Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 71944 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#72991 May 4, 2014
Eric wrote:
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You know guys, I don't care. You seem to believe that being a homosexual or a bi-sexual is ultimately bad and to call someone such is an insult, even if it's untrue. Well guys, it's not. You can't insult me by calling me bi or gay because they are not insults. It's like calling me a person. Or, a member of the human race. I let it roll off for a few times, but I have to defend those who you deride. It's not an insult as far as I'm concerned and it doesn't bother me. So move on.
I hope that you're comfortable with your abnormal sexual orientation.

Be happy Eric and while indulging in habitual rear sex as is the wont of people of your kind please remember to keep your bum free from diseases otherwise you'll come down with HIV or some other life-threatening disease.

Now, are you off to the synagogue or to the nearest bar to meet others of your kind?

LOL

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#72992 May 4, 2014
HUGH

How's the police case going on?

Weren't you arrested last year for forcing yourself on a 13 year old boy?

(smiles)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#72994 May 4, 2014
SPACE-TIME WORM INVALIDATES CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE:

In Einstein's theory of relativity, time and space are wedded together in a 4-dimensional space-time continuum.

It is no longer possible to describe an object as occupying a particular point in space at a particular point in time.

A relativistic description of an object will show its spatial and temporal existence in its entirety, merged from beginning to end, wherever it is happening. For instance, a human being would be depicted as the entire progression from embryo to corpse. Such constructs are labeled "space-time worms."

And physics does not permit the space-time worm to say, "Now I am an adult and I used to be a child."

There is no passage of time or of a steady flow of events enacted in space - the whole sequence supposedly exists as one unit.

If we are space-time worms, we are just static configurations of matter, not evolving personalities with consciousness.

Defining human beings in that way invalidates our individual perception of past, present, and future and thus leads to the conclusion that such perceptions are unreal.

In a letter to Michael Besso, Albert Einstein wrote:

"You have to accept the idea that subjective time with its emphasis on the now has no objective meaning."

Ironically, when Besso died, Einstein, ironically, tried to console his widow by writing:

"Michael has preceded me a little in leaving this strange world. This is not important. For us who are convinced physicists, the distinction between past, present, and future is only an illusion, however persistent."

This is in effect a denial of consciousness, which entails the reality of the present experienced moment.

We experience our present form as real, whereas our infant form exists only in memory.

As conscious beings we can definitely experience that we do occupy a particular bodily form at a particular point in time.

Despite the fact that relativity theory converts a series of events into a single unified spatio-temporal entity, we actually experience in sequence different points in time.

What all this means is that every theory of universal origins built around relativity theory fails to explain our conscious experience of time, thus making these theories, as they stand, incomplete and unacceptable.

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#72997 May 5, 2014
Leaving aside the crude and baseless explanation of the rest of your post...
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
FURTHER NOTE ON THE COSMIC PLANES:
3) For non-yogis, one of the best way to visualize the cosmic planes is to keep in mind an onion with its layers wrapped around each other until at the core one arrives at "nothing" - the state of pure potentiality.
All the yogis, quasi-yogi, and wannabe yogis should provide with evidences any of their claims for the non-yogis, otherwise a mental asylum would be your next plane.

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#72998 May 5, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
FURTHER NOTE ON THE COSMIC PLANES:
3) For non-yogis, one of the best way to visualize the cosmic planes is to keep in mind an onion with its layers wrapped around each other until at the core one arrives at "nothing" - the state of pure potentiality.
Why would you choose one of the most stinkiest vegetables known to humankind as the basis for your visualization?

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#72999 May 5, 2014
DUAL MODES OF CONSCIOUSNESS TO BE MADE ONE:

"There are always two different consciousnesses in the human being, one outward in which he ordinarily lives, the other inward and concealed of which he knows nothing. When one does sadhana (yogic discipline), the inner consciousness begins to open and one is able to go inside and have all kinds of experiences there. As the sadhana progresses, one begins to live more and more in this inner being and the outer becomes more and more superficial. At first the inner consciousness seems to be the dream and the outer the waking reality. Afterwards the inner consciousness becomes the reality and the outer is felt by many as a dream or delusion, or else as something superficial and external. The inner consciousness begins to be a place of deep peace, light, bliss, love, power, closeness to the essence of the Self. One is then aware of two consciousnesses, the inner one and the outer which has to be changed into its counterpart and instrument - that also must become full of peace, light, power, union with the Self...."

