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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71435 Apr 11, 2014
Religion is realization. Any teaching that falls short of realization is flawed. By realization is meant self-realization by which the lower self merges with the power, light, peace, knowledge and bliss of the higher self. Self realization is the first decisive step on the path to the highest realization which is the union in consciousness and force of the individualized higher self with the absolute.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71436 Apr 11, 2014
Neither belief nor ritual nor science can lead to self-realization.

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#71437 Apr 11, 2014
Self-realization is the supreme aim of human life by which every unknown becomes known and due to which perfection of the unregenerate aspects of being is achieved.

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#71438 Apr 11, 2014
While a scientist inferentially studies say the phenomenon of gravitation which to the yogi is merely an effect of deeper causes at work in matter, the yogi busies himself with identifying his consciousness-force field with the whole of cosmic existence and thereby gains a direct perception of the objects of investigation, acquires the ability to manipulate them at will and becomes perfect by at last uniting in consciousness-force with the supracosmic source from which everything has arisen by an act of self-manifestation.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71439 Apr 11, 2014
BUDDHA, AUROBINDO, NIRVANA & THE SUPRAMENTAL YOGA

Buddha was a vast improvement in intellect, yogic realization and morals over the barbaric prophets of Tanach, NT, Quran but he too stopped short of Nirvana and preached as a last resort escapism as the way to liberation.

In modern times, Sri Aurobindo, with his Jewish spiritual collaborator, the Mother, pioneered what is known as the supramental yoga which is a union in consciousness-force of the individual's self with those ranges of consciousness-force that far exceed the highest intuitional degree of the mental range of consciousness. Besides, he advocated a perfection of being by bringing about through an act of will the dynamic descent of the supramental consciousness into the planes of the mind, vital, physical and subconscious as a way of perfecting these instrumental parts of being by drawing them out of their repetitive habits centered around unregenerate tendencies that finally result in disease and death. Aurobindo was successful in attaining to the supramental state of consciousness but fell short of supramentalizing his being and as such had to leave his body in an act of willed-death.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71440 Apr 11, 2014
Higher than even the planes of the supramental consciousness are the rarefied planes of the bliss consciousness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71441 Apr 11, 2014
BRINGING THE HIGHER PLANES INTO THE BODY

The highest plane of consciousness-force that can be accommodated in the unregenerate forced fields of the body is the plane of the illumined consciousness whose station is the force field in the pineal.

The higher planes of consciousness-force being too potent in nature to be accommodated in the feeble human body are stationed in the force dimensions above the head and can be accessed only through a superlative yogic union in consciousness-force that takes the indwelling self out of the body to unite with them in the planes of consciousness-force above the head.

After uniting with the superior plane in consciousness-force the most dangerous part is to cause these alien planes of consciousness-force to descend into the body which initially rejects the incoming superior planes of consciousness-force that lie above the head. The initial reaction of the body's force fields to this powerful descent from above is violent rejection and an unsettling of the nervous system that, if the yogi is not alert, may lead to disease, blindness, paralysis, insanity and death.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71442 Apr 11, 2014
Beyond matter, which is evident to the senses and to inferential methods of investigation, there exist higher ranges of superior cosmic phenomena with their concomitant degrees of consciousness that can only be accessed through the yogic discipline.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71443 Apr 11, 2014
I am addicted to Yoga and Math.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71444 Apr 11, 2014
While MATH can only take me in an intellectual manner into the labyrinths of numerical gymnastics that describe the repetitive behavior of surface material phenomena that we call the laws of nature, YOGA can take me via the medium of the activated consciousness in and through the natural laws far beyond matter into those realms of being where matter and its mathematical laws appear a faint shadow of the absolute self in objectivization.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71445 Apr 11, 2014
Where's the poorly educated, childless fa-ggot who works in menial jobs?

LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71447 Apr 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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he does reply - by posting a third person monologue on a subject.

