Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#68488 Feb 27, 2014
CAUSALITY-1:

Stored impressions of past karma that supposedly manifest in future as effects of past karma is nonsense.

Causality - this "as you sow, so shall you reap: dictum - at the human level does not act in this way, or at least there's not an iota of evidence to support the claim that it acts in a tit for tat manner.

In what form are these impressions of past karma stored?

As mental imprints?

Where?

In the brain-generated electrical field as wave patterns?

How do they affect us in future?

Do they take harm us or reward us depending on the nature of the stored mental impressions?

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#68489 Feb 27, 2014
CAUSALITY-2:

I have yet to see any of the ill-effects of bad karma in politicians or in the rich and powerful industrialists or in the lives of famous film stars who make the laws and control the law-enforcing agencies and who have indulged in and are indulging in every possible perversion and who're yet as hale and hearty and as powerful and as invincible as ever.

Where is the tit for tat result of the law of karma or where is the devolution in consciousness in such criminals?

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#68490 Feb 27, 2014
CAUSALITY-3:

Talking about karma at work in the afterlife or in future births is more nonsense when it cannot be shown that anything concrete, like say something like this mumbo jumbo thing called the soul, survives the death of the body, or if there exists an afterlife.

One's heredity and environmental influences and the way one makes best use of these determine success or defeat in life while innate resilience see us through the ups and downs.

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#68491 Feb 27, 2014
OPTIONS

The option of leading the life of a criminal is open to all.

One may turn into a criminal and get away with any crime, even murder and treason, if one has powerful enough contacts with corrupt politicians/corrupt law enforcing agencies for which one has to have plenty of funds to bribe them.

If one can do all of this then there's no reason why the criminal should not lead a healthy and a safe life like ordinary law-abiding citizens.

This so-called law of karma cannot touch such a criminal.

The law of karma as explained by mumbo ,jumbo religious books does not exist as a tit for tat reaction which is all mumbo jumbo.

Karma is action and all about using one's available resources and knowing how to interact with fellow human beings and with the environment.

Karma is not a "as you sow so shall you reap" kind of mechanism that's ingrained in nature.

However, the best option is to led the life of a mature and a responsible social animal so as not to create conflicts with people and environment.

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#68492 Feb 27, 2014
SUSTAINABLE LIVING

Man being a social animal desires good for himself and has strong survival instincts.

He interacts with other members of his species in a variety of ways.

Conflict-resolution is a core part of a social animal's nature.

Superstitious notions of past karma affecting our health, peace, happiness, prosperity and relationships in adverse or in beneficial ways are mumbo jumbo since causation does not work in this rigid manner.

A bigger nonsense is to believe that we should progressively evolve by the process of becoming into some sort of idealistic state or of some G-d ruling over us (who will reward or punish us in keeping with the sum total of our karma on earth or in some nebulous afterlife).

So, the best option before man is to make best use of his personal resources and to maximize harmonious interaction with others so as to live and let live.

We should do unto others as we would like others to do unto us.

Let the band of social animals make better progress.

Ideas of karma as explained in religious texts, of past births affecting us in this life or of God punishing/rewarding us in this life or in the afterlife or of good/bad karma helping or harming us in commensurate degree are fictional account that mislead us and so should be relegated to the rubbish bin of rejects.

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#68494 Feb 27, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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After destroying the mumbo jumbo teachings/practices of Judaism, I will begin with Quran.
Stay tuned.
It doesn't take days to "destroy" those teachings or books. You must have some mental disfunction.

Those mediocre books have no ground to stand on.

If you are a bit intelligent with a decent amount of intuition, you wouldn't waste your time for useless things.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#68496 Feb 27, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe---I believe that gay unions should NOT be called marriage as marriage is between a man and a woman.
Frijoles---You "believe" that but luckily for us in the States many of us dont believe that. Including the courts.
HughBe--- Explain your good fortune to me. How would a different title that prevents confusion take away from the union?
Frijoles---Which is ironic considering your "belief" that we are a Christian nation.
HughBe--- Foundation is Christian but there is nothing Christian about homosexuality. That practice fits in well with a religion that you know quite well.
The latest court ruling by a FEDERAL court, was based on CONSTITUTIONAL principles, as all court rulings from the federal court are. The US Constitution, in case you need to be reminded, was authored by the FOUNDING FATHERS.

