Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69703 Mar 18, 2014
former res wrote:
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Joel failed to respond to series of my posts from yesterday.

I have accepted his unconditional surrender.
Hi genius.

I just said that both Frijoles and you are smarter than me.



I am way too low down the intelligence scale when compared to both of you.

Ok?

I hope that both of you are happy now.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#69704 Mar 18, 2014
former res wrote:
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One of the best posts ever.
This is why I picture Joel in the corner quietly molting.
Your "Blind faith in a book. Sounds very familiar." wasn't bad.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69705 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi genius.
I just said that both Frijoles and you are smarter than me.
I am way too low down the intelligence scale when compared to both of you.
Ok?
I hope that both of you are happy now.
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were stupid like a fox.

But that would give you too much credit.

Not sure if your admission has the ring of truth.

Prove it by trying to say something smart and failing yet again.

Warm wishes and a warm avuncular hug form over here to over there.

But no communal showering, boxers or no boxers. Non-negotiable.

:))
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69706 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi genius.
Oh and please address me as "MR. Genius" going forward.

Thank you so much.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69707 Mar 18, 2014
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Your "Blind faith in a book. Sounds very familiar." wasn't bad.
I'm gratified.

Tough crowd.
Moses Kestenbaum ODA

Brooklyn, NY

#69708 Mar 18, 2014
Israel is the most democratic country in the world, certainly in the Middle East. You can talk,write, organize and scream all day what ever your want. Just don't mess with security of Israel or your fcked

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69709 Mar 18, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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You need not worry about me
Honestly, at times, I wonder how at your advanced age you manage all by yourself.

I am glad to know that all is well with you. More power to you.

I live alone in this huge apartment but unlike you I can't say that all is well with me in view of the fact that I've never known peace, happiness and love in my entire life.

Keep posting.

Take care.

Best Regards.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69710 Mar 18, 2014
Moses Kestenbaum ODA wrote:
Israel is the most democratic country in the world, certainly in the Middle East. You can talk,write, organize and scream all day what ever your want. Just don't mess with security of Israel or your fcked
Hows the driving lessons going?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69711 Mar 18, 2014
former res wrote:
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Obviously I'm the one who put the "Agree" green check mark on this post!
I figured. Surely it wasnt the Indian pansy or the Jamaican homophobe.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#69712 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi genius.
I just said that both Frijoles and you are smarter than me.
I am way too low down the intelligence scale when compared to both of you.
Ok?
I hope that both of you are happy now.
Watching you beg for acknowledgement has to be among the most pathetic of things I have ever witnessed here.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69713 Mar 18, 2014
Today afternoon, while I was sitting in the garden below, an elderly man, around 70 years or so, who lives in the same apartment block, came up to me and as he inquired about my health began caressing my head for a few minutes in such a grandfatherly fashion while looking at me with such a loving gaze that I felt like a baby being comforted and was emotional. My dad did not care much for me but my mom cared for me a lot. She died a distressed person because of my late dad harassing her a lot due to his flings with his girl friends and his heavy drinking habit aside from physically abusing her. The old man and his sons have business interests in India and in Africa. He was also an eminent jurist in earlier days. Anyway, I'll eat dinner soon and read a book on the Kashmir insurgency that I've half finished.

Bye.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69714 Mar 18, 2014
Infinity - Infinity = Infinity !!!!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69715 Mar 18, 2014
former res wrote:
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thank you my shiny friend
I think you would do the same for me if push came to shove
you might be a good person under all that homophobia - just not to gays or Jews
HughBe---Stop Flocing with Joel. I mean that.

Former res--When he stops doing the same.
An eye for an eye and all that.
But it's cute that you're so protective of your special fella.
Cute couple. If clueless.

HughBe--- My dear always a sweetie, let me explain somethings to you. I do not believe in cruelty and that is what I saw in Frijoles' words. Now some time ago there was a poster who repeatedly called Frijoles FREE HOLE and I stood up for Frijoles and rebuked the poster.

Meditate upon these things.

Former---thank you my shiny friend

HughBe--- Jet-black would add clarity.

Former---I THINK you would do the same for me if push came to shove

HughBe--- It is good to see that you have acquired a new skill i.e. thinking.

Former-----you might be a good person under all that homophobia - just not to gays or Jews

HughBe--- You speak as a rabbi, in my opinion. Let us look at your absurd and nasty comment about Jews.

In this very post, I stood up for a JEW i.e. Joel. So that makes your comment sheer waste.

In this very post also, I spoke about standing up for another JEW i.e. Frijoles and so once again your comment about me being not a good person to Jews is sheer waste and EVIL.

Besides all of this, explain to me why a person like YOU who do NOT have Jewish ancestry is standing up for your IMAGINED persecution of Jews by me a person with JEWISH ancestry and one who is not ashamed of that ancestry.

As I have said countless times before, by bloodline comes from 2 sources JEWISH and African and I would never have been here without both. In addition, I am NOT against anyone because of their race or religion and that includes the race of Jews, the religion called Judaism and its members Judahists, Muslims, Irish, English, Hindus you name it.

Having said all of that, let me be clear I am against LIES and DECEPTION. So if anyone or country is guilty of either LIES or DECEPTION then understand that I am not on their side. It does not mean HATE it means that I shall NOT be a LIAR and DECEIVER like them and I shall call a spade a spade.