- Sri Aurobindo, Letters on Yoga

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#73000 May 5, 2014
RANGES OF CONSCIOUSNESS

"Consciousness is usually identified with mind, but mental consciousness is only the human range which no more exhausts all the possible ranges of consciousness than human sight exhausts all the gradations of colour or human hearing all the gradations of sound - for there is much above or below that is to man invisible and inaudible. So there are ranges of consciousness above and below the human range, with which the normal human has no contact and they seem to it unconscious - supramental or overmental and submental ranges."

- Sri Aurobindo
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#73001 May 5, 2014
SUBJECTIVE/OBJECTIVE INFLUENCE:

"The gradations of consciousness are universal states not dependent on the outlook of the subjective personality; rather the outlook of the subjective personality is determined by the grade of consciousness in which it is organised according to its archetypal nature or its evolutionary stage."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73002 May 5, 2014
AWARENESS/ENERGY OF CONSCIOUSNESS:

"Consciousness is made up of two elements, awareness of self and things and forces and conscious-power. Awareness is the first thing necessary, you have to be aware of things in the right consciousness, in the right way, seeing them in their truth; but awareness by itself is not enough. There must be a Will and a Force that make the consciousness effective."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73003 May 5, 2014
SUPRACOSMIC & SUPRAMENTAL:

"I mean by the supracosmic reality the supreme state of consciousness-force that is above this and all manifestation, not bound by any, yet from whom all manifestation proceeds and all universe. The supramental and the supracosmic are not the same. If it were so there could be no supramental domain and no descent of the supramental principle into the material world - we would be brought back to the idea that the ultimate reality can only exist beyond and the universe - any universe - can only be an eternal half-truth or an unchanging illusion of ignorance."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73005 May 5, 2014
ACTION-REACTION - SUBTLE ON GROSS & VICE VERSA

"If we regard the gradation of worlds or planes as a whole, we see them as a great connected complex movement; the higher precipitate their influences on the lower, the lower react to the higher and develop or manifest in themselves within their own formula something that corresponds to the superior power and its action. The material world has evolved life in obedience to a pressure from the vital plane, mind in obedience to a pressure from the mental plane. It is now trying to evolve supermind in obedience to a pressure from the supramental plane. In more detail, particular forces, movements, powers, beings of a higher world can throw themselves on the lower to establish appropriate and corresponding forms which will connect them with the material domain and, as it were, reproduce or project their action here. And each thing created here has, supporting it, subtler envelopes or forms of itself which make it subsist and connect it with forces acting from above. Man, for instance, has, besides his gross physical body, subtler sheaths or bodies by which he lives behind the veil in direct connection with supraphysical planes of consciousness and can be influenced by their powers, movements and beings. What takes place in life has always behind it pre-existent movements and forms in the occult vital planes; what takes place in mind presupposes pre-existent movements and forms in the occult mental planes. That is an aspect of things which becomes more and more evident, insistent and important, the more we progress in a dynamic yoga."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73006 May 5, 2014
PRESSURE FROM ABOVE/CALL FROM BELOW:

"First, each plane, in spite of its connection with others above and below it, is yet a world in itself, with its own movements, forces, beings, types, forms existing as if for its and their own sake, under its own laws, for its own manifestation without apparent regard for the other members of the great series. Thus, if we regard the vital or the subtle physical plane, we see great ranges of it,(most of it), existing in themselves, without any relation with the material world and with no movement to affect or influence it, still less to precipitate a corresponding manifestation in the physical formula. At most we can say that the existence of anything in the vital, subtle physical or any other plane creates a possibility for a corresponding movement of manifestation in the physical world. But something more is needed to turn that static or latent possibility into a dynamic potentiality or an actual urge towards a material creation. That something may be a call from the material plane, e.g., some force or someone on the physical existence entering into touch with a supraphysical power or world or part of it and moved to bring it down into the earth-life. Or it may be an impulse in the vital or other plane itself, e.g., a vital being moved to extend his action towards the earth and establish there a kingdom for himself or the play of the forces for which he stands in his own domain. Or it may be a pressure from above; let us say, some supramental or mental power precipitating its formation from above and developing forms and movements on the vital level as a means of transit to its self-creation in the material world. Or it may be all these things acting together, in which case there is the greatest possibility of an effective creation."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73007 May 5, 2014
SUPERMIND

