Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66141 Jan 18, 2014
Creationists have no place in a knowledge-based society. All their ideas on creation from nothing, extra-cosmic God, existence of a spirit or ruach or nephesh and ideas of sin or of heaven or of hell are baseless and vain repetitions of the infantile rantings of the ignorant prophets/patriarchs of scripture.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66142 Jan 18, 2014
Religious rituals like shabbath, church service, fasting, salat, pilgrimage and pooja are so many wasteful practices that trap the minds of believers in a dangerous time warp and which retards the further evolution of consciousness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66145 Jan 18, 2014
Using powerful aspiration, certain sounds and concentrated thought one can give shape to a form of energy - to a God or to many Gods - that corresponds to your construct.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66146 Jan 18, 2014
If the will of the meditator is potent enough, the formation - the God - that he has shaped in energy field persists for centuries if not millennia and is supported or is kept in proper shape with a few variations by the successors of the original prophet who created the energy form in the past. Heavens or hells are simply the stations in space-time these formations occupy. This is why we see a change in commands or teachings or of personality or of name of the created God or of the created Gods down the ages.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66147 Jan 18, 2014
YHVH, Shiva, Kali, Baphomet, Baal and others are such example of Gods created as peculiar energy formations by powerful meditators in the past.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66148 Jan 18, 2014
Present day believers simply sustain the energy forms of these created God or Gods by focused prayer which is nothing but mind impressing on matter which then sustains the energy form of the God or of the Gods.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66149 Jan 18, 2014
So, God or the Gods are human creations.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66150 Jan 18, 2014
Anyone with a powerful will and deep meditative capacity of tuning into the energy field can create a God or many Gods.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66151 Jan 18, 2014
CONCLUSION: Everything in the whole of existence is an integrated field of energy, matter and consciousness with certain formations (natural phenomena) coming into existence due to natural causal mechanisms and in addition there exist certain other forms of energy (God or the Gods) that were created by inventive human effort in the distant past that made use of a powerful will and by impressing in the energy field certain potent mental imagery via powerful meditation techniques that then took animated form in a particular spatio-temporal dimension of the energy field and which've been sustained down the ages by fear, aspiration and prayer to these created forms of energy (God/Gods). So, there's nothing mysterious or awe-inspiring about the existence of God or of the Gods - they're ancient human creations as described above.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66152 Jan 18, 2014
No wonder, like human nature, these formations of energy - God or the Gods - created by powerful human effort in the distant past are anthropopathic creatures displaying human qualities like rage, jealousy, murderous instincts, cruelty, possessiveness, love to those who bow before them and the like.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#66153 Jan 18, 2014
It talks, and talks, and talks, and says nothing.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66154 Jan 18, 2014
I will have nothing to do with these anthropopathic gods of the various religions that are mere creations of human effort involving the occult.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66155 Jan 18, 2014
HIGH RISK IN RELIGION:

Worshippers of these energy formations (God/Gods) created by human effort are invariably unbalanced in mind and emotions by these energy formations (God/Gods) whose frequencies of vibration, mostly of a distorted kind, exceed those of the normal frequencies at which ordinary human beings operate. Besides, these energy formations (God/Gods) of past human effort have been imbued with the worst personality traits of their human formateurs (creators) and so anyone worshipping any of these created energy formations (God/Gods) stands a high risk of being unsettled in mind and emotions which as a result is manifested in the worshipper as fanaticism, insanity, savagery and disturbing vibes which these believers radiate.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66156 Jan 18, 2014
Nursing, carpentry, waiting at tables, dish washing, garbage clearance, shoe shining and the like are the menial professions that attract people with low IQs.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

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#66157 Jan 18, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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The Jewish messiah was someone who would liberate the Jews from the Roman Occupation. Since the Roman Empire no longer exists, is it right to say that they are still waiting for one? Perhaps Frijoles can clarify.
BTW - at the beginning of the first century, many people claimed to be the messiah. Most of them were crucified for the crime of sedition, Jesus included.
rabbee: no! that was not His assignment, The assignment of HaMosheeach is written in TheTorah. He was there to try and find, a true talking critter for his correspondence. you need to check with G-D, in TheTorah first and not fallible men first. i think that false name jesus, is confusing all of you. you need to check with, Who G-D calls as HaMosheeach. G-D does not lie, it never changes. and i am willing to bet, that all you highly intelligent idiots. do not know, what to expect next. after the alleged death, of Adam. cause you are all too goo-ood! to be true arrogant snobs are too goo-ood to be here in this story from G-D again.

yehoshooah adam

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#66158 Jan 18, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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To hide his bald spot?
rabbee: or trying to be a fake, head jew replacement!

yehoshooah adam

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#66159 Jan 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Nursing, carpentry, waiting at tables, dish washing, garbage clearance, shoe shining and the like are the menial professions that attract people with low IQs.
rabbee: can you give me your address, so i can send you my shoes to shine?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#66160 Jan 19, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Messiah? Waiting for a Messiah is another obsolete idea promoted by religious charlatans who're clueless about the nature of the reality. This so-called Messiah will never show up and even if does he'll either be executed, jailed or hospitalized in a mental asylum. Imagine a messiah from a lineage of a mass murdering pervert like David coming to the rescue of a particular community or of the world in general. Even in the past when these so-called prophets were around all that they did was kill, maim, abuse, coerce and threaten. Not a single truly profound teaching based on the higher consciousness has come from these prophets and patriarchs and this is why every value or every insight they provided has been debunked and the world has progressed minus their perverse ideas and mindless rituals. Thankfully, most Jews, and increasingly many people of all religious backgrounds, these days, are irreligious and have no place for mumbo jumbo in their lives.
Actually, you were one of the people I was thinking of when I mentioned that there were certain people HERE that were certain that they WERE the messiah. Its all about ego.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#66161 Jan 19, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
It talks, and talks, and talks, and says nothing.
Even worse (or better), it talks to ITSELF.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#66162 Jan 19, 2014
THE GENESIS OF RELIGIONS:

The very early human beings who arose nearly a hundred thousand or more years ago were barely human and lived more by their survival instincts centered on food, sleep, excretion, mating, nurturing their and fighting among themselves for superiority. Fear of nature made them revere natural elements.As the minds of the incipient human race further developed under environmental impulses and greater mentation brought on by more complex brain wiring, their resourcefulness turned them into pastoralists and agriculturists. Till now God or the Gods were no where in sight. With a few more evolutionary thrusts, the early human race became less fearful of nature and more settled in their minds and the few thoughtful ones among them began thinking about nature and themselves. With added cogitation and deep aspiration to know the truth about these things the nervous systems of the handful of first human seekers got finer and at a particular critical threshold their receptive mind-consciousness locked in with certain higher frequencies of vibration of the universal energy field as manifested in the human being. This act of opening up in consciousness to the higher ranges of consciousness gave them the capacity to directly perceive the play of the inter-connected forces in and around them. With increasing ability to tune in (via heightened aspiration and deep concentration) with the nature forces there emerged in the first human seekers a more potent will which could act directly on energy or on matter without making use of limbs, animal power or crude machinery. They discovered in these altered states of consciousness that a focussed thought took form in the energy field and sustained itself by drawing in energy from nature or on being fed energy by the seeker from his own fund of personal energies. Many such forms in energy field were then created and given names and called God or the Gods. In this way, the Gods as human created formations of energy came into existence. Organized religion and priestcraft soon followed and with these came in greater brutality, greater mind control of the masses and greater intolerance.

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