Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#66338 Jan 22, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>,
When he asks me technical questions about the good book,
he loses me.
Too late in life for me to become a biblical scholar or apologist.
I just know Jews don't believe in JC as the son of god.
Otherwise they'd be Christians.
That part at least seems fairly straight forward.
rabbee: well HaMosheeach is the same one as the last two Torot times. and this world still can't figure out, G-D'S Story does not change to this world rejecting it from G-D again.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#66339 Jan 22, 2014
G-D already told this world, Who HaMosheeach is. and this world still does not believe it, here in TheTorah again. and just can't get that G-D'S Truth does not ever change, to this world making all the same mistakes again.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#66340 Jan 22, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Fair enough and interesting background.
Can I take it you're also a Star Trek fan vs Star Wars?
I had looked up the Kahn quote but forgot it was Melville.
Reminds of a good short story - Bartleby the Scrivener.
He kept saying "I would prefer not to". Good stuff to the teenager I
was at the time I read it.(Him and of course Holden Caulfield.)
Trek vs Wars? Alien apples and genetically mutated oranges. Both are cool but Trek is probably more closely related to the human condition and the story lines are supposed to make you think (mostly about alien women with gravity-defying boobs).

Star Wars, on the other hand, is good old-fashioned space blaster action and good fun (we won't speak of those "prequels" for which may Mr Lucas be fed to the Sarlac).

FYI -- Holden Caulfield is a character in a novel by J.D. Salinger, not the author.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66341 Jan 23, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: nah! i am talking about, star trek the series - about the wrath of kahn. so far all the star trek movies, are little more than expansions of one of their episodes - nothing really new. just like the new Riddick movie, is just another pitch black movie with a twist.
Love the original series. That's where it all came from.

Ever see the Twilight Zone episode with Shatner on the plane? Classic.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66342 Jan 23, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: well HaMosheeach is the same one as the last two Torot times. and this world still can't figure out, G-D'S Story does not change to this world rejecting it from G-D again.
You lost me.

Frijoles would understand.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66343 Jan 23, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
Trek vs Wars? Alien apples and genetically mutated oranges. Both are cool but Trek is probably more closely related to the human condition and the story lines are supposed to make you think (mostly about alien women with gravity-defying boobs).
Star Wars, on the other hand, is good old-fashioned space blaster action and good fun (we won't speak of those "prequels" for which may Mr Lucas be fed to the Sarlac).
FYI -- Holden Caulfield is a character in a novel by J.D. Salinger, not the author.
Yes, I know. Was comparing Bartlbey with Holden - two characters. Thought you were with me! Two independent types.

Most American school kids had to read Catcher.

Star Wars is ok/ I'm generally not a sci fi fan. Save the Star Treks mentioned.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#66344 Jan 23, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You lost me.
Frijoles would understand.
or not!

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#66345 Jan 23, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Love the original series. That's where it all came from.
Ever see the Twilight Zone episode with Shatner on the plane? Classic.
rabbee: yeah the fit two or three episodes into a movie. and most of the star trek series like the next generation is offshoots of the original too. hard to imagine, the graphics at the time were state of the art. but the plots and lessons were good.

yeah Shatner on the plane with the devil ripping it apart. aside from star trek, twilight zone and science fiction theater were two my favorites. and then there is always the old standby, rocky and Bullwinkle.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#66346 Jan 23, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You lost me.
Frijoles would understand.
rabbee: well you all, know that story you call adam and eve? while none of you are ever here in TheTorah when it is happening today. well it, is happening again. with history repeats, is an understatement.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#66347 Jan 23, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
or not!
rabbee: yeah i know none of you ever really believed this story of adam and the alleged eve from G-D. with all of you nobodies, here in TheTorah actually again.

and every time adam and his mate arrive, there is always none of you ever here in TheTorah now.

cause you all cannot figure out, what Story TheG-D of Only TheTorah is giving here. cause you all think, your soooo! smart.

G-D only gives TheTorah, to all you - were not here, were not here, were not here. well i know, your all not here. in your being a Whole Torah short of a full load, here in IT.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66349 Jan 23, 2014
former res---I don't believe in god so you will have to probe me in a different manner.

HughBe--- Why did you DARE contradict my words of TRUTH?

Former---Also, I lack the biblical knowledge to respond to your query,

HughBe--- That is known and accepted. However, it does NOT require "biblical knowledge" to read and answer my question. What it takes are basic READING skills and basic COMPREHENSION skills.

Note, any 3rd grade student here in Jamaica could answer my questions so why can't a graduate like you? TRY AGAIN. Forget religion and deal with it as a COMPREHENSION passage. Did you get such activities in your primary and secondary schools?

Ezekiel 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of ISRAEL before their IDOLS"

What did GOD call them?

Who were they worshipping?

Former--- Mr. Queer.

HughBe--- Drop the extra E and add the Y at the end, you pervert.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#66350 Jan 23, 2014
1 min ago and now a few words from our "sponsors" about the new Egyptian game called , Kill a Hammas terrorist asap.

Egyptian Journalist: We Should Teach Hamas a Lesson
Egypt should learn from Israel and “teach Hamas a lesson” until they learn to "respect the Egyptian shoe," says local journalist.
AAFont SizeBy Elad Benari
First Publish: 1/23/2014, 6:16 AM

Egypt should take a page from Israel’s book and “teach Hamas a lesson,” an Egyptian journalist recently said.

