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# Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#61925 Nov 4, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For the LAST TIME, sex with Sarah Jessica Parker is not technically bestiality.
rabbee: anyone not here in TheTorah, is a subtle talking critter. does not matter if you are considered, jew or gentile. at the least you could do, is to try and stay within your own subtle talking beast specie. weigh the consequences of a lion in love, inviting a lamb over to have dinner with their mom and dad.
#61926 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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A) You're wrong, Dunce.
I have worked out the details using the polar co-ordinate method and the law of parallelogram for vector addition and I didn't need graph paper.
I just did a simple mental analysis in minutes and caught you again.
When you plot the real and imaginary parts of z = x +jy, you don't plot the x and y parts. You have to plot x along the x-axis and jy along the y-axis.
Now, tan theta = y/x = jy/x
If x = y,
tan theta = j,
theta = tan^-1 j which is not 45.
B) Parallelogram method:
Draw the x-y axes.
Plot x on the axis and jy on the y-axis.
Drop a perpendicular to the base along the x-axis.
The angle made by the x-axis with the y-axis (perpendicular) is 90 degree.
Draw the resultant of the parallelogram in the x-y plane.
The angle made by the resultant with the x-axis is alpha.
The angle made by the base with the slant height is theta.
Since, the resultant of the 2 vector components is the angle bisector of the angle made by the base of the IIgm with its slant height, thus, alpha = theta/2
Now, the perpendicular = jy = y sin theta, extended base = b cos theta
Now, a right triangle is formed by the extended base of the parallelogram with the resultant (hypotenuse) and the perpendicular serving as altitude.
So, by Pythagoras’ theorem, we get:
Resultant =(x^2 + y^2 + 2xy cos theta)^1/2
x + y =(2 x^2 + 2x^2 .1/1.412)= 2x^2(2 + 1/1.412)^1/2
If x = 1,
x + y = 2( 1 + 0.708)^1/2 = 2 x (1.708)^1/2 = 2 x 1.1 (approx)= 2.2
LOL.
rabbee: yeah i know why, you don't want to us graph paper. after all that line, of alleged only true bs you gave.

and the square root of 2 has always been 1.414. and you cannot come up with an answer, greater than or equal to the summation of the x an y axis values. since that would indicate, an over unity condition. and would violate the law, of thermodynamics.

and we are not solving, for the length of the hypotenuse either. we are solving for the length, of the reactant phase vector. and i do not care whether you figure the square or square root of 1, is still always 1. and the square root of 1 squared + 1 squared, will always equal 1.414 vt.

i, do not care what obama says. your ability to explain how you got it only wrong, still does not make you right. you have not discovered, perpetual motion.
#61927 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
How did you get (2)^1/2 = 1.412?
sin wt = 1/1.412
rabbee: it's so simple; vt = the square root of the summation of v1-squared, plus the square of v2. so therefore vt = the square root of 1 + 1. so then vt = the square root of 2. so then vt = 1.414. and 1.414 and 0.707 are extremely important numbers, in electronic engineering. and are the basis, for many equations.

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#61928 Nov 4, 2013
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the square root of 1 squared + 1 squared, will always equal 1.414.
How would derive square root 2 = 1.414? Show the Math.

In your answer to the question on polar co-ordinates, which set of equations did you use to come up with the answer of square root 2 which is not correct.

I worked out the polar co-ordinate solution, converted from rect co-ordinates to polar form and used the llgm law of vector addition and in each case the answer did not work out to square root 2 nor 45 degree.

Provide me with the set of equations that you used in arriving at the answer of sq root 2.

When will you show me the answer to my previous question which is as follows?

1i x 1v = 1 amp-volt (watt).

When will solve this question? I have asked you to do so, before.

Can you mathematically prove that 1 watt = 1 kg-m^2/s^3?\

Show me all the working steps.

(smiles)
#61929 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Scripture does worse than merely calling homosexuality a disease.
Scriptures like the Tanach and Quran outright call homosexuality a "perversion" or an "evil doing" and condemn homosexuals to death by stoning or by some other horrific method.
rabbee: the punishment for the actual act of homosexuality, is death by fire with bundles of sticks called f-a-g-g-o-t-s.

and stoning to death today, is more common than it was in Ysrael then. what do you think, catapults, guns, slings, pistols, rifles, artillery are. they are methods, of throwing rocks. so alleged as people, are still being stoned to death today. you have only increased the range, in which idolaters can stone each other to death.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61930 Nov 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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That is not what I said but now that you have raised the matter the observation is being made that it is not easy to treat mental illness.
Thats funny, because it WAS what you said.

