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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#61648 Nov 1, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea. Those Methodists have some pretty whacky ideas.
At least they dont pin needles in dolls, like some Caribbean religions. AT least I dont think they do.
Bob

Seattle, WA

#61649 Nov 1, 2013
Allah is Satan and Muhammed is his messeger. Allah is just a pagan moon god, a jin.

The Messianic Jews and christians are united to defend Israel even until pain of death. Israel must be given back all its land that was promised to Abraham , Isaac and Jacob.

All the land must be returned to Israel. This includes Gaza and and the Shechem. All land.
Its GODS will.

The Messianic Jews and christians are prepaired to defend Israel to the death, just like jihadi's.

Evil Allah will go down to sheol in shame.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#61650 Nov 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
Allah is Satan and Muhammed is his messeger. Allah is just a pagan moon god, a jin.
The Messianic Jews and christians are united to defend Israel even until pain of death. Israel must be given back all its land that was promised to Abraham , Isaac and Jacob.
All the land must be returned to Israel. This includes Gaza and and the Shechem. All land.
Its GODS will.
The Messianic Jews and christians are prepaired to defend Israel to the death, just like jihadi's.
Evil Allah will go down to sheol in shame.
You forgot the regular Jews (unless that is who you meant when you said Messianic "Jews"). The "Jews for Jesus" et al folks, although likely staunch supporters of the Jewish Homeland, are Messianic Christians, not Jews.

Allah is just another word for God - no need to get all angry about that.
Eric

Elk Grove Village, IL

#61651 Nov 1, 2013
Happy Diwali to everyone but Joel. Joel says he doesn't believe in it. He only goes out to celebrate it with friends.
Voluntarist

Europe

#61652 Nov 1, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Cite your evidence.
Warren v. District of Columbia [1](444
A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-
quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of
Appeals (equivalent to a state supreme
court) case that held police do not have a
duty to provide police services to
individuals, even if a dispatcher promises
help to be on the way, except when police
develop a special duty to particular
individuals.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._Dist...
Voluntarist

Europe

#61653 Nov 1, 2013
Justices Rule Police Do Not
Have a Constitutional Duty
to Protect Someone
By LINDA GREENHOUSE
Published: June 28, 2005
WASHINGTON, June 27 - The
Supreme Court ruled on Monday that
the police did not have a
constitutional duty to protect a
person from harm, even a woman
who had obtained a court-issued
protective order against a violent
husband making an arrest
mandatory for a violation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28...
Voluntarist

Europe

#61654 Nov 1, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
If you get you off the streets and/or help you need, of course anyone would say yes.
Thanks for the frivolous answer, the real answer being no, the government is not the people, that is just public relations .
Voluntarist

Europe

#61655 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha
Fries are too pedestrian and junk food. Hardly anyone eats fries in the Taj.
Well, I ate a light lunch of salads - green and sprouts - and a combo of juices accompanied by blue veined cheeses and fresh whole grain breads and rounded it off with a wonderful Coffee Viennoise served at the uber-stylish Sea Lounge in the Taj.
Goitrogens: Thyroid Inhibiting
Foods You Should Avoid
Many people with thyroid conditions wonder
what they should eat, and whether or not
there are foods which can help improve their
thyroid health. While there are certain foods
those with a thyroid condition should
consume, in this article I’m going to discuss
certain thyroid-inhibiting foods you should try
to avoid.
These thyroid-inhibiting foods are also known
as goitrogens, and I’m going to discuss the
negative impact they can have on your health,
and list some of the common foods which you
will want to minimize your consumption of,
and in some cases, completely avoid. This is
especially true if you have a hypothyroid
condition, but even if you have
hyperthyroidism you still want to minimize the
consumption of these foods.
Here are some examples of goitrogens:
• Broccoli
• Cauliflower
• Kale
• Brussels Sprouts
• Mustard Greens
• Radishes
• Spinach
• Strawberries
• Peaches
• Soy-Based Foods
• Peanuts
http://www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/arti...
Voluntarist

Europe

#61656 Nov 1, 2013
Israel Strikes Syria Again
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
October 31, 2013
The Obama administration has made public
an Israeli attack on a military installation
near the Syrian port city of Latakia earlier
this week. The Israeli government has not
admitted to attacking its neighbor.
“We don’t refer to foreign reports,” the
Israeli government told when asked for
comment by CNN.
The Israelis struck a storage facility
containing missiles and related military
equipment they claim would have been
transferred to Hezbollah, the Lebanese
resistance group formed after Israel invaded
the country in 1978.
The attack occurred on the same day the
Organization for the Prohibition of
Chemical Weapons said Syria has destroyed
all of its declared chemical weapons.
Syria announced on October 17 that it
would be amenable to peace talks with so-
called rebel groups supported by the U.S.
and the Gulf monarchies. Syrian deputy
minister Qadri Jamil said in Moscow that
the discussions could be held in Geneva on
Nov. 23, the New York Times reported.
The Israeli press reports the strike was
against Russian SA-8 surface-to-air
missiles. The SA-8 is not an offensive
weapon. It is an antiaircraft missile used
for defense.
Voluntarist