Thats why I just threw him a bone (pun intended)

At least he keeps coming back for more. Krishnas bless him. MUQ, OTOH, who posts equally silly stuff, limits his reply to a single reply per day, as if that somehow makes things less abstruse.
Hello BRAINLESS PhD in SCIENCE (of all subjects for an ass to undertake a PhD in !),

1 - 1 =?

You should be capable of getting this equation correct, right?

LOL

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71448 Apr 11, 2014
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I know a lesbian couple together over 25 years with a really cool daughter who's finishing grad school.(I believe they had an anonymous sperm donor and the one with them with better child bearing hips bore the child.) Lovely family!
What would be the deeper psychological implications for a child who's reared in a lesbian household?
justin

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#71449 Apr 11, 2014
Are they the ones that eat babies?
KyleR

San Jose, CA

#71450 Apr 11, 2014
Yes

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71451 Apr 11, 2014
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If the 3-4% of the population is gay, how does this threaten the species.
What if 90 % of the male population is gay?

Would it threaten the survival of the species or bode well for genetic diversity within a species?

My point is that homosexuality is ABNORMAL since it goes against the laws of nature which is based on attraction of unlikes which is visible even at the atomic level - unlike electric charges attract and unlike magnetic poles attract.

So, similarly, in keeping with the natural law of unlikes attracting, shouldn't man should be sexually attracted to woman?

Homosexuality is also abnormal since it has zero procreative potential because male gays cannot indulge in sexual intercourse with women to produce offspring.

I understand your extra-strong defense of homosexuality since you too are gay - yes, you're evidently very gay in an effeminate sort of way, the passive gay, if you please.

I consider you abnormal in your sexual instincts but I don't condemn and wish you the best.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71452 Apr 11, 2014
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Show me someone who sees things in black and white and I'll show you an idiot.
You're a bigger idiot to make such a sweeping generalization but then considering your poor educational qualifications and in view of the menial jobs that you have worked at and are working, it comes as no surprise.

In life, there are certain facts that're of a black and white nature.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#71453 Apr 11, 2014
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BTW, I think many Christians (and others) are closet atheists. Some folks just don't want to upset their families, rock the boat.

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Neither being atheist nor being a believer is a sign of superiority since each stand comes with its innate baggage of nonsense and plus points.

The reality is quite different and beyond both these diametrical views.
former res

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#71454 Apr 12, 2014
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In the US, there are well intentioned people who advocate against circumcision. In Europe the intent isnt that pure.
Anti-kosher slaughter: You have heard the blather from Apu about how kosher slaughter supposedly isnt humane. Jews sincerely believe it is humane, or course, since we also have prohibitions against cruelty against animals. In Europe there is a large movement against Kosher type slaughtering,(they favor stunning rather than slicing the jugular) but really it is a movement against Muslims, who do a similar type of slaughter, and Jews are caught, perhaps inadvertently, in the same net.
Personally, I think an ear pierce is an abomination. Its all a matter of perspective. Which is why the argument of mutilation is so hollow, IMO. If there was a medical reason against, then that would be a different story. But there is not, apparently.
The whole anti kosher slaughter thing is news to me. Guess that was in a few of Joel's posts that I skipped - there are SO many! Interesting though.

From what I hear when one stops wearing a "stud" the ear hole closes up again. Faster I think when one is younger.

I've never heard a medical reason against circ - just the sensitivity factor. Like removing the protective hood over the sensitive lady part.(The one Joel has never and probably will never get to meet.)

Good Morning!
former res

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#71455 Apr 12, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I have no idea why non-Jews bother to circumcise. We do it for religious reasons, of course, not for the alleged health benefits.
Reminds me of the people who advocate eating organic fruit because it is more nutritious (sometimes it is, sometimes it isnt). I eat organic (when I can) because I know the production is more earth friendly, and the nutritional benefit is a side effect. But people get hung up on the unintended parameters.
You must be rich!

At our Stop and Shop the organic produce is pricey!

Oy!:))

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