So how do you propose to "treat" those "sick" people you call homosexuals?

In the US there have been "clinics" to "treat" homosexuality. Several states have declared these "clinics" and outlawed them. And, more significantly, one of the more vocal proponents of this therapy just recently APOLOGIZED for the entire enterprise.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/us/exodus-inter...

(CNN)-- After 37 years, Exodus International, an organization whose mission was to "help" gay Christians become straight, is shutting down. But not before issuing an apology.
HughBe wrote:
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Hugh--- In other words homosexuals have an ABNORMALITY of the brain. That is what I have been saying, they are SICK and are to be treated accordingly and not as criminals.
Frijoles---NO wonder your nation has been singled out by the UN for having a deplorable human rights record. You are still in the 18th century.
HughBe--- It is my understanding that YOU did not believe the UN when they said that Saddam did NOT have WMD so why are you believing them now, American?
That aside quote their words and give the link for what you have attributed to them.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61931 Nov 4, 2013
CORRECTION

In the US there have been "clinics" to "treat" homosexuality. Several states have declared these "clinics" AS FRAUDLENT and outlawed them

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61932 Nov 4, 2013
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rabbee: it's so simple; vt = the square root of the summation of v1-squared, plus the square of v2. so therefore vt = the square root of 1 + 1. so then vt = the square root of 2. so then vt = 1.414. and 1.414 and 0.707 are extremely important numbers, in electronic engineering. and are the basis, for many equations.
From the equation Z = x + jy,

Vt =((horizontal component)^2 +(vertical component)^2)^1/2

horizontal component = x,

vertical component = jy

theta = angle made by resultant, Vt, with horizontal component

Vt =((x)^2 +(jy)^2)^1/2 =(x^2 - y^2)

If x = y,

Vt = 0

LOL

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61933 Nov 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Buttocks
Oh...

So, buns = butts

Don't you Christians eat Hot Cross Buns on Good Friday?

Or, should that be Hot Cross Butts?

(smiles)

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61934 Nov 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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4. I truly wish for you speedy recovery.
Thank you.

I only need love. Nothing else.

With all the love that all you guys keep showering on me, I am sure to recover soon.

I am feeling better.

Just returned from a great stand-alone restaurant run by a Michelin star chef-in-the-making.
#61935 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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NT is an improvement on the Tanach in key philosophical terms like for instance its reference to nondualism that is far superior to the monolatry and dualism of the Tanach and in some other areas like mindless rituals the NT shows a more more sensible than a rigid approach.
rabbee: any text that results in more idolatry, is not an improvement of TheTorah. all this world has done, is to add more and more of their idolatry as religiously acceptable to them.

nor do i believe, you can get out of being here in TheTorah. by just crossing, a river bordering Ysrael. or by being born, any where else than, wandering in a desert.

according to scripture, G-D always is giving TheTorah for six days. and hands this over to adam and his mate, for the day of rest for G-D.

you really are a sick world to not notice, any of this. muslems, christians, jews, atheist and other pagans. have only been taking turns, stoning each other to death in diverse ways.

even the homosexuality running ramped, in hiroshima and nagasaki explains a lot as to why they were chosen.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61936 Nov 4, 2013
HUGH,

How do you reconcile these three - the teachings of the Tanach, the teachings of the NT and the discoveries of science?
#61937 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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How would derive square root 2 = 1.414? Show the Math.
In your answer to the question on polar co-ordinates, which set of equations did you use to come up with the answer of square root 2 which is not correct.
I worked out the polar co-ordinate solution, converted from rect co-ordinates to polar form and used the llgm law of vector addition and in each case the answer did not work out to square root 2 nor 45 degree.
Provide me with the set of equations that you used in arriving at the answer of sq root 2.
When will you show me the answer to my previous question which is as follows?
1i x 1v = 1 amp-volt (watt).
When will solve this question? I have asked you to do so, before.
Can you mathematically prove that 1 watt = 1 kg-m^2/s^3?\
Show me all the working steps.
(smiles)
rabbee: use! the graph paper joel. or simply plug 2 into a calculator, and hit the square root button. the square root of 2, is common knowledge in math.

