Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Voluntarist

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#62562 Nov 13, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Because we, as a society, believe having laws is generally a good thing. Lawless societies have existed in the past and they are generally considered to be failures.
If you want to have laws you need a legal system to interpret and enforce those laws. Our societal desire to have laws means we have to authorize persons to perform the functions of our legal system. So WE, members of said society have legitimized that authority.
Now you personally might not recognize the need for laws in a society so you have a few options.
Gather enough like-minded individuals to force a societal change or eschew current society and found your own society somewhere else - recognizing of course that if you have interactions with other societies you must conform to their laws.
Hope that wasn't too circular for you.
I have a problem with your use of the word "we", who is we?
Voluntarist

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#62563 Nov 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Where else will the middle class people go? Outside the city of Mumbai? Or to the poor areas that are well slightly better than slums?
A decent 800 square feet to 1000 square feet apartment in an upwardly mobile middle class locality in say Central Mumbai is priced at $ 1 million dollars or more.
Those 800 square feet to 1000 square feet middle class apartments in the Campa Cola apartment block that I mentioned cost between $ 1 million to $ 1.5 million at present property prices.
Apartments in the elite areas of Mumbai like Breach Candy, Warden Road, Altamount Road, Malabar Hill, Cuffe Parade, Walkeshwar, Nepeansea Road and so on are mostly in the $ 10 million per apartment range or way above $ 10 million depending on several customized factors.
Perhaps, real estate in Mumbai's upscale Malabar Hill is the most expensive in the world but the people living there are well uber-swank and uber-classy.
BTW, the kindergarten section of Cathedral School is located on a beautiful campus in Malabar Hill.
That sounds just wonderful but you are still talking about dirt, wood and cement and I fail to see how your dirt, wood and cement could be worth anymore than my dirt wood and cement, please explain.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#62564 Nov 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
...who is we?
The first-person plural?

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#62565 Nov 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
That sounds just wonderful but you are still talking about dirt, wood and cement and I fail to see how your dirt, wood and cement could be worth anymore than my dirt wood and cement, please explain.
For someone who claims to be Libertarian you seem shockingly uniformed on how a free market operated to achieve market value.

Your perception seems to have more in common with Karl Marx than with Adam Smith.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62566 Nov 14, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Well truth is stranger than fiction, who is the judge of legitimacy?
Which is precisely why there is no reason not to consider gay people as "normal".

Where would you draw the line as normal, anyhow? Would masochosm be normal as long as it was straight masochism? Would plain vanilla be normal as long as you sampled Americans?

Dont you realize that by wedding your moral concept to numbers and ditributions, the choice of population type and size become a major subjective issue?

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#62567 Nov 14, 2013
distributions

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#62568 Nov 14, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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As I said, you lack even the most ordinary intelligence whereas your lack of intelligence, bigotry and sense of unfairness are sky high.
Doofus, I have been reading your same BS for a number of years here, so it shouldnt be a shock to you that I ignore it.

I might add that by your own admittance, your path is a lousy path.

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#62569 Nov 14, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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There is no such thing as 100% safe sex so any increase in activity is an increased risk, that is why drivers who drive on the roads more than others will pay more for their increased risk of an accident.
So I get that you are defining risk in terms to risk to getting a std. Ok - I can work with that.

Ummm...but isnt sex with a condom SAFER than sex without?

Again, why do you assume that gay sex is any less safe than straight sex. Where do you get your info on this? Experience?

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#62570 Nov 14, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Perhaps, real estate in Mumbai's upscale Malabar Hill is the most expensive in the world but the people living there are well uber-swank and uber-classy.
Any think that requires the addition "uber" to it can not be very swank or classy.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62571 Nov 14, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I might add that by your own admittance, your path is a lousy path.
By my own admittance?

Did I ever say that the epoch-breaking supramental yoga is lousy?

When did I say it? Tell me.

Before the supramental yoga, Torah is garbage and barbaric.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62572 Nov 14, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Any think that requires the addition "uber" to it can not be very swank or classy.
Malabar Hill in South Mumbai is the height of swank and class, hence the use of the adjective "uber" to stress on these superlative aspects that define Malabar Hill.

Stick to your $ 10,000, tiny 2 bedroom shack.

Given your impoverishment, lack of class and filthy bigotry, you'll be booed out of Malabar Hill (MH) if you happen to visit.

Riff raff are unwelcome in a place like MH.