"By the supermind is meant the full Truth-Consciousness of the Supreme Nature in the Manifestation in which there can be no place for the principle of division, error and ignorance; it is always a full light and knowledge superior to all mental substance or mental movement. Between the supermind and the human mind are a number of ranges, planes or layers of consciousness - one can regard it in various ways - in which the element or substance of mind and consequently its movements also become more and more illumined and powerful and wide. The overmind is the highest of these ranges; it is full of lights and powers; but from the point of view of what is above it, it is the line of the psychic's turning away from the complete and indivisible knowledge and its descent towards the Ignorance. For although it draws from the Truth, it is here that begins the separation of aspects of the Truth, the forces and their working out as if they were independent truths and this is a process that ends, as one descends to ordinary Mind, Life and Matter, in a complete division, fragmentation, separation from the indivisible Truth above. There is no longer the essential, total, perfectly harmonising and unifying knowledge, or rather knowledge for ever harmonious because for ever one, which is the character of supermind. In the supermind, mental divisions and oppositions cease, the problems created by our dividing and fragmenting mind disappear and Truth is seen as a luminous whole. In the overmind there is not yet the actual fall into Ignorance, but the first step is taken which will make the fall inevitable."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73008 May 5, 2014
I see Joel is being censored again. LOL
Eric

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#73009 May 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
I see Joel is being censored again. LOL
I thought Joel was so insecure that he was judging himself. You can always tell because he forgets to switch back and there's a post by "Joel".

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#73012 May 5, 2014
THE PSYCHIC

"The psychic being in the old systems was spoken of as the Purusha in the heart (the secret heart - hridaye guhym) which corresponds very well to what we define as the psychic being behind the heart centre. It was also this that went out from the body at death and persisted - which again corresponds to our teaching that it is this which goes out and returns, linking a new life to former life.

The psychic is not by definition, that part which is in direct touch with the supramental plane - although, once the connection with the supramental is made, it gives to it the readiest response. The psychic part of us is something that comes direct from the Self and is in touch with the Self. In its origin, it is the nucleus pregnant with supraphysical possibilities that supports this lower triple manifestation of mind, life and body. There is this subtle element in all living beings, but it stands hidden behind the ordinary consciousness, is not at first developed and, even when developed, is not always or often in the front; it expresses itself, so far as the imperfection of the instruments allows, by their means and under their limitations. It grows in the consciousness by subtle experience, gaining strength every time there is a higher movement in us, and, finally, by the accumulation of these deeper and higher movements, there is developed a psychic individuality - that which we call usually the psychic being. It is always this psychic being that is the real, though often the secret cause of man's turning to the spiritual life and his greatest help in it. It is therefore that which we have to bring from behind to the front in the yoga."

- Sri Aurobindo

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#73013 May 5, 2014
"In a mere vampire there is no psychic, for the vampire is a vital being - but in all humans (even if dominated by a vital being or vampire force) there is a psychic veiled behind it all."

- Sri Aurobindo

(HUGH, leave your male lover for now and come out of of hiding - your vampiristic forces and the foul smell accompanying it that made me gag on 2 occasions in the past will not be much of a disturbance).

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#73014 May 5, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>I thought Joel was so insecure that he was judging himself. You can always tell because he forgets to switch back and there's a post by "Joel".
The thing is, I bet he is clueless about the censorship because often the posts do show up on the orginal computer regardless....
Eric

Arlington Heights, IL

#73015 May 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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The thing is, I bet he is clueless about the censorship because often the posts do show up on the orginal computer regardless....
Since he posts the same drek on both threads, he probably never knows what he has done.

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#73017 May 5, 2014
Supreme Court Allows Prayers at Town Meetings

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/nyregion/su...

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