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HughBe

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Nov 22, 2013
 
Uzi wrote:
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Interesting, are you trying to tell to almost 2 billion Christians that they came from the sewers?? Asshole.
By the way it could be a beautiful compliment cause jews did have a sewer system even in biblical times while the rest of the world including your mama were swimming in shit. Most arab muslim countries still dont have a sewer system, but you knew that. Thats were you crawled out of.
Uzi---the rest of the world including your mama were swimming in shit

HughBe--- I am sure that Joel's Jewish mother appreciates the sentiments.

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Nov 22, 2013
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Hugh, I'll make this easy for you. Tell me which of the following logical steps is not correct.
1. The Messiah prophesied by the bible must be a descendant of David
2. If the bible is to be believed, the ancestral link to David is through Joseph
3. Since Jesus was allegedly born of a virgin, he is not a blood relative of Joseph
4. Therefore, Jesus cannot be a descendent of David, and cannot be the Messiah
The only ways you can are resolve this are:
1. Jesus was not born of a virgin and is, in fact, the biological son of Joseph
or
2. You change the rules of heredity
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3. The prophesy about Jesus was wrong
So, which is it?
rabbee: no actually according to TheTorah, you all got it wrong. according to Only TheTorah, G-D ever gave to anyone. HaMosheeach has always been, TheSon of G-D called as Adam. always by some mysterious, virgin birth somehow. and if there is nobody here in TheTorah, when They arrive in One Flesh. G-D appears, to have Them as One put to death somehow. and are always returned as, adam and his mate separately.

and THEY are going to keep doing this, until there is somebody here in TheTorah to give GanEden to. G-D does not reward, talking critters who are never here in TheTorah. as you all claim to not be here, in Only TheTorah being given by G-D again. you are all evidence, of their being nobody here in TheTorah today. since your grandfather adam, is the only human being here in TheTorah today. all of you, are with the talking behemoth.

all of your other scriptures, are all written by fallible not here in TheTorah alleged as men. but i might add, they are all only as animals never here in TheTorah.

but according to their scriptures that Mereeam, is the name of Yeshooah Adam's surrogate mother who is a descendent of Daveed Melech. and since Yoseph is a descendant of Ahaz, cannot be Yeshooah Hoo VHee's (YHVH) biological father.

but no matter what, Adam is Hoo VHee(Redemption is He And She) is in THEIR OUR IMAGE, and LIKENESS of HaShem G-D. as all The True Names of G-D, reflect this HE/SHE UNITY in ONE G-D. so HaMosheeach, can never be anyone else but G-D'S Son Adam. because it says so in The Written Torah Scroll. and G-D has never lied about this here in always TheTorah in TheHappening.

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#63263
Nov 22, 2013
 
so i do not care what any of your new testaments say. they are all bearing false witness, against G-D actually here in TheTorah today.

and this is exactly what happened, the last time the subtle talking critters of the fields fooled you all into being their talking critters of their delusion diverse fields. sin is not inherited, but is taught from the rebellious subtle talking critters.

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Nov 22, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
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Do you know what has become of "Former"?
Catch you later.
He chose to "dissapear" for your sins

The biggest sin, of course, is being too chickensht to explain to us how Jesus descends from the House of David
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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He chose to "dissapear" for your sins
The biggest sin, of course, is being too chickensht to explain to us how Jesus descends from the House of David
HughBe---Do you know what has become of "Former"?

Frijoles---He chose to "dissapear" for your sins

HughBe--- And no doubt he shall become extinct for his own sins.

Frijoles---The biggest sin, of course, is being too chickensht to explain to us how Jesus descends from the House of David

HughBe--- The truth is had I believed that the information would be
beneficial to you all I would have shared it. You are just a bunch of curious little children without understanding.

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Nov 22, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
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He chose to "dissapear" for your sins
The biggest sin, of course, is being too chickensht to explain to us how Jesus descends from the House of David
rabbee: nah! he just probably, stepped away to pick a few more new testament cherries. he may have been, more than a few cherries short of a full load.

