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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62730 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe---I had a dream and it went like this. Rabbi Eric, appointed me as a fellow rabbi. My mandate was to get converts. So I would visit the loos looking for men with the biggest dicks with the aim of converting them. When this was done I do the STANDARD thing of circumcising them and then sucking their dicks.
Then I woke up.
Eric---Prove it is standard. Non-orthodox Jews--the vast majority of Jews--don't do it.
HughBe--- Are you saying that it is not STANDARD among ORTHODOX members of Judaism?
Can something be STANDARD for a sect of Christianity but not standard for most of the other sects?
Normally I would strike you down for referring to me and the orthodoxy in the thought pattern.

However, I will instead marvel that you finally got it. Just because something is standard for one sect/movement of a religion doesn't mean it is standard for all sects of that movement. Congratulations on your finally cleaning the cobwebs from your brain and coming to sanity.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62731 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Do you have a picture of yourself on your facebook page?
Yes, but I protect my facebook page from the like of you. One can't find my facebook page and picture because of the measures I have taken.

Jimmie, however, decided not to take such measures. For years he used his own name, allowing anyone to find him on the internet. We saw pictures of him on webpages of the Denver news. More recently he and I discussed his facebook page which gave the true version of his life as opposed to the one he originally told on Topix.

You are at least 2 years behind the times. But that is not news either.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62732 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---How bizarre to take issue with kindness.
HughBe--- What is bizarre is your capacity to LIE and to DECEIVE. The issue is not one of kindness, Judahite, it is one of DISOBEDIENCE and REBELLION against the law of G-d.
Oh, and I suppose that YOU are never disobedience against the law of G-d? You hypocrite.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#62733 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct and it takes a good level of sense to be able to make jokes from the utterances of the average.
rabbee: the average of this world, is a joke against G-D here in The Torah.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62734 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Oh, and I suppose that YOU are never disobedience against the law of G-d? You hypocrite.
Listen well, you material. YOU are a hypocrite among other things. I have NEVER claimed perfection or even righteousness.

What I have claimed and what is true is that I am a witness of TRUTH. This means that I shall not call my disobedience KINDNESS. It also means that I shall not condone the VIOLATION of God's law by anyone.

Note, the matter is a bit above your head so take your time and follow me. The issue is not ONLY violation it is a matter of LYING CORRUPT violation that is taught to the simple, like you, as a way of life.

So anyone can violate God's laws and indeed everyone does including your perfect masters. However, when the violation is taught and PRACTICED then that is an entirely different matter. That is now PRESUMPTUOUS rebellion and evil. All these are things that you are guilty of.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#62735 Nov 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Nothing personal, but I dont believe in the same God that you dont believe in, so we lack a common frame of reference.
rabbee: yes you believe in other g-ds, than the G-D of Moshe. as i do not believe in your g-d as halooseefer, the homosexual g-d. no offence but your rebellion against G-D is very personal to The His HaMosheeach son adam.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62736 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Yes, but I protect my facebook page from the like of you. One can't find my facebook page and picture because of the measures I have taken.
Jimmie, however, decided not to take such measures. For years he used his own name, allowing anyone to find him on the internet. We saw pictures of him on webpages of the Denver news. More recently he and I discussed his facebook page which gave the true version of his life as opposed to the one he originally told on Topix.
You are at least 2 years behind the times. But that is not news either.
1. I see that you have an allergy to what is good.This is not news.

2. Speaking of your favourite topic i.e. behind, you are a lifetime behind TRUTH and all that is GODLY.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62737 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Normally I would strike you down for referring to me and the orthodoxy in the thought pattern.
However, I will instead marvel that you finally got it. Just because something is standard for one sect/movement of a religion doesn't mean it is standard for all sects of that movement. Congratulations on your finally cleaning the cobwebs from your brain and coming to sanity.
1. I understand.

2. Call it grace.

3. I look forward to the day when you truly repent of all of your evil ways including "KINDNESS"

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#62738 Nov 16, 2013
you know the alleged as jews*, have always been against G-D here in The Torah.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62739 Nov 16, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: the average of this world, is a joke against G-D here in The Torah.
Your words are confirmed by the likes of Eric.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62740 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen well, you material. YOU are a hypocrite among other things. I have NEVER claimed perfection or even righteousness.
What I have claimed and what is true is that I am a witness of TRUTH. This means that I shall not call my disobedience KINDNESS. It also means that I shall not condone the VIOLATION of God's law by anyone.
Note, the matter is a bit above your head so take your time and follow me. The issue is not ONLY violation it is a matter of LYING CORRUPT violation that is taught to the simple, like you, as a way of life.
So anyone can violate God's laws and indeed everyone does including your perfect masters. However, when the violation is taught and PRACTICED then that is an entirely different matter. That is now PRESUMPTUOUS rebellion and evil. All these are things that you are guilty of.
Listen, you self-righteous mope. You condone the breaking of G-d's laws everyday by your unapologetic breaking of the same. You break G-d's laws by your casting aspersions on others while forgetting your own irreverent actions.