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#62574 Nov 14, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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By my own admittance?
Did I ever say that the epoch-breaking supramental yoga is lousy?
When did I say it? Tell me.
Before the supramental yoga, Torah is garbage and barbaric.
You spend most of your time here pining about your health, and spent a significant amount of verbiage disavowing your path with your "Master". At best, you are a terrible role model.

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#62575 Nov 14, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Malabar Hill in South Mumbai is the height of swank and class, hence the use of the adjective "uber" to stress on these superlative aspects that define Malabar Hill.
Stick to your $ 10,000, tiny 2 bedroom shack.
Given your impoverishment, lack of class and filthy bigotry, you'll be booed out of Malabar Hill (MH) if you happen to visit.
Riff raff are unwelcome in a place like MH.
If you have to brag about it, you are definitely not classy.

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#62576 Nov 14, 2013
Or swank.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62577 Nov 14, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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That sounds just wonderful but you are still talking about dirt, wood and cement and I fail to see how your dirt, wood and cement could be worth anymore than my dirt wood and cement, please explain.
Humans imbue with emotions and care this structure of dirt, cement, nails and wood that is called a house and so in a sense a house is an organic entity or an extension of human personality.

In other words, the house gets stamped with the personalities - psychological, emotional, physical and material forces/resources - of the people calling the structure home.

In Mumbai, land is scarce and the pressure of population on land is high and besides it is the economic capital of the nation and home to many of the richest people in the world and since many decades real estate prices here are among the highest in the world with the cost of residential property in Malabar Hill (MH), especially along the Little Gibbs Road and Ridge Road sections, being perhaps the highest in the world. Billionaires and multi-millionaires stay here and the style, poise, class, attitude, intelligence, education levels, luxury and wealth on display are to be seen to be understood - everything is uber in MH. Even most elite Americans would feel out of place in a highly classy place like MH.

Ill-educated and impoverished American Mom and Pop shop owners would run away out of inferiority on seeing the ambiance and people.

BTW, do you own and run a Mom and Pop shop in the US where you live?

(smiles)

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62578 Nov 14, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You spend most of your time here pining about your health, and spent a significant amount of verbiage disavowing your path with your "Master". At best, you are a terrible role model.
What nonsense.

You're an imbecile.

I have always said that my ill-health is brought on by repeated adverse force attacks engineered by the asura forces like YHVH, Allah, Moloch, Lam, Baphomet, Jesus, Muhammad, Hanuman and others who I have exposed as shit pies.

My ex-master who is a sorcerer has been mercilessly targeting me since Dec 2012 through occult means and so the aggravated suffering.

My ex-master has nothing to do with the supramental yoga - he's way below it and lacks the innate capacity to reach out for it and given his demonic nature, well, the supramental force will never venture near him no matter how hard he tries to draw it towards himself.

The supramental yoga has been gifted to me by Sri Aurobindo and the Mother who have appeared to me in waking trances on a few occasions.....

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#62579 Nov 14, 2013
ambience, not ambiance

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#62580 Nov 14, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Or swank.
Who uses the word "swank" any more? Sounds like someone auditioning for a community theatre production of "Guys and Dolls".

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#62581 Nov 14, 2013
RITUAL ANAL SEX ABUSE OF KIDS AMONG ULTRA-ORTHODOX JEWS:

In Ritual Bathhouses of the Jewish Orthodoxy, Children Are Systematically Abused

By Christopher Ketcham

Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn’s Hasidic community – the largest in the United States and one of the largest in the world – have been victims of sexual assault perpetrated by their elders. Ben Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that advocates for Orthodox sex abuse victims, thinks the real number is higher.“From anecdotal evidence, we’re looking at over 50 percent. It has almost become a rite of passage.”

.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-child -rape-assembly-line-0000141-v2 0n11

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62583 Nov 14, 2013
EXCERPT FROM THE LINK ON ANAL SEX ABUSE OF JEWISH KIDS:

On a visit to Jerusalem in 2005, Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city, Mea She’arim.“I opened a door that entered into a schvitz,” he told me.“Vapors everywhere, I can barely see. My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”

Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on:“This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face – fear. The old man [looked at me] without any fear, as if this was common practice. He didn’t stop. I was so angry, I confronted him. He removed the boy from his penis, and I took the boy aside. I told this man,‘It’s a sin before God, a mishkovzucher. What are you doing to this boy’s soul? You’re destroying this boy!’ He had a sponge on a stick to clean his back, and he hit me across the face with it.‘How dare you interrupt me!’ he said. I had heard of these things for a long time, but now I had seen.

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