Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62785 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Do we have to use the "m" word?

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#62786 Nov 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Do we have to use the "m" word?
Oh, I think it's appropriate.

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#62787 Nov 17, 2013
Sam Berns and progeria.

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#62788 Nov 17, 2013
Hugh Mogambo and snake oil.

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#62789 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Believe me, I am aware of that. However, I think, at least for myself, its time to move on. The Christians are not a threat to us in anyway anymore. Radical Islam has moved into that role. And like I said, the best type of revenge is the truth anyhow. Lets consider him a teacher and own him.

Interestingly and not surprisingly, when Boteach's book came out, he was attacked in the press by other orthodox including some modern orthodox leaders, who also couldnt get past history and stereotypes long enough to understand Boteach's idea.

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#62790 Nov 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>According to his messiah and god, judgment is not supposed to come at all.
I know, as I said to Yoda a while back, the Christian teaching on the subject of homosexuality is to "turn the other cheek". Oops.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62791 Nov 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I know, as I said to Yoda a while back, the Christian teaching on the subject of homosexuality is to "turn the other cheek". Oops.
I love it!

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#62792 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
How is that "momser" any more a myth than any other religious figure from the old testament? Or did I misunderstand your statement?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62793 Nov 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You dont own the idea. It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage. You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.
HughBe---Do not do Jesus a favour.

Frijoles---You dont own the idea.

HughBe--- My Jesus is not an idea you moronic order, fellow.

Frijoles---It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage.

HughBe--- Spoken like the LIAR that you are.

Jesus is a part of my historical and cultural heritage in two ways.

First, He is a part and much more than a part but the CENTRAL figure of my Christian history and Christian culture. Every JACKASS in the world knows this to be true. Now, it speaks very poorly of you for not knowing it.

Tell me what is meant by the history of Christianity.

Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.

Second, although I am NOT a Jew it should not be beyond the ability of the feeble-minded like yourself and company to understand that my historical and cultural links are not only African but also Jewish.

My mother's father was a Jew.

In other words, I am not the product of only BLACKS. This is something that a serpent like you is aware of.

So now, explain to me how my cultural and historical links would have no connection to Jesus and Jews given that I have a Jewish grandfather, Jewish uncles and aunts , Jewish cousins etc.

Go right ahead, you brainless self-deceiver.

What is my culture and history, Einstein?

Frijoles--- You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.

HughBe--- Senseless, as usual.

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Denver, CO

#62794 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Correct.
Their Satan RULES in them and that is why they are "KIND", of scummy.
rabbee: well it is a lot like, being pretty ugly.

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#62795 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe---Do not do Jesus a favour.
Frijoles---You dont own the idea.
HughBe--- My Jesus is not an idea you moronic order, fellow.
Frijoles---It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage.
HughBe--- Spoken like the LIAR that you are.
Jesus is a part of my historical and cultural heritage in two ways.
First, He is a part and much more than a part but the CENTRAL figure of my Christian history and Christian culture. Every JACKASS in the world knows this to be true. Now, it speaks very poorly of you for not knowing it.
Tell me what is meant by the history of Christianity.
Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.
Second, although I am NOT a Jew it should not be beyond the ability of the feeble-minded like yourself and company to understand that my historical and cultural links are not only African but also Jewish.
My mother's father was a Jew.
In other words, I am not the product of only BLACKS. This is something that a serpent like you is aware of.
So now, explain to me how my cultural and historical links would have no connection to Jesus and Jews given that I have a Jewish grandfather, Jewish uncles and aunts , Jewish cousins etc.
Go right ahead, you brainless self-deceiver.
What is my culture and history, Einstein?
Frijoles--- You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.
HughBe--- Senseless, as usual.
Just be lucky we didnt TradeMark your God

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#62796 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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My mother's father was a Jew.
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No doubt your ancestors would be embarrassed to read your posts.

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#62797 Nov 17, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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How is that "momser" any more a myth than any other religious figure from the old testament? Or did I misunderstand your statement?
You might of misunderstood. Its not his issue that people have made a god out of a historical figure, or even whether that figure existed even as a normal person. However, it IS an issue to him that people has used that god as an excuse to slaughter his ancestors.

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Denver, CO

#62798 Nov 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
But then again, Jesus WAS one of us before Hugbhe and the likes stole his history and developed a new cult of personality around the poor rebbe.
rabbee: wow that sounds a lot like, what the jews did with Moshe. to pervert themselves, out of being here in TheTorah. as it just had to be the only way, to help deceive this worlds grandmother chaooah again. and screw us all, out of GanEden again.

as the jews ignore all the pestilence, plague, and famine, G-D sent to keep your nobodies here in TheTorah numbers down. well it is all your fault, for not being here in TheTorah G-D is still giving. i am not about to feel sorry, for the jews who have kindled G-D'S anger against them. i feel more sorry, for the rest of the world you have all screwed doing this.

and G-D'S anger kindled against you, is not anti-semitism either. it is called, G-D'S Justice. G-D never did need, any of you as THEIR enemies here in TheTorah. G-D asked you all, to be true only to THEM here in TheTorah.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62799 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Is Jesus a part of your religious history? If yes, explain.
Constantine's edit in 4th century CE.
Crusades
French expulsion in the 12th century CE
Alhambra Decree
Inquisition
Pogroms
Holocaust

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#62800 Nov 17, 2013
RICHARD DAWKINS CONDEMNS YHVH:

1) "Yahweh: The God of the Old Testament (Tanach) is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

Richard Dawkins (The God Delusion)

2) "What makes my jaw drop is that people today should base their lives on such an appalling role model as Yahweh - and even worse, that they should bossily try to force the same evil monster (whether fact or fiction) on the rest of us."

3)"Moreover, this god, Yahweh, breaks into a monumental rage whenever his chosen people flirted with a rival god," resembling "nothing so much as sexual jealousy of the worst kind. Add to this the killing of the Canaanites-an 'ethnic cleansing' in which "bloodthirsty massacres" were carried out with 'xenophobic relish.' Joshua's destruction of Jericho is 'morally indistinguishable' from Hitler's invasion of Poland, or Saddam Hussein's massacres of the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs."

And more.....

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#62801 Nov 17, 2013
HIGHLIGHT:

Add to this the killing of the Canaanites-an 'ethnic cleansing' in which "bloodthirsty massacres" were carried out with 'xenophobic relish.'

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#62802 Nov 17, 2013
MORE:

Joshua's destruction of Jericho is 'morally indistinguishable' from Hitler's invasion of Poland, or Saddam Hussein's massacres of the Kurds and the Marsh Arabs."

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#62803 Nov 17, 2013
MORAL - WHERE JEWISH SUFFERING FOR 2000 YEARS IS CONCERNED:

The Jews have been killed and persecuted for millennia as part of the mechanism of - AS YOU SOW, SO SHALL YOU REAP.

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#62804 Nov 17, 2013
Natural justice ultimately catches up with wrongdoers.

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