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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Hi there.
ha ha ha
I've come to the end of my researches in mind-matter using yogic experience and scientific evidences.
I am in touch with leading mind-matter researchers and with some mainstream scientists in this regard.
The mainstream scientists (though they lack the most crucial thing which is yogic experiences) are more in tune with the reality than the psi researchers like Sheldrake, Radin, Chopra, Lipton and others.
You can stick to Torah.
Look forward to reading your published results in the Journal of Applied Yogology

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the problem is the ashkenazi are not religious hews with a direct line of descent they are from an area in Russia where their king adapted the Jewish religion to be a state within a state about 1200 years ago they have no claim at all to isreal their religion is a farce and most closely resembles the ferengi rules of acquisition. as far as intolerance they stab at the White majority with everything they have and they did 911 and everyone with half a brain knows it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Thats exactly the issue!

Everyone else with the FULL brain thinks you are a nut case
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FRIJOLES: Look forward to reading your published results in the Journal of Applied Yogology.

JOEL: Nah, nothing of that sort,(Dad).

I'm extremely privileged to have experienced much of the reality through yogic experiences and to know that these altered states of consciousness with concomitant paranormal phenomena exist and at the same time I am pleased with my rationality backed by scientific education/scientific evidence.

I have seen some the best that's to be seen in both these worldviews.

Now, is the time to sit back and unwind after so many years of hard work and suffering.

The conclusion that I've reached is this: The aim of life is to know the reality subjectively as well as objectively.

Subjective experiences of the reality should manifest in the physical and by making good use of the intelligence objective methods like the scientific method should be worked out in a realistic manner to give us a glimpse of the reality.

However, both these methods suffer from limitations - the subjective method can lead to bizarre interpretations and to hallucinations if not grounded in reason, while the objective method can lead to superficial conclusions based on flimsy (or incomplete) inferential data.

Even if a yogi enters the deepest state of consciousness he gets so lost in the experience of consciousness that he loses sight of the basis of consciousness which is matter, while, working with superficial data like CMB (and mathematical tools that're subject to Godel's propositions), the scientist never gets a direct glimpse of the cosmic event nor can he ever hope to replicate nature's processes like singularity (if it exists), vacuum state, Big Bang, dark energy, Higgs field, supernovae, black holes, quarks, sentience, sentient cell and the like.

So, instead of wasting the whole of life in such pursuits that're incomplete by being fanatically inclined towards any of these extreme methods - subjectivity and objectivity - the best approach is to mix both these methods after coming to some sort of definitive conclusion based on direct experiences and inferential scientific data and then to sit back and enjoy life and to make every attempt to use science and yogic experience, without obsessing on either, to uplift humankind and to usher in an era of peace at the individual and at the collective level.
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the problem is the ashkenazi are not religious hews with a direct line of descent they are from an area in Russia where their king adapted the Jewish religion to be a state within a state about 1200 years ago they have no claim at all to isreal their religion is a farce and most closely resembles the ferengi rules of acquisition. as far as intolerance they stab at the White majority with everything they have and they did 911 and everyone with half a brain knows it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The real issue is that there is no REAL jews.

You are right on that lots of todays jews comes from Russian azinazi europeans ans polish people.

But if you accept that, why would you choose to believe any of the biblical nonsense.

The jews invented the bible and claimed to be gods chosen to "lead nations".
And if you examine the talmud then you see excatly how jews view the non jews- they view us as cattle and beasts.

My question why believe a idioic book invented by jews - jews have been proven to be the biggest liars up thoughout history.

Even the trans atlantic slavery of africans was controled by jews.

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So, instead of wasting the whole of life in such pursuits that're incomplete by being fanatically inclined towards any of these extreme methods - subjectivity and objectivity - the best approach is to mix both these methods after coming to some sort of definitive conclusion based on direct experiences and inferential scientific data and then to sit back and enjoy life and to make every attempt to use science and yogic experience, without obsessing on either, to uplift humankind and to usher in an era of peace at the individual and at the collective level.
You assume that most people are "fanatically inclined" towards the extremes. It has not been my experience that this is true. Most people are, thank God, reasonably adjusted, and balance what they do professionally with how they think personally.

Second, how can you aim to uplift humankind when preaching division and stereotypes?

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You assume that most people are "fanatically inclined" towards the extremes. It has not been my experience that this is true. Most people are, thank God, reasonably adjusted, and balance what they do professionally with how they think personally.
This comment shows that you're not grounded in the reality.

Your worldview is tooo narrow.