And now, you are forgetting your own statements. Remember your statement about applying the standards of one sects upon the total religion?

F---ing hypocrite.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#62741 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---How bizarre to take issue with kindness.
HughBe--- What is bizarre is your capacity to LIE and to DECEIVE. The issue is not one of kindness, Judahite, it is one of DISOBEDIENCE and REBELLION against the law of God.
You and your fellow sheep are truly OBSERVANT but of the wishes of your masters or rabbis.
However, none of you are OBSERVANT, of the Tanakh.
The RULES of your masters are OBEYED at the expense of the Law of God. God says, HOMOSEXUALITY is an ABOMINATION. You in your attempt to NULLIFY the law of God attach the word kindness in order to condone the SINFUL practice. You are sick spiritually at the very least.
Frijoles---You are an embarrassment to Jesus.
HughBe--- God shall bruise your head shortly.
Frijoles--- He taught kindness too.
HughBe--- Listen well rear specialist, Jesus NEVER taught that Homosexuality is right. YOUR masters or rabbis do.
Frijoles--- I am sure he didnt waste any time berating gay sex.
HughBe--- I am sure He condemned ALL sins even if forgiveness was extended.
Frijoles---- Unlike you, he had better, more meaningful, and more important things to do with his life.
HughBe---- Yes boy, He died for your sins and for the sins of all homosexuals including those of your rabbis who are of that appetite.
Frijoles---In your spare time you should study the concept of B'tzelem Elohim. Once you understand it maybe you will be fit to practice it.
HughBe--- All I need to practice is TRUTH. That is found in the scriptures. Try it.
Now, go back and study what comes below the dotted line.
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rabbee: so according to you, G-D is the liar. since G-D always claimed that homosexuality, is considered a most repugnant and grotesque abnormality to THEM. what is your ulterior motive, for hating G-D and lusting for the lies of halooseefer?
Frijoles---MY ulterior motive is to be a nice person. Sorry if that offends anyone.
HughBe---Your approach is certainly consistent with the MADNESS of your rabbis i.e. peace is more important that LOYALTY to God.
Simplifying, being a "nice person" takes priority over OBSERVING God's Law, in your book. You need to become OBSERVANT, of God's laws.
Frijoles---MY religion teaches us to act GODLY,
HughBe--- My DECEIVED son, YOU cannot act GODLY by TRANSGRESSING God's Laws including the law AGAINST homosexuality. The HOG ShiT taught by your rabbis CANNOT make you GODLY it makes you UNRIGHTEOUS and REBELLIOUS.
Frijoles--- and I think Jesus taught the same.
HughBe--- MY Jesus NEVER taught anyone to disobey the commandments. Speak no more about MY Jesus as you know nothing about Him.
Frijoles---How being a mensch offends you is beyond me.
HughBe--- Clearly you do not know the meaning of offend. Your stupid and UNGODLY utterances are to be pitied.
rabbee: beware of hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer, who are such nice persons against G-D.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#62742 Nov 16, 2013
jus what is being nice to, the enemies of G-D about?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62743 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen, you self-righteous mope. You condone the breaking of G-d's laws everyday by your unapologetic breaking of the same. You break G-d's laws by your casting aspersions on others while forgetting your own irreverent actions.
And now, you are forgetting your own statements. Remember your statement about applying the standards of one sects upon the total religion?
F---ing hypocrite.
You are confusing me with your masters and I say this because of your words i.e. F---ing hypocrite.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62744 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I understand.
2. Call it grace.
3. I look forward to the day when you truly repent of all of your evil ways including "KINDNESS"
Never equate kindness with being evil or un-G-dly. Your messiah and god was asked to name the greatest commandments. After the Sh'ma he said, "And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’" Then he said, "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Therefore, before all other commandments after the Sh'ma, kindness is the next. Because that is to love your neighbor as yourself.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62745 Nov 16, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: beware of hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer, who are such nice persons against G-D.
Correct.