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#63267
Nov 22, 2013
 
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but not by Hugh's rules.
Hugh says that one has to be a biological Jew through one's father. Therefore, Jesus cannot rely upon Mary to be a Jew, because Mary is his mother. He can't rely on Joseph to be a Jew, because Joseph is not his biological father. If one accepts the New Testament, Jesus' father is not a Jew. Therefore, Jesus can't be a Jew according to Hugh. If you have a problem with that, take it up with Hugh. He has decided not to apply his own rules to Jesus.
Which raises the question: Is the God who started Judaism a Jew?

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Nov 22, 2013
 
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Research from some biased liberal quacks
Ah, yes. Every time the conservatives don't like what science shows, they whine about "liberal bias".

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Nov 22, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
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Joel---In an attempt to resolve this silly controversy that a braindead rat like COR is perpetuating for days, I'd like to know whether you consider JESUS the MESSIAH OF THE WHOLE WORLD or the MESSIAH OF ONLY THE JEWS?
HughBe--- Messiah of the WHOLE world.
Joel---If Jesus, in your view, was/is the MESSIAH OF THE WHOLE WORLD then it matters little whether Joseph, whose lineage goes back to the pervert David, was the biological father of Jesus or not.
Hugh---- It is because Jesus is the Messiah why Joseph could never have been his biological father.
Joel--- The WORLD MESSIAH can only be an incarnation of the DIVINE PRINCIPLE
Hugh---- That is Jesus.
Joel--- If you think that JESUS was/is the MESSIAH OF ONLY THE JEWS then obviously Jesus cannot be considered the Jewish messiah on grounds of lineage.
Hugh---- Only to those who lack the required understanding.
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So, you understand and agree that Jesus never fulfilled the Messianic prophecies of the Old Testament?
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Liam R wrote:
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So, you understand and agree that Jesus never fulfilled the Messianic prophecies of the Old Testament?
Yes, I understand and agree that Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies in the minds of the deceived.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Liam R wrote:
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Ah, yes. Every time the conservatives don't like what science shows, they whine about "liberal bias".
I agree except im not a conservative, dont results get skewed in favor of the policy flavor of the times?
Blacks are what? 3/5 human?
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Liam R wrote:
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Which raises the question: Is the God who started Judaism a Jew?
Judaism is a race, a member of the house of Judah. The only Jewish blood the Messiah will have is from David and his throne exists in Great Britain today. British is a Hebrew word that means "covenant people". The Messiah was supposed to be from the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim which is Norway. Genesis 49:24 "from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel". Joseph was to become a multitude of nations and a colonizing people. Genesis 48:15-22. They inhabit northwestern Europe which used to be called "free Europe". The Messiah is not Jewish.
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Uzi wrote:
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Interesting, are you trying to tell to almost 2 billion Christians that they came from the sewers?? Asshole.
By the way it could be a beautiful compliment cause jews did have a sewer system even in biblical times while the rest of the world including your mama were swimming in shit. Most arab muslim countries still dont have a sewer system, but you knew that. Thats were you crawled out of.
LOL Amen. Selah. Joel has been getting on my bad side lately. He used to consider me a prophet.
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HughBe wrote:
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Uzi---the rest of the world including your mama were swimming in shit
HughBe--- I am sure that Joel's Jewish mother appreciates the sentiments.
The parents shall not be put to death for the sins of the children, neither the children put to death for the sins of the parents, everyone will be put to death for his own sin.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
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Nov 23, 2013
 
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Judaism is a race, a member of the house of Judah. The only Jewish blood the Messiah will have is from David and his throne exists in Great Britain today. British is a Hebrew word that means "covenant people". The Messiah was supposed to be from the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim which is Norway. Genesis 49:24 "from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel". Joseph was to become a multitude of nations and a colonizing people. Genesis 48:15-22. They inhabit northwestern Europe which used to be called "free Europe". The Messiah is not Jewish.
SusanB---Judaism is a race

HughBe--- Hi Susan, when did the RACE Judaism come into existence?

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Joel has been getting on my bad side lately. He used to consider me a prophet.
Hello "Prophet Susan".

When is your next genocide?

How many human beings have you sacrificed till date?

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"Prophet Susan", had you been a male Prophet, I'd have asked you whether (like Abraham) would you have married your half-sister and procreated genetically abnormal progeny or to save your life would you have pimped your wife (the latter would indicate that you neither possess the Higher Power to protect yourself from your enemies nor the moral fiber to do good)?

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Nov 23, 2013
 
Meditation ceases once trance commences.

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There exist 200 odd states of trance.

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