Fanaticism on both sides of the divide - psi and science - is toooo tangible to be ignored.

Rarely, is the right balance struck - psi researchers are not yogis nor are they sufficiently rational, while materialistic scientists who deny the paranormal are too shut up in the black hole of matter and not being yogis they lack an understanding of the subjective side of nature.

Anyway, relax.

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Most people are, thank God, reasonably adjusted, and balance what they do professionally with how they think personally.
God? LOL.

G-d or God is an imagination conjured up by hallucinating bronze age barbarians.

No, most people are one sided and too rigid in most ways...

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Second, how can you aim to uplift humankind when preaching division and stereotypes?
Uplifting humankind does not mean making a compromise with either camp.

It means presenting a synthesis of the subjective experiences in a rational way and backing that up with objective scientific theories/findings.

The synthesis will provide the cosmic worldview and it should be done without coercion.

If people are curious enough they'll understand the grand synthesis and attempt to imbibe something of it depending on their innate capacity and level of interest.

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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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This comment shows that you're not grounded in the reality.
Your worldview is tooo narrow.
Fanaticism on both sides of the divide - psi and science - is toooo tangible to be ignored.
Rarely, is the right balance struck - psi researchers are not yogis nor are they sufficiently rational, while materialistic scientists who deny the paranormal are too shut up in the black hole of matter and not being yogis they lack an understanding of the subjective side of nature.
Anyway, relax.
And there you go accusing SCIENTISTS as the ones who are fanatical, while you spew fanaticism here 24/7.

Are you that out of touch with yourself?

Some yogi you are.

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God? LOL.
G-d or God is an imagination conjured up by hallucinating bronze age barbarians.
No, most people are one sided and too rigid in most ways...
doing your part to advance world harmony as usual

You are not only a hypocrite. You are an idiot.

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The real issue is that there is no REAL jews.
You are right on that lots of todays jews comes from Russian azinazi europeans ans polish people.
But if you accept that, why would you choose to believe any of the biblical nonsense.
The jews invented the bible and claimed to be gods chosen to "lead nations".
And if you examine the talmud then you see excatly how jews view the non jews- they view us as cattle and beasts.
My question why believe a idioic book invented by jews - jews have been proven to be the biggest liars up thoughout history.
Even the trans atlantic slavery of africans was controled by jews.
We also control the internet so I would be careful if I was you.
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In a topic like this - jews will claim to be the big opposition to christianity.
YEt Christianity is the only reason why jews get granted bio's from the american government. And the only reason why some americans sympatize with Isreal.

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How about lunch? LOL.

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In a topic like this - jews will claim to be the big opposition to christianity.
YEt Christianity is the only reason why jews get granted bio's from the american government. And the only reason why some americans sympatize with Isreal.
How opposed to Christianity could we be? Jesus was a Jew for godessess sake.

May Thor send a bolt your way.
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We also control the internet so I would be careful if I was you.
Yea yeah, yet more jewish humor and goofing.
You people have no honesty or honor in life.

Well, You wish that you controled the internet, unfrotuntalty for you there is still free speech there!!

But there is a jewish owner on Gmail and Facebook. And facebook has begun to get like a big brother gathering of information. Mark zukaberg is jewish.

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How about lunch? LOL.
get a puppy

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Uplifting humankind does not mean making a compromise with either camp.
It means presenting a synthesis of the subjective experiences in a rational way and backing that up with objective scientific theories/findings.
The synthesis will provide the cosmic worldview and it should be done without coercion.
If people are curious enough they'll understand the grand synthesis and attempt to imbibe something of it depending on their innate capacity and level of interest.
But that not what you do. You preach stereotypes and derogatives.

Know Thyself!
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Everyone can examine these facts i'm talking about.

I must admit that i was a bit like you, when i first heard about jewish monopolies. I always imagiend that "gods people" were victims.

But when i examined the claims. I saw the reality of the situation.
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How opposed to Christianity could we be? Jesus was a Jew for godessess sake.
May Thor send a bolt your way.
Excatly, how opposed are jews to christianity being in USA and Europe?
You aren't.

because jews do profit from american government money, getting a kosher tax in america and by AIPAC doing the killings for the Isreali Rothschild imerialists.

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Everyone can examine these facts i'm talking about.
I must admit that i was a bit like you, when i first heard about jewish monopolies. I always imagiend that "gods people" were victims.
But when i examined the claims. I saw the reality of the situation.
So, how much do you agree with what Hitler has done to Jews?

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