresponds very well to what we define as the psychic being behind the heart centre. It was also this that went out from the body at death and persisted - which again corresponds to our teaching that it is this which goes out and returns, linking a new life to former life.

The psychic is not by definition, that part which is in direct touch with the supramental plane - although, once the connection with the supramental is made, it gives to it the readiest response. The psychic part of us is something that comes direct from the Self and is in touch with the Self. In its origin, it is the nucleus pregnant with supraphysical possibilities that supports this lower triple manifestation of mind, life and body. There is this subtle element in all living beings, but it stands hidden behind the ordinary consciousness, is not at first developed and, even when developed, is not always or often in the front; it expresses itself, so far as the imperfection of the instruments allows, by their means and under their limitations. It grows in the consciousness by subtle experience, gaining strength every time there is a higher movement in us, and, finally, by the accumulation of these deeper and higher movements, there is developed a psychic individuality - that which we call usually the psychic being. It is always this psychic being that is the real, though often the secret cause of man's turning to the spiritual life and his greatest help in it. It is therefore that which we have to bring from behind to the front in the yoga."

- Sri Aurobindo

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#73013 May 5, 2014
"In a mere vampire there is no psychic, for the vampire is a vital being - but in all humans (even if dominated by a vital being or vampire force) there is a psychic veiled behind it all."

- Sri Aurobindo

(HUGH, leave your male lover for now and come out of of hiding - your vampiristic forces and the foul smell accompanying it that made me gag on 2 occasions in the past will not be much of a disturbance).

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#73014 May 5, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>I thought Joel was so insecure that he was judging himself. You can always tell because he forgets to switch back and there's a post by "Joel".
The thing is, I bet he is clueless about the censorship because often the posts do show up on the orginal computer regardless....
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#73015 May 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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The thing is, I bet he is clueless about the censorship because often the posts do show up on the orginal computer regardless....
Since he posts the same drek on both threads, he probably never knows what he has done.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#73017 May 5, 2014
Supreme Court Allows Prayers at Town Meetings

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/nyregion/su...
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#73018 May 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Supreme Court Allows Prayers at Town Meetings
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/nyregion/su...
Seems consistent with past decisions to a large extent. And, it is important that the majority stated:

Justice Kennedy did suggest that some prayers may be unacceptable if offered consistently over time, including ones that “denigrate nonbelievers or religious minorities, threaten damnation or preach conversion.”
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73019 May 5, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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I think Former is sexually attracted to you.
Such is the power of my magnetism that even those who are not normal can detect it and are drawn to me.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73020 May 5, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Make some semi-intelligent posts.
The "I don't fear homosexuals" line is dumb and worn out.
Rosie---Make some semi-intelligent posts.

HughBe----Ok Rosie, start with this one-- YOU are an escapee from a mental institution.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73021 May 5, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
"In a mere vampire there is no psychic, for the vampire is a vital being - but in all humans (even if dominated by a vital being or vampire force) there is a psychic veiled behind it all."
- Sri Aurobindo
(HUGH, leave your male lover for now and come out of of hiding - your vampiristic forces and the foul smell accompanying it that made me gag on 2 occasions in the past will not be much of a disturbance).
I was unaware that you knew that I am a chicken farmer.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73022 May 5, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Seems consistent with past decisions to a large extent. And, it is important that the majority stated:
Justice Kennedy did suggest that some prayers may be unacceptable if offered consistently over time, including ones that “denigrate nonbelievers or religious minorities, threaten damnation or preach conversion.”
1. More importantly it is consistent with HISTORY and TRUTH.

2. "In 2008, after residents Susan Galloway and Linda Stephens complained, four of 12 meetings were opened by non-Christians, including a Jewish layman, a Wiccan priestess and the chairman of the local Baha'i congregation.

A town employee each month selected clerics or lay people by using a local published guide of churches. The guide did not include non-Christian denominations, however. The appeals court found that religious institutions in the town of just under 100,000 people are primarily Christian, and EVEN Galloway and Stephens(the complainants) testified they knew of NO non-Christian places of worship there"

3. What are the ethnic backgrounds of Galloway and Stephens? I believe that knowing such will be instructive.

4. "Galloway and Stephens testified they KNEW of NO non-Christian places of worship there" and this is instructive and tells every IDIOT that the town is a CHRISTIAN TOWN.

5. "From 1999 through 2007, and again from January 2009 through June 2010, every meeting was opened with a Christian-oriented invocation".

My question is, what type of prayers were offered from say 1960 to 1998? Were the Christian or non-Christian?

6. When did Galloway and Stephens become residents of the town?

7. The American people meaning the vast CHRISTIAN MAJORITY need to pay close attention to their politics and they need to ensure that ONLY those persons who represent their interest are elected to any office be it as a member of the Supreme Court or otherwise.

8---"Kagan was joined by Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor. Of the FOUR, THREE are Jewish and Sotomayor is Catholic."

9.--- Of the FOUR dissenting Judges 3 are non-Christians as the quote in #8 above says and that tells a story for Christians, in my opinion.

10.--- I believe that Christianity is under threat in the US and the Christians don't know it BUT they have the POWER to do something about it. VOTING POWER.

In my mind it is a threat by a VERY SMALL minority of persons and my words are not being informed from the current case but in things like X-mas and the DENIAL by some that America is and was founded on CHRISTIAN principles.

I have given proof of the Christian FOUNDATION of America in relatively recent times.

As a reminder the man who formed the FIRST law school in AMERICA said and taught his LAW students something like, there cannot be good civil law WITHOUT divine laws. He was a CHRISTIAN and a signatory to the DECLARATION and the CONSTITUTION.

Congress APPROVED of the use of BIBLES in SCHOOLS. Now bibles are NOT Hindu scriptures just to give an example.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73023 May 5, 2014
More on the SECULAR foundation of America.

1. Sam Adams one of the founding fathers of America in his capacity as Governor of the State of Massachusetts called his state to PRAYER 7 times. Now that is what I call SECULAR.

2. After the signing of the Constitution and the Declaration Massachusetts had a state RELIGION.

Listen and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

Do YOU think that James Wilson understood the American CONSTITUTION better than the Judges of the Supreme Court of today or vice versa?

You decided but here is a reminder or lesson about Mr. Wilson.

James Wilson was a signee of both the CONSTITUTION and the Declaration and an ORIGINAL Supreme Court JUDGE and the man who started the FIRST law school in America and he said ,"you CANNOT have good civil law that excludes DIVINE law"

DIVINE law----You are not to have sexual relations with a man in the same way you do with a woman; such a thing is detestable/abomination.

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Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#73024 May 5, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

7. The American people meaning the vast CHRISTIAN MAJORITY need to pay close attention to their politics and they need to ensure that ONLY those persons who represent their interest are elected to any office be it as a member of the Supreme Court or otherwise.
Hugh, do you realize that members of the Supreme Court are appointed?
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#73025 May 5, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Congress APPROVED of the use of BIBLES in SCHOOLS.
This is not true
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#73026 May 5, 2014
James Wilson a signee of both the Constitution and the Declaration and an ORIGINAL Supreme Court Judge and the man who started the FIRST law school in America said "you CANNOT have good civil law that excludes DIVINE law". This is what he TAUGHT his law students.

The FIRST bible printed in English in America was printed by CONGRESS and the original congressional document said that the BIBLE was " a neat/new addition of the Holy Scriptures for the USE of our SCHOOLS"
The BIBLE has a CONGRESSIONAL endorsement(APPROVAL).

When you read the above keep in mind that they are the same one who came up with the idea of separation of church and state.

PS: not sure if it is neat or new.

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