Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Yeah but reclaiming him not only sets the record straight. It also poses a direct threat to the self-concept and identity of some of the more lunatic of people who call themselves Christians. That is MUCH more fun to watch, IMO.
For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.

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rabbee: what do you mean by, Adam is never the only virgin birth?
Genesis that covers cosmology including the Adam/Eve story and the flood is fiction.

It is not even allegory.

It's bad fiction.

Whereas the story of Abraham and Sarah is immoral and sets a bad example that if taken too seriously can turn a morally sound person into a debased sub-human type.

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rabbee: well that's only because, there is no story. of the virgin giving birth, to the Buddha in the Torah.
Like Jesus, Buddha, too, was supposedly born to a virgin.

Of course, these are mere stories.

Before the Buddhist Canon, Torah comes across as a barbaric book invented by a barbarian and aimed at barbarians.

Buddha's teachings are limited but very refined and have a global perspective.

By the time, Jesus was born, Buddhist missionaries had reached the far Middle East and so it is a distinct possibility that Jesus was influenced by Buddhist thought in his childhood given the fact that many of his key teachings are direct lift-offs from Buddhist texts.

But, Jesus' compassion was conditional - follow me or be cursed.

However, Jesus' key teachings (despite being conditional and copied from Eastern mysticism) are nevertheless a great improvement over the teachings of Abraham, Moses, Elijah and other patriarchs for obvious reasons.

Buddha stands far above Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Elijah and the others.

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The answer is no.

Snake oils are available from your former masters or Frijoles.

I sell the oils listed below and more:

1. Oil of give me sense

2. Oil of maturity

3. Oil of removal of stupidity.
LOL.

Anyway, take care, and good luck to you and to your family.
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The point is which comes first in the world of human relations - kindness or judgement.
According to his messiah and god, judgment is not supposed to come at all.
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Do we have to use the "m" word?

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<quoted text>Do we have to use the "m" word?
Oh, I think it's appropriate.

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Sam Berns and progeria.

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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Believe me, I am aware of that. However, I think, at least for myself, its time to move on. The Christians are not a threat to us in anyway anymore. Radical Islam has moved into that role. And like I said, the best type of revenge is the truth anyhow. Lets consider him a teacher and own him.

Interestingly and not surprisingly, when Boteach's book came out, he was attacked in the press by other orthodox including some modern orthodox leaders, who also couldnt get past history and stereotypes long enough to understand Boteach's idea.

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<quoted text>According to his messiah and god, judgment is not supposed to come at all.
I know, as I said to Yoda a while back, the Christian teaching on the subject of homosexuality is to "turn the other cheek". Oops.
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I know, as I said to Yoda a while back, the Christian teaching on the subject of homosexuality is to "turn the other cheek". Oops.
I love it!

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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
How is that "momser" any more a myth than any other religious figure from the old testament? Or did I misunderstand your statement?
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You dont own the idea. It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage. You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.
HughBe---Do not do Jesus a favour.

Frijoles---You dont own the idea.

HughBe--- My Jesus is not an idea you moronic order, fellow.

Frijoles---It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage.

HughBe--- Spoken like the LIAR that you are.

Jesus is a part of my historical and cultural heritage in two ways.

First, He is a part and much more than a part but the CENTRAL figure of my Christian history and Christian culture. Every JACKASS in the world knows this to be true. Now, it speaks very poorly of you for not knowing it.

Tell me what is meant by the history of Christianity.

Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.

Second, although I am NOT a Jew it should not be beyond the ability of the feeble-minded like yourself and company to understand that my historical and cultural links are not only African but also Jewish.

My mother's father was a Jew.

In other words, I am not the product of only BLACKS. This is something that a serpent like you is aware of.

So now, explain to me how my cultural and historical links would have no connection to Jesus and Jews given that I have a Jewish grandfather, Jewish uncles and aunts , Jewish cousins etc.

Go right ahead, you brainless self-deceiver.

What is my culture and history, Einstein?

Frijoles--- You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.

HughBe--- Senseless, as usual.

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Correct.
Their Satan RULES in them and that is why they are "KIND", of scummy.
rabbee: well it is a lot like, being pretty ugly.

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HughBe---Do not do Jesus a favour.
Frijoles---You dont own the idea.
HughBe--- My Jesus is not an idea you moronic order, fellow.
Frijoles---It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage.
HughBe--- Spoken like the LIAR that you are.
Jesus is a part of my historical and cultural heritage in two ways.
First, He is a part and much more than a part but the CENTRAL figure of my Christian history and Christian culture. Every JACKASS in the world knows this to be true. Now, it speaks very poorly of you for not knowing it.
Tell me what is meant by the history of Christianity.
Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.
Second, although I am NOT a Jew it should not be beyond the ability of the feeble-minded like yourself and company to understand that my historical and cultural links are not only African but also Jewish.
My mother's father was a Jew.
In other words, I am not the product of only BLACKS. This is something that a serpent like you is aware of.
So now, explain to me how my cultural and historical links would have no connection to Jesus and Jews given that I have a Jewish grandfather, Jewish uncles and aunts , Jewish cousins etc.
Go right ahead, you brainless self-deceiver.
What is my culture and history, Einstein?
Frijoles--- You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.
HughBe--- Senseless, as usual.
Just be lucky we didnt TradeMark your God

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My mother's father was a Jew.
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No doubt your ancestors would be embarrassed to read your posts.

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How is that "momser" any more a myth than any other religious figure from the old testament? Or did I misunderstand your statement?
You might of misunderstood. Its not his issue that people have made a god out of a historical figure, or even whether that figure existed even as a normal person. However, it IS an issue to him that people has used that god as an excuse to slaughter his ancestors.

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But then again, Jesus WAS one of us before Hugbhe and the likes stole his history and developed a new cult of personality around the poor rebbe.
rabbee: wow that sounds a lot like, what the jews did with Moshe. to pervert themselves, out of being here in TheTorah. as it just had to be the only way, to help deceive this worlds grandmother chaooah again. and screw us all, out of GanEden again.

as the jews ignore all the pestilence, plague, and famine, G-D sent to keep your nobodies here in TheTorah numbers down. well it is all your fault, for not being here in TheTorah G-D is still giving. i am not about to feel sorry, for the jews who have kindled G-D'S anger against them. i feel more sorry, for the rest of the world you have all screwed doing this.

and G-D'S anger kindled against you, is not anti-semitism either. it is called, G-D'S Justice. G-D never did need, any of you as THEIR enemies here in TheTorah. G-D asked you all, to be true only to THEM here in TheTorah.
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Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.
Constantine's edit in 4th century CE.
Crusades
French expulsion in the 12th century CE
Alhambra Decree
Inquisition
Pogroms
Holocaust

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