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susanblange

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HughBe wrote:
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1. I remember YOU calling me "Coward for Christ" I have no memory of being called that by others. In any event what difference does it make if you or anyone else calls me such things? None.
Why? How can I attach importance to BS?
2. Apparently you have not learnt. If I am convinced of things e.g. That one's father makes one a Jew and that the Jewish status of Jesus is not inconsistent with this principle then neither a nuclear bomb nor your Satan can get me to surrender.
3. Much love, Mon.
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I think, according to Jewish tradition, if your mother is Jewish it makes you Jewish. Mary was a Levite, not a Judahite and if Jesus' father was not Joseph, then he is not a descendant and blood relative of David. You can't have it both ways. Even if Joseph was Jesus' father, he is traced back to David thru Jeconiah who was so wicked, he was precluded from having any of his descendants reign. Matthew 1:11. Jeremiah 22:30.
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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I think, according to Jewish tradition, if your mother is Jewish it makes you Jewish. Mary was a Levite, not a Judahite and if Jesus' father was not Joseph, then he is not a descendant and blood relative of David. You can't have it both ways. Even if Joseph was Jesus' father, he is traced back to David thru Jeconiah who was so wicked, he was precluded from having any of his descendants reign. Matthew 1:11. Jeremiah 22:30.
It may very well be that you are correct that it is Jewish tradition. However, you should consider when the tradition started plus it certainly is a tradition that goes against the scriptures.

Moses the lawgiver married a non-Jewish woman or an Ethiopian woman. Do you know what happened to those who dared to oppose Moses?

Reconcile Moses marriage to a non-Jew with the LIES of the rabbis.

Explain what God meant when He called Moses FAITHFUL. See verse below.

"And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

2 And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it.

3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)

4 And the Lord spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.

5 And the Lord came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.

6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is FAITHFUL in all mine house.

8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them; and he departed."

And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became LEPROUS,
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Note the approach of the High Priest, Aaron and the PROPHETESS Miriam.

"And Miriam and Aaron spake AGAINST Moses BECAUSE of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman"
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It may very well be that you are correct that it is Jewish tradition. However, you should consider when the tradition started plus it certainly is a tradition that goes against the scriptures.
Moses the lawgiver married a non-Jewish woman or an Ethiopian woman. Do you know what happened to those who dared to oppose Moses?
Reconcile Moses marriage to a non-Jew with the LIES of the rabbis.
Explain what God meant when He called Moses FAITHFUL. See verse below.
"And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
2 And they said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the Lord heard it.
3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
4 And the Lord spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.
5 And the Lord came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
7 My servant Moses is not so, who is FAITHFUL in all mine house.
8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the Lord shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?
9 And the anger of the Lord was kindled against them; and he departed."
And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became LEPROUS,
You know, HughBe, these days Judaism is not a race, it's a religion. Anybody can be a Jew, if they have the God of Israel in their heart. We cannot change our ethnicity but we can change our religion. What makes a Jew a Jew is the circumcision of the heart. The wicked and the righteous come in all races, creeds, and colors.
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Moses married an Ethiopian WOMAN or non-Jewish woman and God called him FAITHFUL. Let no man deceive you about this TRUTH.

Now for Moses to be called FAITHFUL by God Almighty it means that his MARRIAGE to the non-Jewish woman must have been CONSISTENT with God's laws.

" FAITHFUL in all mine house."
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THINK, I see you all later.
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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You know, HughBe, these days Judaism is not a race, it's a religion. Anybody can be a Jew, if they have the God of Israel in their heart. We cannot change our ethnicity but we can change our religion. What makes a Jew a Jew is the circumcision of the heart. The wicked and the righteous come in all races, creeds, and colors.
SusanB---You know, HughBe, these days Judaism is not a race, it's a religion.

