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Nov 13, 2013
 
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What is risky about gay sexual behavior? Are you assuming that none of it is safe sex? How can you make that assumption?
Dont give me the poppycock about 1000 of partners. That is just a plain stupid notion.
There is no such thing as 100% safe sex so any increase in activity is an increased risk, that is why drivers who drive on the roads more than others will pay more for their increased risk of an accident.

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Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>...who is the judge of legitimacy?
Ummmm .... Actual judges. You know those folks who administer our laws?
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Ummmm .... Actual judges. You know those folks who administer our laws?
And what makes those judges legitimate? and try not to use circular logic.
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Nov 13, 2013
 
Does anybody have bravelle?

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Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>And what makes those judges legitimate? and try not to use circular logic.
Because we, as a society, believe having laws is generally a good thing. Lawless societies have existed in the past and they are generally considered to be failures.

If you want to have laws you need a legal system to interpret and enforce those laws. Our societal desire to have laws means we have to authorize persons to perform the functions of our legal system. So WE, members of said society have legitimized that authority.

Now you personally might not recognize the need for laws in a society so you have a few options.

Gather enough like-minded individuals to force a societal change or eschew current society and found your own society somewhere else - recognizing of course that if you have interactions with other societies you must conform to their laws.

Hope that wasn't too circular for you.

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So thats what this is all about? You feel slighted?

Jeez, if you had any fragment of self respect about your own views you wouldnt bother tilting at windmills.
Slighted?

LOL.

Stop your nonsense.

Had you a little intelligence, you'd have inquired more about my experience with the supramental and its manifestation in the body instead of outright condemnation which is a tool adopted by mentally deficient people, while, on the other hand, you never condemn those insane bull shitters of Torah with their demon G-d and sky high sorcery and ignorance.

Torah and its teachings and its patriarchs and El are riff raff before the supramental yoga and its capacities.

If after making a few inquiries about the supramental experiences, had you still remained skeptical, I'd not have minded.

As I said, you lack even the most ordinary intelligence whereas your lack of intelligence, bigotry and sense of unfairness are sky high.

You're heading for destruction in your petty earnings, health and relationships if you don't change and this time when the force of destruction settles in your aura I am in a good mind not to dissolve it which I usually do.

Anyway, relax and learn.

We, including El or YHVH and Moshe and Avraham and Maimonides, are all learners till the end.

The Absolute is way off...

Take care.

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If you spend a lot of money for dirt, rocks, wood , nails and cement there is something wrong in your head.
Where else will the middle class people go? Outside the city of Mumbai? Or to the poor areas that are well slightly better than slums?

A decent 800 square feet to 1000 square feet apartment in an upwardly mobile middle class locality in say Central Mumbai is priced at $ 1 million dollars or more.

Those 800 square feet to 1000 square feet middle class apartments in the Campa Cola apartment block that I mentioned cost between $ 1 million to $ 1.5 million at present property prices.

Apartments in the elite areas of Mumbai like Breach Candy, Warden Road, Altamount Road, Malabar Hill, Cuffe Parade, Walkeshwar, Nepeansea Road and so on are mostly in the $ 10 million per apartment range or way above $ 10 million depending on several customized factors.

Perhaps, real estate in Mumbai's upscale Malabar Hill is the most expensive in the world but the people living there are well uber-swank and uber-classy.