Europe

#61657 Nov 1, 2013
Pro-Gun Sheriff Found Not
Guilty
Jury nullifies false arrest of Nick Finch who
supported Second Amendment
Infowars.com
October 31, 2013
Nick Finch, the Florida sheriff arrested in
June after he defended the Second
Amendment, has been declared “not guilty”
of the charges brought against him by the
State of Florida, according to Richard Mack.
The Liberty Co. sheriff was charged with
felony “official misconduct” and “falsifying
public records” after he released a suspect
arrested on an unconstitutional gun charge
and removed the arrest file.
After closing arguments by prosecutors and
the defense, the jury took less than 90
minutes to reach its verdict.
Finch said today on the Alex Jones Show
that the judge and the prosecutors were
“not surprised” over his acquittal.
“They knew that they had no case,” he
said.
Finch is expected to return to his duties as
sheriff.
During the trial, the sheriff testified that
he released Floyd Eugene Parrish, who was
arrested for unlawfully carrying a
firearm, because he believed the Second
Amendment trumped all state gun laws .
As we reported back in June , the Florida
Department of Law Enforcement accused
Finch of covering up the arrest of Floyd
Eugene Parrish after releasing him from the
Liberty County Jail.
On March 8, Sgt. James Joseph Hoagland of
the Liberty County Sheriff’s Office arrested
Parrish during a traffic stop after finding
a .25 automatic pistol in Parrish’s right
front pocket and a holstered revolver in his
car, according to court records.
Parrish was then taken to the county jail.
After being notified of Parrish’s arrest,
Finch took the arrest file and told jailers
that Parrish would be released with no
charges, according to investigators.
Finch also ordered both the pistol and
revolver be returned.
Voluntarist

Europe

#61658 Nov 1, 2013
Conspiracy Theorists Are the
Greatest Challenge to Democracy
… According to … Here’s who …
Sibel Edmonds
boilingfrogspost.com
October 30, 2013
British establishment mouthpiece BBC leads
the way again. This time it is about the
biggest threat to democracy today. No, it is
not terrorists. No, it is not Islamism. And,
no, it is not the Western-Installed Dictator
Regimes around the world. No, no, no, no,
no. The new enemy is the conspiracy
theorists. It is those who question their
governments. It is those who find facts and
confront the mainstream lies and liars such
as BBC. Basically, it is you … and me.
Allow me to wade through all the fillers
and present you with a few telling excerpts
from this BBC report:
Are conspiracy theories destroying
democracy?
The more information we have about what
governments and corporations are up to the
less we seem to trust them. Will conspiracy
theories eventually destroy democracy?

Mr. Naughton is one of three lead
investigators in a major new Cambridge
University project to investigate the impact of
conspiracy theories on democracy.

David Runciman, professor of politics at
Cambridge University, the third principal
investigator, is keen to explode the idea that
most conspiracies are actually “cock-ups”.

“Actually the conspirators are often the
paranoid and crazy conspiracy theorists,
because in their attempt to cover up the
cock-up they get drawn into a web in which
their self-justification posits some giant
conspiracy trying to expose their conspiracy.
“And I think that’s consistently true through
a lot of political scandals, Watergate
included.”

He is also examining whether the push for
greater openness and transparency in public
life will fuel, rather than kill off, conspiracy
theories…“It may be that one of the things
conspiracy theories feed on as well as
silence, is a surfeit of information. And when
there is a mass of information out there, it
becomes easier for people to find their way
through to come to the conclusion they want
to come to.
Voluntarist

Europe

#61659 Nov 1, 2013
What are they really talking about? What
are they really presenting? A few things.
1- Challenging official stories, no matter
how the record and history proves them to
be false or exaggerated, lowers trust in
government and government officials. This
is a threat to the establishment and their
operations through states. Thus, this is a
threat to democracy. That is, if you believe
that the state, the government, represents
democracy. It means government equals
democracy, thus, you are challenging
democracy every time you challenge your
government and what your government is
telling you.
2- These guys, these credible Cambridge
professors, claim that openness, the
internet, and greater information
accessibility creates more conspiracies and
conspiracy theorists.
3- Now, if you add item 2 to item 1, you get
this: Openness and greater information
accessibility leads to more conspiracies and
increases the number of conspiracy
theorists, and that my friend presents the
greatest threat to our democracy today.
Wow. Oh, wow. I am not going to even
bother with the logical fallacies imbedded
in the points made by these distinguished
professors. Of course I won’t bother with
BBC and its reputation and consistency
when it comes to representing the
establishment. Instead, I am going to get
down and check out the source of funding
for these academic hit-men.
Now, that was easy. I checked out
Cambridge and this conspiracy theorist
oriented research program, and I found the
source of its funding right away:
Professor David Runciman is part of a
new Leverhulme-funded interdisciplinary,
collaborative project on conspiracy theories
at the University of Cambridge.
Here is a short canned background on
Leverhulme Trust:
The Leverhulme Trust was established in
1925 under the will of the First Viscount
Leverhulme, William Hesketh Lever, with the
instruction that its resources should be used
to support “scholarships for the purposes of
research and education.” Since that time, the
Trust has provided funding for research
projects, fellowships, studentships, bursaries
and prizes; it operates across all the
academic disciplines, the intention being to
support talented individuals as they realize
their personal vision in research and
professional training. With annual funding of
some £50 million, the Trust is amongst the
largest all-subject providers of research
funding in the UK.
Voluntarist

