Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65464 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Sources preaching illogic should not be quoted.
Analysis, and that too based on deep intuition, higher logic and yogic experience, can easily blow to bits sources like the ones that you quoted.
But so far all you have offered is opinion. You can call that "analysis", and I can call my puppy a pig.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65465 Jan 8, 2014
All help is received from the self via the dynamic play of the forces of consciousness among the one seeking the help and the one(s) who serve as the potential helper(s). No G-d rushes to our help in times of need. Discard this G-d. Enthrone the self as the highest G-d. The self is the highest projection of the absolute that stands high above the G-d of the various religion.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65466 Jan 8, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Research costs money. In most cases that money comes in the form of research grants. In order to gain a research grant you must submit a proposal to the granting authority that specifically (among other many other things) the specific aims and experiments that relate directly to the hypothesis to be tested.
If you're looking to looking to study the effects of anthropomorphic carbon on penguin cuteness, your chances of getting said research grant are significantly greater than say looking into the effects of parliamentary stupidity on climate change.
In other words, the more likely your research will in someway benefit the grantor, the more likely you are to get yo money.
When you study the effects - you are conducting hypothesis testing. Which leaves the possibilities open for no effect. Its part of the statistical process.

In my experience, and I have secured a few grants in my lifetime, granting is usually more linked to a need to get rid of the money to legitimize a budget, than anything else. Thats more an argument for smaller government than an argument for bias and predisposition.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65467 Jan 8, 2014
I bow only to my higher self.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65468 Jan 8, 2014
I only worship my higher self.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65469 Jan 8, 2014
I seek complete union of my lower self with my higher self via the activated psychic.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65470 Jan 8, 2014
In my core consciousness, I am the Absolute, I am the Supreme Consciousness, I am the Field of Consciousness-Energy or I am the Source of Existence.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65471 Jan 8, 2014
Tat Tvam Asi, Joel - THAT thou art, Joel!

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65472 Jan 8, 2014
Enthrone the self as the supreme reality, reject the lower typal beings each calling itself G-d. This is the highest truth.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65473 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
In my core consciousness, I am the Absolute, I am the Supreme Consciousness, I am the Field of Consciousness-Energy or I am the Source of Existence.
Sitting on a cornflake waiting for the van to come
Corporation teeshirt, stupid bloody Tuesday
Man you been a naughty boy. You let your face grow long
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen
I am the walrus, goo goo goo joob

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65474 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Tat Tvam Asi, Joel - THAT thou art, Joel!
V'ayn kol chadash, tachat hashemesh.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65475 Jan 8, 2014
Good night.

“Here again in The Torah”

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#65477 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
ALL HELP COMES FROM THE SELF:
1) Many ignorant people believe that some G-d helps them in every matter and especially in times of crises.
2) Each set of believers believes that its chosen G-d comes to its rescue.
3) There's no truth to this naive belief.
4) Fear and uncertainty about the outcome of an event drives people deeper into the abyss of mumbo jumbo.
5) All help comes from within one's own consciousness.
6) Now, if we're a bit observant we see that those who come to our help in times of need are people who're known to us. It's rare for a stranger to offer material help. Family, friends, neighbors, employers and working colleagues are the ones who usually turn around to help us in varying ways in times of need.
7) Why is this so? This is because of a phenomenon called mental entanglement which works somewhat along similar lines just like in the case of quantum entanglement - our forces get influenced the most by those who are in regular contact with us and these forces act even at long distances.
8) When a certain combination of forces of an individual and his family, friends and acquaintances gets into a high state of mutual receptivity the help comes to the individual from one of these known persons.
9) This state of harmony is infectious and could even act on complete strangers who simply add their bit to the unfolding drama.
10) In contrast, when disharmony prevails then the closest of family members, friends and acquaintances are at loggerheads with each other or simply refuse to be of ay service.
11) So, help or its opposite which is its absence invariably involves a set of people known to each other.
12) So, the question of some G-d helping us in times of difficulties simply does not arise.
13) In fact, these G-ds can create obstacles given their selfish, egoistic and savage nature if one relies too heavily on any of them in times of need.
14) The more activated is the consciousness-energy field in the individual, the more he's able to draw help from people known to him by generating harmonious rhythms in the combined force fields of everyone concerned and hey pronto everything falls perfectly in place and the difficulty is overcome with ease at such a moment of great harmony in the force fields of the persons concerned.
rabbee: the self is - your worst enemy.