Their Satan RULES in them and that is why they are "KIND", of scummy.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62746 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---How bizarre to take issue with kindness.
HughBe--- What is bizarre is your capacity to LIE and to DECEIVE. The issue is not one of kindness, Judahite, it is one of DISOBEDIENCE and REBELLION against the law of God.
You and your fellow sheep are truly OBSERVANT but of the wishes of your masters or rabbis.
However, none of you are OBSERVANT, of the Tanakh.
The RULES of your masters are OBEYED at the expense of the Law of God. God says, HOMOSEXUALITY is an ABOMINATION. You in your attempt to NULLIFY the law of God attach the word kindness in order to condone the SINFUL practice. You are sick spiritually at the very least.
Frijoles---You are an embarrassment to Jesus.
HughBe--- God shall bruise your head shortly.
Frijoles--- He taught kindness too.
HughBe--- Listen well rear specialist, Jesus NEVER taught that Homosexuality is right. YOUR masters or rabbis do.
Frijoles--- I am sure he didnt waste any time berating gay sex.
HughBe--- I am sure He condemned ALL sins even if forgiveness was extended.
Frijoles---- Unlike you, he had better, more meaningful, and more important things to do with his life.
HughBe---- Yes boy, He died for your sins and for the sins of all homosexuals including those of your rabbis who are of that appetite.
Frijoles---In your spare time you should study the concept of B'tzelem Elohim. Once you understand it maybe you will be fit to practice it.
HughBe--- All I need to practice is TRUTH. That is found in the scriptures. Try it.
Now, go back and study what comes below the dotted line.
----------
rabbee: so according to you, G-D is the liar. since G-D always claimed that homosexuality, is considered a most repugnant and grotesque abnormality to THEM. what is your ulterior motive, for hating G-D and lusting for the lies of halooseefer?
Frijoles---MY ulterior motive is to be a nice person. Sorry if that offends anyone.
HughBe---Your approach is certainly consistent with the MADNESS of your rabbis i.e. peace is more important that LOYALTY to God.
Simplifying, being a "nice person" takes priority over OBSERVING God's Law, in your book. You need to become OBSERVANT, of God's laws.
Frijoles---MY religion teaches us to act GODLY,
HughBe--- My DECEIVED son, YOU cannot act GODLY by TRANSGRESSING God's Laws including the law AGAINST homosexuality. The HOG ShiT taught by your rabbis CANNOT make you GODLY it makes you UNRIGHTEOUS and REBELLIOUS.
Frijoles--- and I think Jesus taught the same.
HughBe--- MY Jesus NEVER taught anyone to disobey the commandments. Speak no more about MY Jesus as you know nothing about Him.
Frijoles---How being a mensch offends you is beyond me.
HughBe--- Clearly you do not know the meaning of offend. Your stupid and UNGODLY utterances are to be pitied.
I agree with Eric. You are a hypocrite- you break the laws of your bible every week, but yet you are quick to condemn others.

As of abomination, Jesus, if he was half the mensch you Christians claim he was, like most normal people, would of appreciated context. He would of preached kindness and acceptance, and NEVER wasted his breath berating others for their sexual proclivities.

Some day we will get you to study the text in the native language, so you will learn the meaning of the word you glibly communicate as abomination.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#62747 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Never equate kindness with being evil or un-G-dly. Your messiah and god was asked to name the greatest commandments. After the Sh'ma he said, "And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’" Then he said, "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Therefore, before all other commandments after the Sh'ma, kindness is the next. Because that is to love your neighbor as yourself.
But according to Hughbe, Jesus spent his time criticizing others, especially their sexual habits, rather than preaching kindness. The sad part is I think Hughbe really believes this, or he would not of thrown the tantrum he just did.

Ironic that two Jews here have to explain Jesus to a supposed Christian. But then again, I never really thought of Hughbe as a follower of Jesus's teachings anyhow.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62748 Nov 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
But according to Hughbe, Jesus spent his time criticizing others, especially their sexual habits, rather than preaching kindness. The sad part is I think Hughbe really believes this, or he would not of thrown the tantrum he just did.
Ironic that two Jews here have to explain Jesus to a supposed Christian. But then again, I never really thought of Hughbe as a follower of Jesus's teachings anyhow.
Jesus was an extremely religious Jew whose followers perverted his message after his death.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62749 Nov 16, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Never equate kindness with being evil or un-G-dly. Your messiah and god was asked to name the greatest commandments. After the Sh'ma he said, "And the second is like it:‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’" Then he said, "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Therefore, before all other commandments after the Sh'ma, kindness is the next. Because that is to love your neighbor as yourself.
1.I have no god.

2.Your "god" is actually your Maker and Messiah but you are too DECEIVED and STUPID to know it.

3. It is UNKIND and EVIL to tell anyone, including your enemy, that his wrong is acceptable to God. Homosexuality is wrong.

4. Do you really understand your own words? Explain them and in particular these. "Never equate kindness with being evil"

Help: Is breaking God's laws EVIL or kindness, rabbi?

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