Europe

#61660 Nov 1, 2013
Sibel Deniz Edmonds is a former Federal
Bureau of Investigation (FBI) translator and
founder of the National Security
Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC).
Edmonds gained public attention following
her firing from her position as a language
specialist at the FBI's Washington Field
Office in March 2002. She had accused a
colleague of covering up illicit activity
involving foreign nationals, alleged serious
security breaches and cover-ups and that
intelligence had been deliberately
suppressed, endangering national security.
Her later claims gained her awards and
fame as a whistleblower.[1]
In March 2012, she published a memoir,
titled Classified Woman – The Sibel
Edmonds Story.[2]
Edmonds testified before the 9/11
Commission, but her testimony was
excluded from the official 567 page 9/11
Commission Report .[3]
Edmonds is also the founder and publisher
of the Boiling Frogs Post , an online media
site that aims to offer nonpartisan
investigative journalism.[4]
Sibel Edmonds has worked to investigate
and write about corruption in Afghanistan.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61661 Nov 1, 2013
Eric wrote:
Happy Diwali to everyone but Joel.

Joel says he doesn't believe in it.

He only goes out to celebrate it with friends.
Thank you for wishing everyone except me a Happy Diwali.

People of all communities join in the celebrations here.

How can I celebrate such a perverted festival that celebrates genocide and mass destruction of opponents?

Rama was simply an incarnation of the Cosmic Higher Mind Plane and was awash with higher mental ideas of a dualistic kind and possessed an array of vital powers that he employed to cause death and destruction everywhere he went and he kept killing people till the day he left his body. What happened with Rama is that his higher mind faculties came under the perverse influence of the vital plane that stands below the higher mind in the cosmic hierarchy.

Rama fought the war against Ravana to rescue Seetha (the kidnapped wife of Rama) and after bringing Seetha back from captivity Rama asked her to prove her chastity by walking on fire - a sadistic thing to do to a traumatized woman and even had she been in the pink of health no woman should be made to endure such humiliation and torture. Killing, cursing, tribalism, abuses, threats, torture, wars and persecution are perverse traits of the inferior planes.

Ever since I came into direct contact with the Supramental Plane of Cosmic Consciousness that stands far above the Cosmic Higher Mind, I have, through direct experience, even in the preliminary stage of this herculean Supramental Yoga, understood fully well that there exists a Consciousness and a concomitant Power that unifies the disparates instead of tackling each entity separately that usually results in divisiveness, ruthlessness and killing, whereas the unification approach of the supramental principle is a dynamic mechanism that reconciles the opposites so that they lose their individual powers and cease clashing with each other for supremacy and as such they act in the supramentalized state in a harmonious manner as one unified whole and in this way a total and a radical transformation is achieved.

Well, speaking of Diwali, the classy and gorgeous ladies in my apartment block and surrounding area are decked in dazzling diamond and gold ornaments costing millions, the finest silks have been ordered from the best haute couture designers dealing in ethnic wear and the hoses are filled with white lotuses, marigolds and jasmine flowers tastefully arranged in European cut crystal bowls and the whole block has been illuminated with tasteful lights and the boundaries of the driveway adorned with glowing earthen lamps. Everything looks good on the surface but beneath it's a festival that celebrates genocide and mass destruction.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61662 Nov 1, 2013
typo

HOUSES are filled with white lotuses, marigolds and jasmine flowers tastefully arranged in European cut crystal bowls....

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61663 Nov 1, 2013
HUGH,

Where are you, Monny?

(smiles)

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61664 Nov 1, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>

Government and nation are not synonymous.
Obviously.

Nevertheless, both government and nation are human constructs - products of mental conceptions given concrete form.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61666 Nov 1, 2013
Relaxing with music.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#61667 Nov 1, 2013
Is there an ultimate reality? Can we measure it? Or can we only experience it?
Voluntarist

United States

#61668 Nov 1, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously.
Nevertheless, both government and nation are human constructs - products of mental conceptions given concrete form.
So then you agree when someone says " the government is us", that is a false statement.

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