“Here again in The Torah”

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#65478 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Mental entanglement is the key mechanism in receiving help or in the giving of help.
rabbee: well who put the knots, in the panty hose of your mind.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#65479 Jan 8, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>When you study the effects - you are conducting hypothesis testing. Which leaves the possibilities open for no effect. Its part of the statistical process.

In my experience, and I have secured a few grants in my lifetime, granting is usually more linked to a need to get rid of the money to legitimize a budget, than anything else. Thats more an argument for smaller government than an argument for bias and predisposition.
Absolutely, there is always a chance that your hypothesis is wrong and the results of the study/experiment wholly other than that which was expected.

I'm discussing the securing of funding. Research dollars from private business is most likely to go to those proposals where the expected results are expected to support the business goals.
Government research dollars are more likely to go to proposals where the expected results support political goals.

At the present time, there is a lot of political pressure to find a simple, direct and demonstrable link (something that a politician can sum up in a sound bite) between carbon output and global warming. And that is where the money is most likely to be spent.

Yumpin Yimminy

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#65480 Jan 8, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Absolutely, there is always a chance that your hypothesis is wrong and the results of the study/experiment wholly other than that which was expected.
I'm discussing the securing of funding. Research dollars from private business is most likely to go to those proposals where the expected results are expected to support the business goals.
Government research dollars are more likely to go to proposals where the expected results support political goals.
At the present time, there is a lot of political pressure to find a simple, direct and demonstrable link (something that a politician can sum up in a sound bite) between carbon output and global warming. And that is where the money is most likely to be spent.
Sorry. I dozed off during that response. My bad. Way over my head. LOL Messianic Jews?

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#65481 Jan 8, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
I seek complete union of my lower self with my higher self via the activated psychic.
Are you seeking to unite your higher self with your LOWER self? I bet as soon as HughBe will read this, won't stop laughing about it.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65482 Jan 8, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Absolutely, there is always a chance that your hypothesis is wrong and the results of the study/experiment wholly other than that which was expected.
I'm discussing the securing of funding. Research dollars from private business is most likely to go to those proposals where the expected results are expected to support the business goals.
Government research dollars are more likely to go to proposals where the expected results support political goals.
At the present time, there is a lot of political pressure to find a simple, direct and demonstrable link (something that a politician can sum up in a sound bite) between carbon output and global warming. And that is where the money is most likely to be spent.
All I can say to that is that this hasnt been my experience.

Has it been your experience? I.E. Have you been directly involved in science at some time in your career path? and if you havent, why would posit this? It seems to me a tad cynical.

“Here again in The Torah”

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#65483 Jan 8, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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All I can say to that is that this hasnt been my experience.
Has it been your experience? I.E. Have you been directly involved in science at some time in your career path? and if you havent, why would posit this? It seems to me a tad cynical.
rabbee: i got an F for proving, a science teacher wrong. he said, "it could not be done". and he wouldn't even let me perform the experiment for him. on the excuse, fluorine gas was too dangerous. even though, i had already done it. as it turns out, years later they did prove you can combine fluorine, with a noble gas. and verified my calculations, on it's instability. so i am cynical of science teachers, and scientists. it does not hurt to have some cynicism, even about your own work. true science begins with, questioning yourself first.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65484 Jan 8, 2014
STRING THEORY AND VEDANTA:

String theory is an intellectual dead-end, yet it draws funding from lobbies with vested interest who wish to keep the rarefied discipline alive. The intellectual basis of strings is sound and borrowed from Vedanta - matter, say its proponents, is not made up of small dot-like entities such as neutrons or quarks but of incredibly small threads of energy that vibrate. A string that vibrates one way becomes an electron. Another, vibrating differently, becomes a neutron. And another becomes one of the carriers of the force of gravity. So, in brief, it means that a field of energy vibrates at different frequencies with each frequency of vibration manifesting as a particular entity. The difficulty with strings is that it works on a scale of 10 spatio-temporal dimensions which makes it too subtle to investigate using known physical means or to make useful and verifiable predictions. Imagine the colossal amount of energy that would be required to probe deep into the heart of matter to investigate the higher dimensions. The yogis use their awakened consciousness as the only instrument to investigate the higher dimensions of the universal field of which the individual is a holistic aspect and to unite with them.

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