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Jan 9, 2014
 
Genocide: The Vanishing Christian Communities of the Middle East

By Dr. Guy Bechor
(Translation from Hebrew: Avishai Zonnenberg, Arik Klein)

The numbers are truly staggering: In Iraq of 2003, until the fall of Sadam Hussein, there were 1.5 million Christians, but today there are only 250,000, that means that 1.25 million have migrated, killed or been forced to become Muslims. In Syria of just three years ago there were 1.75 million Christians, out of whom 450,000 have already left, and the rate of the ethnic cleansing is only growing.

This means that by the end of this decade there will be no more Christian Arabs in the Levant meaning the northern east of the Middle East. In the space that is becoming “Salafi” and violent, there is no place for the Christian Arabs, and they are being forcedly exiled.

This phenomenon is happening in full force at the Palestinian Authority, and if in Bethlehem there where once 90% Christians, today it is already 65% Muslims. The tradition is that the mayor is Christian despite the Muslim majority, but the female mayor is facing harsh persecution, including by the “Fatah” movement.

The day in which there will be no more Christian Arabs in the Palestinian authority is getting close, and according to estimates there are only a few tens of thousands left. In the day to day of the Hamas, Salafis and the Jihad, they have no existence, and they migrate, many to South America, where they already have large communities.

In Hamas's Gaza, out of 2,500 Christians there are only few hundreds left, the rest have escaped or have been forced to become Muslims. If one day there will be an independent “Palestinian” territory, the Christians will be the first to pay the price, especially after the Salafis will start to take over the control there, and it is only a matter of time, as it is in the entire Middle East.

The Christian were promoted at the National Arab Movement, they were the leaders of the Pan-Arab movement; with the Hamas they were tolerated, but the Salafis are brutally exterminating them. In the Shari'a ruled state, the Christians have no place.
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Jan 9, 2014
 
In Egypt nearly nine million are Coptic Christians (one tenth), and the estimate is that a quarter of a million have already migrated since the fall of Mubarak, and the rest are suffering persecutions, murders, violence, robbery and looting. They are in grave condition, and the reality is that there are no consequences for hurting them.

In Lebanon there are still about one million Christians (according to a survey published this year), but they are in deep despair, some of them are under the protection of the Shiite Hezbollah state. Do they really have any hope?

Oddly, in a year when the Pope is elected “Man of the Year,” there is no cry about the amazing ethnic cleansing being done to his flock, as well as nothing from the west. United State has murmured something, and that was it.

As for Israel this silence has few conclusions: while the new anti-Semites are busy condemning Israel, proposing resolutions and banning Israel, they are saying nothing about the real massacre and the forced exile taking place here, there is no limit for the hypocrisy. Where are the human rights movements, in the face of this Christians free Middle East being created here?

The second conclusion is for us in Israel: this silence is a warning that if G-d forbids Israel will one day be weakened, the extremists will do us much worse, and no one in the world would really help. In the violent and Salafi Middle East, there is no place for Christians, which did not know how to prepare on time, or the Jews.

Luckily for the latter in the Jewish state they are strong and deterring, now it is clear how important it is to have a Jewish state, as the only place in the Middle East left, that is not Muslim.

Now a word for the Christian communities around the world: if one day the sovereignty over the holy places in Jerusalem will be held solely by the Palestinian Authority, in a short time the religious war that is taking place in the entire Arab world will erupt here as well, and neither Jews nor Christians will be allowed access anymore to their holly sites, as it is happening in Syria, in the places sacred for the Christians.

Only under Jewish sovereignty the freedom of religion will be kept, and the proof is – only in one place in the entire Middle East do the Christian Arabs get freedom of religion as well as equality, and that is in Israel, and so for the first time, we see young Christian Arab citizens, wanting to join in alliance with the Jewish State. They already know that no one will be waiting for them out there, in the cold Christian winter.

Fuck stinking islam
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Jan 9, 2014
 
Frijoles wrote:
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It does apply to the spoken word but not in the way the poster framed the question. God is an English term, and as such, not that relevant to an orthodox Jew....
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Ok - but still.

An orthodox Jew can't WRITE God, but he can speak the name God.

Either the English name should matter or it shouldn't.

Can you see our confusion?
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Jan 9, 2014
 
Frijoles wrote:
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All my life until a year or two ago I thought they were singing coo coo ca choo!
Not - goo goo go chub!
I know! Me too!

Sitting on a what??

Had to look up the lyrics - though maybe you were just making shxt up!(Just like G-d only with an x!)
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Jan 9, 2014
 
HughBe wrote:
Maxi, here is one of your HATERS of Israel.
Listen well to who he is from the very start of the video. Listen to words like ORTHODOX Jew and Zionist etc.
Listen to his friends etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
What are you wearing? Mon.

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Jan 9, 2014
 
former res wrote:
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Ok - but still.
An orthodox Jew can't WRITE God, but he can speak the name God.
Either the English name should matter or it shouldn't.
Can you see our confusion?
Go back to what I said originally. An orthodox Jew CAN write God. Traditionally they always have. But recently, some Jews, have expanded the custom to include the English God. But that is not the classic orthodox tradition. In the classic tradition the English name doesnt matter. If you notice, I usually just write God. However, Eric doesnt. He follows the later custom. But he is not Orthodox.(That said, I do know some orthodox who dont write it either - but like I said, its not the tradition, its an add on)

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former res wrote:
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I know! Me too!
Sitting on a what??
Had to look up the lyrics - though maybe you were just making shxt up!(Just like G-d only with an x!)
and waiting on a "van" to come? I thought it was man.