Finally boy, I have JEWISH BLOOD relatives, so OF with your nastiness and LIES. In addition, I do NOT HATE homosexuals. Now, with all sincerity I believe that Frijoles is at least a bisexual and the same applies to you and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69716 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL wrote:
HUGH: Beautifully done.
JOEL: So, in your hallowed view, creation from nothing is a fact? Keep hallucinating.
BTW, can you give me one example of creation from nothing in nature/life?
As for mystical substance, some occultists and even a renowned physicist like Max Planck say/said that consciousness is the mystical substance that underlies and interpenetrates energy/matter which is why they argue universe is fine tuned and which is why sentience arose in the universe.
After a lot of thought backed by yogic experience and after perusing plenty of scientific literature on the subject I am these days more likely to think that consciousness gradually develops out of material activity but I have serious doubts....
No scientist can pinpoint the exact mechanism of how consciousness develops in say the human brain nor can consciousness be replicated in a material system in the lab.
What if a well preserved, fully formed human brain of a dead person is subjected to all the right EM frequencies (typical to actual brain activity) transferred into it via a set of electrodes will the brain in such an experiment manifest sentience? I don't think so.
By using external electrical impulses in the gamma range (which is the normal frequency at which a human brain works when the person is alive) can a corpse be revived? I don't think so.
Using electrical impulses can a person in a comatose state be revived? I don't think so.
So, well, all talk of consciousness being a product of brain activity collapses in these circumstances as detailed above.
That consciousness is affected by psychoactive drudge or by surgery to various parts of the brain is only to be expected since brain in the mystical view is simply an instrument to transmit consciousness. This position is also held by a few prominent scientists.
So, the fundamental question - what is consciousness remains unanswered.
HUGH: Beautifully done.

JOEL: So, in your hallowed view, creation from nothing is a fact? Keep hallucinating.

Hugh--- Yes and there is no hallucination involved.

Joel---BTW, can you give me one example of creation from nothing in nature/life?

Hugh--- I was hoping that although your view is hollowed you would have been capable of answering that question for yourself. Since you mock the concept and reality of creation from nothing please explain to me source of the forces that you believe in. Put it this way, did the forces come from nothing or did they come from something?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69717 Mar 18, 2014
crack the whip wrote:
<quoted text>now tell me people. is this the comments of a godly man or just another fake? faker
Frijoles---Are you a satanist?I use my sht for perfume. Maybe you should reconsider your diet.

Crack the whip----now tell me people. is this the comments of a godly man or just another fake? faker

HughBe--- A valid and an excellent question, crack the whip.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69718 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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.....I can't say that all is well with me in view of the fact that I've never known peace, happiness and love in my entire life.....
I sincerely hope that you take steps each and every day of your life to attempt to meet these unfulfilled needs and wants.

Let us discuss the specific plan for today or tomorrow. Baby steps.

What do you say?
aegege

Tˇrshavn, Faroe Islands

#69719 Mar 18, 2014
Throw the isrealies out from Europe, ban christianity and fight against socialism. Then humanity will acheive freedom.

Jews (isrealites)
Christianity
And government.

They are the biggest enemies the west has for unlimited prosperity, peace and liberty.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69721 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Honestly, at times, I wonder how at your advanced age you manage all by yourself.
I am glad to know that all is well with you. More power to you.
I live alone in this huge apartment but unlike you I can't say that all is well with me in view of the fact that I've never known peace, happiness and love in my entire life.
Keep posting.
Take care.
Best Regards.
rabbee: and i just can't wait, for when i begin a family at the young age of 130. because HaShem G-D, promised for me and my assigned mate as chaooah a son. so nothing G-D would have me do here in TheTorah, could surprise me though possibly astonished the way G-D has it done. and if G-D commands me to walk on water, no problem i am ready for that too. so it is not by my power i am operating on, but that which is given to me from G-D. and since G-D does not lie, i must sadly live for 930 years according to scripture here in IT.

and as long as this world rejects being here in this physical story from G-D. then join the anti-peace club, where nobody shall have any real peace. since peace begins in the mind with G-D. though i am at peace with G-D, there is this hell and death all around me. so how can anyone ever have true happiness, in this world making everyone else their unhappy way trying to be happy.

as even moments of happiness, are delusional rare and fleeting. the most i can expect is to be at peace with myself, for not being part of this world against any real peace here in TheTorah again. in this world that has found normalcy in an acceptable level of collateral damage of hell and death.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69722 Mar 18, 2014
this world sure knows, how to make this story again from G-D. a lot worse than it really needs to be, here in TheTorah just really again.

as your delusions of not being here, in The Physical Story from G-D again. is defiantly going to result in G-D, giving us all hell for lying.

when G-D said, you shall not bear false witness here in TheTorah. THEY, were not joking around.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#69723 Mar 18, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
Tell me this: The Jews anticipate a spiritual-political figure? Christians believe the Christ saved his people mainly from the spiritual oppressors of sin and death.. The jews are still awaiting the messiah, christians believe that jesus of nazareth was the messiah.. So are nation believe's he has came, the jewish are still awaiting? Gnostics taught that jesus, was not really a physical person, since the body is evil, and that the old testament god, yahweh, who had created bodies and matter. Was really the devil.. The word god means infinite goodness, so nothing evil can come from it.. I personaly believe satan created what we see with our eyes.. But im no pro, im a young pup on search for the truth, thats why I enjoy this thread.. Love all, and peace to all.
The God of Israel is the living God and she will conquer and transcend death. Jesus is one of many dead gods. He's been dead for 2000 years. The true Messiah of the OT is alive on earth today and should make an appearance this year. Everything comes from God, evil and good. God created Satan (Adam). Our bodies are prone to the sins of the flesh. Spirits cannot sin. The final proof will be when God comes back from heaven with the entire host of heaven. Earth is called the "land of the living" and the God of Israel is alive.

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