BTW, the kindergarten section of Cathedral School is located on a beautiful campus in Malabar Hill.
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Because we, as a society, believe having laws is generally a good thing. Lawless societies have existed in the past and they are generally considered to be failures.
If you want to have laws you need a legal system to interpret and enforce those laws. Our societal desire to have laws means we have to authorize persons to perform the functions of our legal system. So WE, members of said society have legitimized that authority.
Now you personally might not recognize the need for laws in a society so you have a few options.
Gather enough like-minded individuals to force a societal change or eschew current society and found your own society somewhere else - recognizing of course that if you have interactions with other societies you must conform to their laws.
Hope that wasn't too circular for you.
I have a problem with your use of the word "we", who is we?
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Where else will the middle class people go? Outside the city of Mumbai? Or to the poor areas that are well slightly better than slums?
A decent 800 square feet to 1000 square feet apartment in an upwardly mobile middle class locality in say Central Mumbai is priced at $ 1 million dollars or more.
Those 800 square feet to 1000 square feet middle class apartments in the Campa Cola apartment block that I mentioned cost between $ 1 million to $ 1.5 million at present property prices.
Apartments in the elite areas of Mumbai like Breach Candy, Warden Road, Altamount Road, Malabar Hill, Cuffe Parade, Walkeshwar, Nepeansea Road and so on are mostly in the $ 10 million per apartment range or way above $ 10 million depending on several customized factors.
Perhaps, real estate in Mumbai's upscale Malabar Hill is the most expensive in the world but the people living there are well uber-swank and uber-classy.
BTW, the kindergarten section of Cathedral School is located on a beautiful campus in Malabar Hill.
That sounds just wonderful but you are still talking about dirt, wood and cement and I fail to see how your dirt, wood and cement could be worth anymore than my dirt wood and cement, please explain.

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...who is we?
The first-person plural?

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That sounds just wonderful but you are still talking about dirt, wood and cement and I fail to see how your dirt, wood and cement could be worth anymore than my dirt wood and cement, please explain.
For someone who claims to be Libertarian you seem shockingly uniformed on how a free market operated to achieve market value.

Your perception seems to have more in common with Karl Marx than with Adam Smith.

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Well truth is stranger than fiction, who is the judge of legitimacy?
Which is precisely why there is no reason not to consider gay people as "normal".

Where would you draw the line as normal, anyhow? Would masochosm be normal as long as it was straight masochism? Would plain vanilla be normal as long as you sampled Americans?

Dont you realize that by wedding your moral concept to numbers and ditributions, the choice of population type and size become a major subjective issue?

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As I said, you lack even the most ordinary intelligence whereas your lack of intelligence, bigotry and sense of unfairness are sky high.
Doofus, I have been reading your same BS for a number of years here, so it shouldnt be a shock to you that I ignore it.

I might add that by your own admittance, your path is a lousy path.

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There is no such thing as 100% safe sex so any increase in activity is an increased risk, that is why drivers who drive on the roads more than others will pay more for their increased risk of an accident.
So I get that you are defining risk in terms to risk to getting a std. Ok - I can work with that.

Ummm...but isnt sex with a condom SAFER than sex without?

Again, why do you assume that gay sex is any less safe than straight sex. Where do you get your info on this? Experience?

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Perhaps, real estate in Mumbai's upscale Malabar Hill is the most expensive in the world but the people living there are well uber-swank and uber-classy.
Any think that requires the addition "uber" to it can not be very swank or classy.

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I might add that by your own admittance, your path is a lousy path.
By my own admittance?

Did I ever say that the epoch-breaking supramental yoga is lousy?

When did I say it? Tell me.

Before the supramental yoga, Torah is garbage and barbaric.

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Any think that requires the addition "uber" to it can not be very swank or classy.
Malabar Hill in South Mumbai is the height of swank and class, hence the use of the adjective "uber" to stress on these superlative aspects that define Malabar Hill.

Stick to your $ 10,000, tiny 2 bedroom shack.

Given your impoverishment, lack of class and filthy bigotry, you'll be booed out of Malabar Hill (MH) if you happen to visit.

Riff raff are unwelcome in a place like MH.

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By my own admittance?
Did I ever say that the epoch-breaking supramental yoga is lousy?
When did I say it? Tell me.
Before the supramental yoga, Torah is garbage and barbaric.
You spend most of your time here pining about your health, and spent a significant amount of verbiage disavowing your path with your "Master". At best, you are a terrible role model.

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Malabar Hill in South Mumbai is the height of swank and class, hence the use of the adjective "uber" to stress on these superlative aspects that define Malabar Hill.
Stick to your $ 10,000, tiny 2 bedroom shack.
Given your impoverishment, lack of class and filthy bigotry, you'll be booed out of Malabar Hill (MH) if you happen to visit.
Riff raff are unwelcome in a place like MH.
If you have to brag about it, you are definitely not classy.

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