Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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yehoshooah adam

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#62217 Nov 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But Benjamin Franklin, author of the essay "Fart Proudly", would have fit right in.
rabbee: no i do not think, he would approve of obama and the democratic farty.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#62218 Nov 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
I have an invite to visit the Thigh Bar, yes, the Thigh Bar, but I have no wish of "thighing" anyone. LOL.
rabbee: oh! thigh.

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#62220 Nov 8, 2013
I am saddened...

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#62221 Nov 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But Benjamin Franklin, author of the essay "Fart Proudly", would have fit right in.

.....Franklin believed that the various academic societies in Europe were increasingly pretentious and concerned with the impractical. Revealing his "bawdy, scurrilous side," [3] Franklin responded with an essay suggesting that research and practical reasoning be undertaken into methods of improving the odor of human flatulence.[1]

....The essay goes on to discuss the way different foods affect the odor of flatulence and to propose scientific testing of farting. Franklin also suggests that scientists work to develop a drug, "holesome and not disagreeable", which can be mixed with "common Food or Sauces" with the effect of rendering flatulence "not only inoffensive, but agreeable as Perfumes".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_Proudly

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#62222 Nov 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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But Benjamin Franklin, author of the essay "Fart Proudly", would have fit right in.
I would think that I would be uniquely qualified to offer my comments on this matter as well.

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#62223 Nov 8, 2013
A girl prostitute aged 6 is down with a STD.

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#62224 Nov 8, 2013
Hugh,

Come online.

Come out of the closet, Mon.

(smiles)

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#62225 Nov 8, 2013
In Cambodia, virginity of 12 year old girls is up for sale - for a high price. Impoverished parents often sell their daughters to pimps.

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#62226 Nov 8, 2013
It is the same story in India.

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#62227 Nov 8, 2013
In India, the belief is that sex with a virginal teen cures one of venereal diseases.

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#62229 Nov 8, 2013
Well, child sacrifice to appease some demonic God is worse.

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#62231 Nov 8, 2013
Human sacrifice and child prostitution are the worst crimes against humanity.

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#62232 Nov 8, 2013
When cults condone horrific practices like human sacrifice, infanticide, cannibalism, genocide and rape of the womenfolk of enslaved men then it's worse.

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#62233 Nov 8, 2013
Good night. I am quite upset after watching all those vids on child trafficking and am equally if not more disturbed after thinking of the immense harm done to humankind by certain barbaric religious cults with their evil scriptures, monster prophets and sadistic Gods.

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#62234 Nov 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I would think that I would be uniquely qualified to offer my comments on this matter as well.
Beans, beans good for your heart
The more you eat the more you...

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#62235 Nov 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Beans, beans good for your heart
The more you eat the more you...
EAT the beans? Heavens, no!!!!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62236 Nov 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
Come online.
Come out of the closet, Mon.
(smiles)
Is closet your secret word for clothes? Are you planning to use your yogic powers to peep at my Greek god body?

I fear the worse and so I take that as a yes.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62237 Nov 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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What about my late parents?
Joel---Will is rarely free in most human beings.In most people, the will is free within extremely narrow limits and is conditioned by genes.....

HughBe--- Don't blame people for their actions.... I am reminded of your parents.

Joel---What about my late parents?

Hugh--- connect the dots
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62238 Nov 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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There's no cure for fanaticism.
If you protest that Messianic Jews are ostracized by rabid Jews in Israel my question to a fanati8cal Christian like you would be this - would the Christian clerics tolerate a Christan who accepts Jesus but who at the same time venerates the Buddha and brings ample evidence to inarguably indicate that many of Jesus' teachings are simply lift-offs from Buddhist books? Would the Christian orthodoxy support a Christian who proves using literary sources that virgin birth, resurrection and raising the dead are common features of all religions and are not exclusive to Jesus' life? Would the mainstream Christian Church tolerate a Christian who equates the transubstantiation with cannibalism?
So, think before you type a comment.
Hugh--- In your enlightened mind, do you think it is KIND or humane to STRIP people of their IDENTITY because they do not comply with your wishes?

Joel---There's no cure for fanaticism.

If you protest that Messianic Jews are ostracized by rabid Jews in Israel my question to a fanati8cal Christian like you would be this - would the Christian clerics tolerate a Christan who accepts Jesus but who at the same time venerates the Buddha and brings ample evidence to inarguably indicate that many of Jesus' teachings are simply lift-offs from Buddhist books? Would the Christian orthodoxy support a Christian who proves using literary sources that virgin birth, resurrection and raising the dead are common features of all religions and are not exclusive to Jesus' life? Would the mainstream Christian Church tolerate a Christian who equates the transubstantiation with cannibalism?

HughBe--- 1.Who spoke about Israel?

2.The approach is not unique to Israel.

3. I am disappointed in you, Joel, and this is no joke.

4. There are over 30,000 different Christian denominations with massive differences in beliefs. Some reject Jesus as God while most don't. To those who reject Jesus as God, what do you suppose is their view of those who accept the God status of Jesus ? Is it similar to what you have said?

5. I am telling YOU that with all these difference YOU all others still call ALL of them Christians. Get it?

6. More importantly, you are confusing RELIGION i.e. Christianity with RACE i.e. Jews.

7. Please do not be like the LYING Judahites here so follow me and learn quickly.

8. The 12 tribes of Israel are PHYSICAL descendants of a man whom God named Israel.Let the LIARS deny this. His offspring are called Israelites or Children of Israel now called Jews.

9. They trace their genealogy which speaks to FAMILY, ANCESTRY and DESCENT. Family has NOTHING to do with personal beliefs meaning that it is NOT your beliefs that make you a MEMBER of any FAMILY.

Do you share the BELIEFS of your parents? Are you a part of their family?

10. Jews are big on Genealogy even though for sometime now they have had a challenge in that department.

11. They do NOT do DNA testings to determine RELIGIOUS beliefs and they are big into this.

12. The point is being a Jew or PHYSICAL seed of Israel is independent of beliefs. The teachings of the rabbis exposes them to be frauds as it can be easily proven from the Tanach that beliefs did not make any PHYSICAL descendants of Israel an Israelite now called Jew.

Israel did NOT become Israel when God made a covenant with them. They were already Israel. God made a covenant with Israel. The covenant did NOT give them the name Israel.

In essence to deny the IDENTITY of the Jewish people is INHUMANE meaning CRUEL and in my mind CRIMINAL.

Yes, you can deny or disfellowship anyone from a RELIGION e.g. Judaism but no one can take away the FAMILY connections and DESCENT of an individual. That is NOT possible.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#62239 Nov 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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There's no cure for fanaticism.
If you protest that Messianic Jews are ostracized by rabid Jews in Israel my question to a fanati8cal Christian like you would be this - would the Christian clerics tolerate a Christan who accepts Jesus but who at the same time venerates the Buddha and brings ample evidence to inarguably indicate that many of Jesus' teachings are simply lift-offs from Buddhist books? Would the Christian orthodoxy support a Christian who proves using literary sources that virgin birth, resurrection and raising the dead are common features of all religions and are not exclusive to Jesus' life? Would the mainstream Christian Church tolerate a Christian who equates the transubstantiation with cannibalism?
So, think before you type a comment.
Do Christians have common fathers like Jews who have Abraham, Isaac and Israel ?

Is the concept of genealogy applicable to Christians? Recall Jews place emphasis on it and uses it. How is that possible?

Explain the difference between Jews and Christians in this context.

Jews do DNA testings, can Christians do the same? If not, why not?

Answer all questions.

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