HughBe---- My dear Susan Judaism was never a RACE. Also, God promised the land of Israel to a RACE or the SEED of Israel. So all who are not seed should pack their bags and LEAVE Israel.
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SusanB---You know, HughBe, these days Judaism is not a race, it's a religion.
HughBe---- My dear Susan Judaism was never a RACE. Also, God promised the land of Israel to a RACE or the SEED of Israel. So all who are not seed should pack their bags and LEAVE Israel.
All idolaters will be excommunicated from the land of Israel when the Messiah (God) comes. It's called the holy land for a reason and it will be a theocracy. All those who do not swear allegiance to God will be exiled. Both Jews and Gentiles will inhabit the land of Israel.
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It may very well be that you are correct that it is Jewish tradition. However, you should consider when the tradition started plus it certainly is a tradition that goes against the scriptures.
Moses the lawgiver married a non-Jewish woman or an Ethiopian woman. Do you know what happened to those who dared to oppose Moses?
Could be because Moses was not a Jew. He was a Hebrew. He was a Levite. He was an Israelite. He was never described in the Tanakh as a Jew.

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>All idolaters will be excommunicated from the land of Israel when the Messiah (God) comes. It's called the holy land for a reason and it will be a theocracy. All those who do not swear allegiance to God will be exiled. Both Jews and Gentiles will inhabit the land of Israel.
Whatever gets your motor started.

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>All idolaters will be excommunicated from the land of Israel when the Messiah (God) comes. It's called the holy land for a reason and it will be a theocracy. All those who do not swear allegiance to God will be exiled. Both Jews and Gentiles will inhabit the land of Israel.
rabbee: oh come on! if you kicked out, all the idolaters in Ysrael today. and only accepted, those true to HaShem G-D in. there would be nobody there, in Ysrael today.

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here we all are at the near end, of the sixth day again. and this whole world of pretend true experts, do not have a clue what is supposed to be really happening.

since when is G-D giving The Whole Torah, become a personal joke to all you nobodies here in IT?

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
here we all are at the near end, of the sixth day again. and this whole world of pretend true experts, do not have a clue what is supposed to be really happening.
since when is G-D giving The Whole Torah, become a personal joke to all you nobodies here in IT?
G-d isn't the joke, you are, Grizzly Adams.
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Could be because Moses was not a Jew. He was a Hebrew. He was a Levite. He was an Israelite. He was never described in the Tanakh as a Jew.
HughBe---It may very well be that you are correct that it is Jewish tradition. However, you should consider when the tradition started plus it certainly is a tradition that goes against the scriptures.

Moses the lawgiver married a non-Jewish woman or an Ethiopian woman. Do you know what happened to those who dared to oppose Moses?

Eric---Could be because Moses was not a Jew. He was a Hebrew. He was a Levite. He was an Israelite. He was never described in the Tanakh as a Jew.

HughBe--- Poor little Eric why are you trying to deceive yourself?

Lesson for today. The people called Hebrews were also at a later date called Israel or Israelites and are commonly called Jews today. This is the context so desist with your BS.

Your sideshow aside, the central point is that Almighty God called Moses FAITHFUL. Explain the meaning of FAITHFUL in the context of Moses marrying a non-Jew.

Are you saying that Jews got a set of commandments different from those given to Israel? Who gave the Jews a different set of commandments?

Even though you are not intelligent enough to understand your own words your words are suggesting 2 different set of rules. i.e. one for the Israelites and one for the Jews.
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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>All idolaters will be excommunicated from the land of Israel when the Messiah (God) comes. It's called the holy land for a reason and it will be a theocracy. All those who do not swear allegiance to God will be exiled. Both Jews and Gentiles will inhabit the land of Israel.
1. Israel was given to the physical descendants of Jacob/Israel.

2. All who are not seed/physical offspring should pack their bags and LEAVE Israel.
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By the way I love the song that I gave on the previous page.
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1. Israel was given to the physical descendants of Jacob/Israel.
2. All who are not seed/physical offspring should pack their bags and LEAVE Israel.
There's a lot more to the descendants of Israel than the Jews. God equated them with the stars of heaven, the sand on the shore and the dust of the earth. They will not all fit in Israel, which is basically the size of New Jersey. The children of Israel include all people of northwestern European descent. David will be the governor of Israel and the Messiah will be King of the Universe. Melech ha Olam.
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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>There's a lot more to the descendants of Israel than the Jews. God equated them with the stars of heaven, the sand on the shore and the dust of the earth. They will not all fit in Israel, which is basically the size of New Jersey. The children of Israel include all people of northwestern European descent. David will be the governor of Israel and the Messiah will be King of the Universe. Melech ha Olam.
SusanB---The children of Israel include all people of northwestern European descent

HughBe--- Is that the same place where Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came from?

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