if you do not even know what, the square root of 2 is. there is no point in even arguing, any math with you.
#61938 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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From the equation Z = x + jy,
Vt =((horizontal component)^2 +(vertical component)^2)^1/2
horizontal component = x,
vertical component = jy
theta = angle made by resultant, Vt, with horizontal component
Vt =((x)^2 +(jy)^2)^1/2 =(x^2 - y^2)
If x = y,
Vt = 0
LOL
rabbee: i am not going to argue with an intellectual imbecile, who does not know what the square root of 2 is. you can defend your being wrong all you want. but the square root of 2, has always been 1.414 approximately.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61939 Nov 4, 2013
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rabbee: use! the graph paper joel. or simply plug 2 into a calculator, and hit the square root button. the square root of 2, is common knowledge in math.

if you do not even know what, the square root of 2 is. there is no point in even arguing, any math with you.
I have shown you all the calculations to your question on polar co-ordinates using various approaches and none matched your arbitrary answers. LOL.

Anyway, leave aside the use of a calculator to find the value of square root 2 - any retard can use a calculator and come up with the answer.

How would you calculate the value of square root 2 up to 3 dp without using a calculator?

Show me all the working steps.

(smiles)

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#61940 Nov 4, 2013
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rabbee: i am not going to argue with an intellectual imbecile, who does not know what the square root of 2 is. you can defend your being wrong all you want. but the square root of 2, has always been 1.414 approximately.
Anyway, leave aside the use of a calculator to find the value of square root 2 - any retard can use a calculator and come up with the answer.

How would you calculate the value of square root 2 up to 3 dp without using a calculator?

Show me all the working steps.

(smiles)
#61942 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I have shown you all the calculations to your question on polar co-ordinates using various approaches and none matched your arbitrary answers. LOL.
Anyway, leave aside the use of a calculator to find the value of square root 2 - any retard can use a calculator and come up with the answer.
How would you calculate the value of square root 2 up to 3 dp without using a calculator?
Show me all the working steps.
(smiles)
rabbee: your the one, who needs to figure out what the square root of 2 is not me. heck i have known the square root of two, since before the fifth grade.

and i was smart enough to know, that you calculated, the length of the hypotenuse not the length of the vector. cause you used, the wrong equation. use the graph paper, joel. i am sure you can find, where 1x and 1y intersect to measure the 45* vector length. and you can't end up with a number, greater than the two values, no matter what the degree value is. and the square root, is always going to be less than the two added squared values. in fact if you multiply the added values, by 0.707 you'll get the correct vt value. and what a surprise, if you multiply 2 by 0.707 you get 1.414. in fact try it with 10x + 5y = vt x 0.707 , 15 x 0.707 = 10.605. and have you not noticed, that 0.707 is the reciprocal of 1.414? 1.414 and 0.707 are extremely important values in electronics.
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#61943 Nov 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So after all this homophobia, we FINALLY found a population of human beings that you feel moved to stand up for? "SECULAR Jews who have rejected all gods?" Oh, the indignity!
The only reason you are pursuing this point is that you (as you admitted in the next few lines) believe only your notion of the bible is correct and that us JEWS are not eligible for our own spiritual inheritance. Well, my boy, that view is right out of the evangelical playbook.
You used the word spade you racist tea bagger.
david wise- molehunt
#61944 Nov 4, 2013
Slow Dance Chubby wrote:
That's funny, when the faithful try to get me in the Mitzvah van I say, "no thanks", and keep walking.
It's happened a few times and I'm not even Jewish.
Was I being oppressed?
..........the zionist fifth column wants to kidnap freethinkers , to prevent Americans from opposing endless wars for the Jonathan Pollard / Bernie Madoff/ Charles Schumer fifth column..........Judaism is an ancient religion,,,,,,,,,,zionism is a recent racist cult of hateful Ashkenazi who target Sephardic chews and OATH KEEPERS.
#61945 Nov 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Anyway, leave aside the use of a calculator to find the value of square root 2 - any retard can use a calculator and come up with the answer.
How would you calculate the value of square root 2 up to 3 dp without using a calculator?
Show me all the working steps.
(smiles)
rabbee: do you have any idea how long it has been, since i have done the square root division of 2. 00 00 00 knowing the first perfect square less than two is one. and subtract the 1 from the 1 to get 1 00, and the next perfect sqare and adding the one to the end of two to get 21 which gives a result of 4 resulting in so far 1.4 well screw all that. when i can multiply 2 x 0.707 = 1.414

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