The comments by journalist Muhammad Hassan Al-Alfi were made in a January 9 interview on Faraeen TV. The comments were translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

Al-Alfi said in the interview that Egypt “should discipline [Hamas] just as Israel did... We must strike them so they learn to respect the Egyptian shoe."

"Only then will they kiss that shoe and learn what Egypt is worth," he declared.

“Our sons were killed and our economy was ruined in wars fought for their sake. We fought for their sake, and now, they are fighting against us, kidnapping our sons [in Sinai] and killing them,” said Al-Alfi.

“The terrorist camps in Gaza must be attacked,” he continued.“The Al-Qassam Brigades, which train them and send them over here, must be attacked. We should discipline them just as Israel did. We should not just retaliate. When you are weak, you get hit. We must strike them so they learn to respect the Egyptian shoe.”

Unlike the previous Egyptian government led by Hamas’s parent movement the Muslim Brotherhood, the current army-led government has been cracking down on Hamas, shutting down its tunnels which lead from the Sinai into Gaza. Hamas uses these tunnels to transfer goods, weapons and even terrorists.

The crackdown on Hamas is part of an Egyptian operation against the many terrorist cells in the Sinai Peninsula. Egypt has blamed Hamas of being involved in teaching Islamists in Egypt how to carry out attacks. Hamas has denied the allegations.

The interim government in Cairo recently declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization and renewed its wide-ranging crackdown on Brotherhood members and supporters. Sources in Egypt indicated last week that now that the Egyptian military has taken care of the Brotherhood, its offshoot Hamas was next.

Bravo Egypt, u nor Israel needs on our /your border any Iranian sponsored terror groups like the Hammas.
Amen. Great.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66351 Jan 23, 2014
HughBe wrote:
......Ezekiel 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of ISRAEL before their IDOLS"
What did GOD call them?
Who were they worshipping?....
children of Israel ??

I think it's because god didn't approve of false idols

but that's just my take on it

What it your point?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66352 Jan 23, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
children of Israel ??
I think it's because god didn't approve of false idols
but that's just my take on it
What it your point?
HughBe----.Ezekiel 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of ISRAEL before their IDOLS"

What did GOD call them?

Who were they worshipping?....

Former---children of Israel ??

HughBe--- Why the question marks? Are you without BASIC reading skills? What are the other names for the children of Israel could they include the word Jews?

Former---I think it's because god didn't approve of false idols

HughBe--- What are you saying? Are you saying that they were called children of Israel because your "god" did not approve of false idols?

Former----What it your point?

HughBe--- Answer the above and light shall shine in your black soul.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#66353 Jan 23, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
children of Israel ??
I think it's because god didn't approve of false idols
but that's just my take on it
What it your point?
Now I am laughing at you

Trying to converse with the gay Jamaican is a bit like waiting for Godot.
LOLOL

Denver, CO

#66354 Jan 23, 2014
lol i dont even care
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66355 Jan 24, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Now I am laughing at you
Trying to converse with the gay Jamaican is a bit like waiting for Godot.
I deserve it.

And in this case, I'm an idiot X2.

One - for conversing with him; and two - for not knowing
what the hexx I'm talking about.

Guilty as charged.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66356 Jan 24, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe----.Ezekiel 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of ISRAEL before their IDOLS"
What did GOD call them?
Who were they worshipping?....
Former---children of Israel ??
HughBe--- Why the question marks? Are you without BASIC reading skills? What are the other names for the children of Israel could they include the word Jews?.
Ok - Jews. So? What's your point?

The bigger question for you to answer is: How do you know god said this? Just because someone wrote it down in a book many years ago?

And what makes you think there is a god to begin with?

Seem you've build your entire argument on a foundation of sand.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---I think it's because god didn't approve of false idols
HughBe--- What are you saying? Are you saying that they were called children of Israel because your "god" did not approve of false idols?
Former----What it your point?
HughBe--- Answer the above and light shall shine in your black soul .
But I don't see a cause and effect relationship between children of Israel and idols, false or otherwise. Do you?

Fairy tales can be interpreted in infinite ways.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#66357 Jan 24, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I deserve it.
And in this case, I'm an idiot X2.
One - for conversing with him; and two - for not knowing
what the hexx I'm talking about.
Guilty as charged.
Are you at least enjoying our tropical weather?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66358 Jan 24, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok - Jews. So? What's your point?
The bigger question for you to answer is: How do you know god said this? Just because someone wrote it down in a book many years ago?
And what makes you think there is a god to begin with?
Seem you've build your entire argument on a foundation of sand.
<quoted text>
But I don't see a cause and effect relationship between children of Israel and idols, false or otherwise. Do you?
Fairy tales can be interpreted in infinite ways.
HughBe----.Ezekiel 6:5 And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of ISRAEL before their IDOLS"
What did GOD call them?
Who were they worshipping?....

Former---Ok - Jews. So? What's your point?

HughBe---- A couple of points.

1. Don't speak when you know not what you are saying.
2. Think before you speak
3. Your original point that Jews who become Christians are no longer Jews is BS and because you are just a sheep I shall not call it CRIMINAL. Your FALSE assertion is BS for many reasons including the ETHNICITY reason that YOU have mentioned and also because even if they worship IDOLS the God of the Tanach calls them Jews so who the material are you and the LYING rabbis to say otherwise.,

Who should the Jewish people believe? Should they believe their God or the self-appointed rabbis/god-men

Former---How do you know god said this?

HughBe--- Not even the LYING rabbis would ask such a question. Ask them.

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