So the questions is, holding your assumption that America has a Christian FOUNDATION, does that mean that the Christian FOUNDERS accepted equal marriage rights for Homosexuals, as the court just proclaimed......OR....

...Perhaps the country, whose basis for law in the US Constitution, created by the FOUNDERS, wasnt founded on Christian principles after all?

which one is it?

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#68497 Feb 27, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Moses, David, Elijah and other insane mass murdering criminals from the Hebrew Bible are on par with psychopaths like Hitler, Stalin and Mao.
Are you really make this comparison? LOL

Hitler, Stalin and Mao are historical figures and we have wide evidences of their existence, while for Elijah, David and Moses we have nothing. The Bible is not considered a historical book. The latters' existence is questionable. Take Moses for instance, we don't have any proof of his existence nor of the ten sores etc.

Such a comparison is laughable.

Grew up, son.

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#68498 Feb 27, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe---I believe that gay unions should NOT be called marriage as marriage is between a man and a woman.
Frijoles---You "believe" that but luckily for us in the States many of us dont believe that. Including the courts.
HughBe--- Explain your good fortune to me. How would a different title that prevents confusion take away from the union?
Frijoles---Which is ironic considering your "belief" that we are a Christian nation.
HughBe--- Foundation is Christian but there is nothing Christian about homosexuality. That practice fits in well with a religion that you know quite well.
Here is the text of the FEDERAL court decision

Its fascinating reading - I encourage you to read it as it frames why the issue is really one of equality

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politic...

"The issue before this court is whether Texas's current definition of marriage is permissible under the United States Constitution"......
former res

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#68499 Feb 27, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Here is the text of the FEDERAL court decision
Its fascinating reading - I encourage you to read it as it frames why the issue is really one of equality
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politic...
"The issue before this court is whether Texas's current definition of marriage is permissible under the United States Constitution"......
Thanks god we still have a few adults minding the store.

All men are supposedly created equal.

Jan Brewer only backtracked when it started to hit AZ in their wallet.

Conservatives love money more than they hate gays.

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#68500 Feb 27, 2014
YHVH - A MIDGET AMONG OTHER MIDGETS TRYING TO ASSERT HIMSELF

"Today I put before you a blessing and a curse. The blessing if you give ear to the orders of the YHVH your God, which I give you this day . And the curse if you do not give ear to the orders of the YHVH your God, but let yourselves be turned from the way which I have put before you this day, and go after other gods which are not yours."

(Deuteronomy 11:26-11:28)

COMMENTS:

First, let me point out that YHVH is a mythical figure but while mocking and debunking YHVH and his teachings, I will assume that this mythical pygmy, YHVH, exists at least in the hallucinating minds of the observant Jews.

The lines of the above verses reveal that YHVH is a god among many competing gods each trying by hook or by crook to be the best. His repeated warning of avoiding other gods who're his arch rivals is pathetic and reminds me of a petty street smart ruffian trying to assert his dominance over the other petty goons that inhabit the same turf.

YHVH excels at threats, abuses and curses as evident through his howls and barks.

Moses, the alleged author of Deuteronomy, is projecting his own savagery by warning his people of seeking out other gods and being a powerful man in his tribe Moses ends up terrorizing his tribe by inventing a G-d who howls, curses and threatens anyone caught disobeying.

CONCLUSION: The above verses are despicable and come straight out of the foul mouth of a demented creature called Moses, assuming he existed. This subhuman type, Moses, should have been admitted to a lunatic asylum. What an evil rascal!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#68502 Feb 27, 2014
former res wrote:
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Thanks god we still have a few adults minding the store.
All men are supposedly created equal.
Jan Brewer only backtracked when it started to hit AZ in their wallet.
Conservatives love money more than they hate gays.
I know, its shocking - isnt it? Its a fascinating decision in that he considers all the angles (i.e. all the ideological-religious arguments about marriage, welfare of children etc)

and from a Conservative judge in an extremely conservative district

Marriage inequality really IS toast..

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#68504 Feb 27, 2014
former res wrote:
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Thanks god we still have a few adults minding the store.
All men are supposedly created equal.
Jan Brewer only backtracked when it started to hit AZ in their wallet.
Conservatives love money more than they hate gays.
I dont think Jan Brewer ever intended on signing it (though I admit I wasnt following it from the beginning). She really isnt that conservative. She plays the game to get votes, and the old white people in Arizona are naturally socially conservative or libertarian - but not always politically conservative .