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former res wrote:
<quoted text>.
Ok - but still.
An orthodox Jew can't WRITE God, but he can speak the name God.
Either the English name should matter or it shouldn't.
Can you see our confusion?
I think I may have misread you. Are you confused that an orthodox Jew can speak the name of God in Hebrew but not write the name of God in Hebrew?

If so, the words in Hebrew are "nicknames'(technically called appellations)- they arent really the name of God in Hebrew - that is never spoken, and never written.

Common appellations are adonay (loosely translated as lord), melech haolam (king of the universe), elohainu (our God), ribbono shel olam (lord of the universe), hashem (the name), etc etc. And the tetragammaton (pronounced as adonay) These are all used when praying/talking to God.

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What are you wearing? Mon.
dont get him started. You KNOW he hates gays.
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What are you wearing? Mon.
Drawers and a very short sexy shorts, only.

Are you in a suit?
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former res wrote:
<quoted text>.
Ok - but still.
An orthodox Jew can't WRITE God, but he can speak the name God.
Either the English name should matter or it shouldn't.
Can you see our confusion?
Frijoles----It does apply to the spoken word but not in the way the poster framed the question. God is an English term, and as such, not that relevant to an orthodox Jew....
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Former---Ok - but still.

An orthodox Jew can't WRITE God, but he can SPEAK the name God.

Either the English name should matter or it shouldn't.

Can you see our confusion?

HughBe--- The confused will never see, his confusion. Also I take it that to an "orthodox Jew" or more correctly to a member of Judaism the word God is not that relevant to him or her even when s/he knows only ENGLISH or is far more competent in ENGLISH because s/he lives in an ENGLISH speaking country.

Observation, to the "orthodox Jew" s/he can SPEAK the ENGLISH word God because the ENGLISH word becomes RELEVANT although it is not relevant to them.

Finally, the "orthodox Jew" does NOT obey Torah or God. Instead he OBEYS his god-men or rabbis who are ABOVE his Creator.

Torah says, "Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and serve him, and shalt SWEAR by his name." Deuteronomy 6:13

How do THEY comply with the above when they do NOT speak the name of God.
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Frijoles wrote:
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dont get him started. You KNOW he hates gays.
former res ---What are you wearing? Mon.

FRijoles----dont get him started. You KNOW he hates gays.

HughBe--- I hate no one. To disagree with someone's behaviour is not the same as HATING him or her. I honestly do NOT hate gays. So, cut the BS.

Moreover, if I hated GAYS or anyone else there is not a DAMN thing that anyone in this world could do to change that hate into love. Again, cut the BS.

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Oh stop being a pagan already

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Jan 9, 2014
 
"Birthday suit" and "French Letters".

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Jan 9, 2014
 
RABBEE,

I just can't believe that you once worked in the field of science and technology considering the fact that your knowledge of Math, Physics and Chemistry is so poor.

The same applies for a couple of other American posters here who claim to have "doctorates" in "science" and who have worked or who are working in science disciplines.

What I mean is that these posters hardly know anything in Math, Physics and Chem and yet they have been awarded the PhD in scientific disciplines by some misguided US universities where the faculty and the students appear to be sailing in the same sinking boat.

Shame.

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Jan 9, 2014
 
Had I been a doctoral student, the faculty in the university would have feared my presence since my novel ideas, penetrating questions and excellent skills in Math, Physics and Chem would have been too much for most of them to handle. I tend to learn any new concept or new skill in Math, Physics and Chem very fast and add a few more insights of my own to the subject and am some sort of a perfectionist when I get serious and would have raised the bar in the field of research much higher than most other doctoral candidates.
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I wouldnt know about such matters, however, it would seem that if you have concerns, there are a few environmental groups who have the ability and experience to sue the state - why dont you bring your concerns to them?
..........You mean like the DEEP? Who do you think are the culprits here? They are the ones changing the rules so they don't have to face liability for their failure to enforce the law as well as having taken kickbacks.Do you even realize there is a Garbage Lobby in DC?
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My late Dad (who had a razor sharp mind) had degrees in Math and Law. Odd combination. He was some sort of a genius in Math and would often score 100 on 100 in the subject in school and later in university. He would work out complex calculation mentally and would be coming up with new approaches in problem solving. These excellent analytical skills coupled with a superb command over the English language gave him a distinct advantage over most others who he dealt with. on the dark side, he was a notorious womanizer, a heavy drinker and a wife-abuser. At times, I miss my Dad. He instilled in me the love for perfection and often told me never to rest until a concept or an application had been thoroughly mastered. RIP.

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Jan 9, 2014
 
My late Mom was the one with terrific style who had great taste in art and a superb flair for languages especially English and French. She had a master's degree on English Lit. I miss her.

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Jan 9, 2014
 
Well, Hugh, how much do you know in Math?

3 ^ 0 =?

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