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Going shopping. Bye.

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Voluntarist wrote:
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Sandy Hook cops ordered to stand down while blood bath was happening, just like columbine.
You are an idiot

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/...

"The head of the Newtown Police Union said that the order for first responders to wait before entering Sandy Hook Elementary School was directed toward ambulance personnel, not police officers.

Union president Scott Ruszczyk said it is "standard protocol not to send in unarmed people to a scene that is not secure.".."
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Nov 22, 2013
 
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Brilliant answer.
Now next time you ask me a question about some quote from torah, my frank response is that it doesnt matter because "I am comfortable with it"
Ironically, as a stand alone- I am perfectly comfortable with "I am comfortable" as an answer for all the questions you ask me
The problem, though, is that you (and I) have no right to question the logic of others while using that as a defense for your(my)self.
Also, lets now cut to the chase. What you are saying is that fundamentally all religion (including yours) is based NOT on logic but on faith. INCLUDING any interpretation of the bible such as the mitzvot. INCLUDING the creation of a messiah figure to actively worship or believe in that has no logical place or origin in the bible. Of course I am comfortable with that. I have been saying that all along.
HughBe---I can but I won't.
Why are you so tormented?
Can you not realize that in my mind I am comfortable?

Frijoles---Brilliant answer.

HughBe-- Thanks Frijoles but it is a gift. Besides I was simply being factual.

Frijoles---What you are saying is that fundamentally all religion (including yours) is based NOT on logic

HughBe--- No, I am not saying any such thing. Trust me when I tell you that this matter is COMPLETELY logical. Its logic is independent of their ability to understand it. As a general rule, something does not become illogical because anyone lacks the capacity to understand it.

Such is the case in this matter.
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Cognitive dissonance is no way to go through life. I didn't ask you if you were comfortable. I asked you how you avoid the discrepancy of logic regarding Jesus' genealogy.
Unless, of course, you are tacitly acknowledging the discrepancy and admiring that you are okay with that. Is that what you're doing?
Cunti---Cognitive dissonance is no way to go through life.

HughBe--- Please share your strategies that you have used to cope with that state all your life.

Cunti--- I didn't ask you if you were comfortable.

HughBe--- Correct and I did not say that you did. The fact is, I am comfortable and you a non-Christian are TORMENTED. So once again, why?

Cunti--- I asked you how you avoid the discrepancy of logic regarding Jesus' genealogy.

HughBe--- There are no discrepancies. The disconnect is in your mind. The logic and sense of the subject have escaped you.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
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So, can you call such cult leaders (prophets) enlightened if they behaved like common crooks and barbarians of their time and besides where is originality, depth and sublimity in their teachings?
List the prophets that behaved like common crooks and give examples of their crookedness.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
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G-d, prophets, Rabbis, maulvis, pandits, pastors and politicians have always taught hate in large measures.
So, why single out a certain section of rabbis for criticism?
Reread my post below. Now, who said that anyone was special? Highlight ALL nastiness and HATE taught by all.

I know that as a group the rabbis are special. Their sheep confirm this.

REREAD:

In OUR lifetime and I shall repeat it in OUR lifetime the rabbis have taught HATE. I am not going back to 4000 years ago to a time when the human family was not as "civilized" and condemn anyone of those era.

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HughBe--- No, I am not saying any such thing. Trust me when I tell you that this matter is COMPLETELY logical. Its logic is independent of their ability to understand it. As a general rule, something does not become illogical because anyone lacks the capacity to understand it.
Such is the case in this matter.
COR, Eric, and I are all ears

Start 'splaining....
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Within the past 2 years I came across a video where a rabbi was saying to the Jewish people come to Israel and live as the rest of the world don't want you in their country.

Now I call him a Satanic LIAR. There is no such attitude in Jamaica and I would say the Caribbean and we are a part of the world.

They,speaking collectively, teach HATE of all to the Jewish people.
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COR, Eric, and I are all ears
Start 'splaining....
Thanks for the reconfirmation. It requires brains and not ears. I shall pray that you find grace in the sight of the giver of brains.

You too can pray.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Must go.

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List the prophets that behaved like common crooks and give examples of their crookedness.
On account of the Demon they worshipped and due to the perversion in their own personalities, all the patriarchs were men of evil deeds - a case of birds of a feather flock together!

Do you think Moses was a spiritual person or a sorcerer with less brains and sadistic karma?

Do you think Abraham was good?

Do you think Jesus was sane and good?

BTW, can you list even 1 original and profound teaching of Abraham and Moses?

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Isaiah 26:13-14.

O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish". God only has one son and his name was Adam. Jesus is not Gods son.

The Lord is one. Deuteronomy 6:4.
Do you believe in this bullshit from the Hebrew Bible?

Aren't the teachings so perverted and nonspiritual?

Isn't the G-d of the Tanach evidently a Demon?

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I know that as a group the rabbis are special. Their sheep confirm this.
I find the rabbis less perverted when compared to both the satanic Babylonian-Hebrew deity, YHVH (Jehovah to you), and to those brainless witches, the patriarchs, who worshipped such a monstrosity.

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Thanks for the reconfirmation. It requires brains and not ears. I shall pray that you find grace in the sight of the giver of brains.
You too can pray.
In other words, you haven't got a clue how to explain it so you'll just continue to tap dance around it without even making an attempt - weak and lame.

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ANALYZING BULL SHIT FROM THE HEBREW BIBLE:

1) Isaiah 26:13-14.

"O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."

COMMENTS: An ignorant rant by a braindead tribalist glorying his G-d who he sees as "superior" to the Gods of other tribes. Praises are heaped on the murderous demon-deity for vanquishing/killing the rivals Gods.

Reminds me of bloodthirsty gangsters complimenting their gang leader for wrecking havoc, death and destruction on rival gang leaders in bloody street fights.


2) "The Lord is one."

Deuteronomy 6:4.

COMMENT: Another deluded claim coming from a perverted "prophet" who takes sadistic pleasure in the defeat and murder of the rival Gods. It's so hilarious and sickening.

What better can be expected from an evil cult like Judaism?

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Judaism is a cult of the sewers.

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COR, Eric, and I are all ears
Start 'splaining....
Hugh, I'll make this easy for you. Tell me which of the following logical steps is not correct.

1. The Messiah prophesied by the bible must be a descendant of David
2. If the bible is to be believed, the ancestral link to David is through Joseph
3. Since Jesus was allegedly born of a virgin, he is not a blood relative of Joseph
4. Therefore, Jesus cannot be a descendent of David, and cannot be the Messiah

The only ways you can are resolve this are:

1. Jesus was not born of a virgin and is, in fact, the biological son of Joseph
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2. You change the rules of heredity
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3. The prophesy about Jesus was wrong

So, which is it?

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If you mention one, you'll naturally have to mention 2, 3 and the rest. There's neither one reality nor a single reality. The words one and single indicate other entities in existence. The reality is absolute and its manifestation is the whole of existence.

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Thanks for the reconfirmation. It requires brains and not ears. I shall pray that you find grace in the sight of the giver of brains.
You too can pray.
And after you pray, I suggest you consult your church elders for the proper apologetics to this obviously glaring contradiction from the bible. Perhaps they can instruct you on how to explain something you are clearly incapable of doing on your own.

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