She also backtracked an accepted the medicaid expansion a while back too.

The business leaders in AZ are still smarting from the 90s (when I lived there) when AZ was mired in deep sht regarding their refusal at the time to accept a MLK day. No one wants a replay of that fiasco. Especially when then, like now, most people were not really racists (or homophobes).

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#68505 Feb 27, 2014
Some of the most barbaric punishments are listed in LEVITICUS CHAPTER 26 for apostasy/disobedience. Oh my, this epitome of extreme barbarism, HaShem (YHVH), is worshipped as G-d. LMFAO.

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#68506 Feb 27, 2014
former res wrote:
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Jan Brewer only backtracked when it started to hit AZ in their wallet.
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“Senate Bill 1062 does not address a specific and present concern related to religious liberty in Arizona,” she said.“To the supporters of the legislation, I want you to know that I understand that long-held norms about marriage and family are being challenged as never before. Our society is undergoing many dramatic changes. However, I sincerely believe that Senate Bill 1062 has the potential to create more problems than it purports to solve. It could divide Arizona in ways we cannot even imagine and no one would ever want. Religious liberty is a core American and Arizona value, so is non-discrimination.”

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/27/gops_religiou...

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#68507 Feb 27, 2014
MOCKING THE MITZVOT

In future posts, I will be mocking the 613 Mitzvot while debunking them.

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#68508 Feb 27, 2014
While mocking and debunking the SHEMA, I will also examine the logic underlying 3 key biblical words ECHAD (cohesiveness), YACHID (singular) and ACHAD (unify).

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#68509 Feb 27, 2014
Bye, boyz, for now. LOL.

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#68510 Feb 27, 2014
typo

Moses, the alleged author of Deuteronomy, is projecting his own savagery by warning his people AGAINST seeking out other gods and being a powerful man in his tribe Moses ends up terrorizing his tribe by inventing a G-d who howls, curses and threatens anyone caught disobeying.

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#68511 Feb 27, 2014
ELOHAI NESHAMA: A MUMBO JUMBO JEWISH PRAYER

TRANSLATION

"My God, the soul You have given me is pure. You created it, You formed it, and You breathed it into me. and You guard it while it is within me, and one day You will take it from me, and restore it to me in the time to come. As long as the soul is within me, I will thank You, HaShem my God and God of my ancestors, Master of all works, Lord of all souls. Blessed are You, LORD, who restores souls to lifeless bodies."

COMMENTS: Barbarians with little knowledge of reality constructed such prayers addressed to a particular "spirit" that they worshipped and which is selected for exclusive adoration from numerous other competing spirits.

The above prayer, the Elohai Nehsama, is a morning prayer of praise and thanks addressed to the mythical creature HaShem and is based on a deep misunderstanding about the nature of the reality. It is mumbo jumbo since it refers to a creator deity who creates souls from nothing or from some mysterious spiritual substance that no one knows anything about nor is there any supporting evidence in favor of it.

The believers view this so-called soul (breath of life, vital airs) as separate from the body that is infused into the body by a G-d at the time of conception/birth which as a result animates the body and serves as the presence of G-d within. If this so-called soul is put inside the body it should then connect with the energy field/matter of the body. How does it do it? How can it animate the body without being causally linked to the body? If a causal link is established with the body, would the soul not fall under the sway of the physical laws? Then how does it retain its spiritual purity in this case?

Mumbo jumbo.

Besides, I fail to understand the meaning of "purity of soul" - a supposedly blemishless soul created by a G-d is breathed into the body of a person whose genes could be highly mutated and whose behavior and ancestry could be savage and yet this pure soul remains untouched despite being lodged in the body and in addition despite being pure and watched over by this G-d it fails to transform the person's character.

Well, in the absence of contamination, even a poison is pure.

According to the prayer, this inserted soul or infused spiritual substance (whatever it is) will on death be plucked out from the body by G-d and put back (into what? the new body?) at the appointed time (is this a reference to rebirth?).

Everything about this prayer whether from a mystical or a rational perspective is mumbo jumbo.

The result of reciting such a silly prayer leads to delusion and a rigid clinging to an imaginary G-d and the putting of faith in an imaginary entity called soul.

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