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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#61445 Oct 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
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My source for this is the books of the prophets in the OT, mainly Isaiah and Jeremiah.

Syria is called the king of the north and Egypt the king of the south. They are also related to Israel. Rebekah, Leah, and Rachel were Syrian and Josephs wife was Egyptian.

It will start whenever VWD Day comes, which should be by the end of 2014.
So, what's so sublime or penetrating about the info in these books from the Bible?

What is the depth of transcendental knowledge/achievement displayed by the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah? Not much...

I am not in the least impressed by their teachings.

Besides, when billions of people believe in such scriptures then certain powerful lobbies study the trends and stage certain events that mimic a few aspects of the so-called prophecies contained in the books so as to mind control and exploit humankind all the more.

Where in these books - Isaiah and Jeremiah - is 2014 mentioned?

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#61446 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Explain the code.
Simple, Mon.

Log Hugh = 2 Log J

Log Hugh = Log (J)^2

Taking anti-logs:

Hugh = J^2

Hugh = J x J = Jamaican Joker!!!!

(smiles)

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#61447 Oct 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
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Gods first and most important commandment to Israel was "no other gods".
Worship no one else but me - This is what every God tells his followers.

Abraham and his ancestors worshipped some other God prior to turning to El worship and that ancestral God of Abraham must have commanded his followers to abstain from worshipping other Gods and that the penalty for apostasy would be hell fire.

Now, Abraham, as an old man, dumped his ancestral God and began worshipping the Babylonian deity El and like Abraham's ancestral God, the new deity El also commands his worshipers to worship no other God aside from him and that the penalty for apostasy would be death.

See, every God orders his set of followers to shun other Gods.

So, the command of El to worship him and him alone and no other God is not unique and this kind of megalomania, jealousy, tribalism and fanaticism inevitably results in genocides against the believers in other Gods as we see all throughout the Tanakh and in many other books as well.

This is the usual case with every pagan or tribal deity whose rivalry with other deities ends in threats, wars, persecution and mass murders.

And, fools call this kind of terrorism religion!

LOL.

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#61448 Oct 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
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The second was no idols. An idol is the physical representation of a god.
The God El (YHVH) talks, fumes, abuses, curses, loves, avenges, threatens, murders and in short he displays every human trait and yet ironically he does not wish to reveal his face! LOL.

There exist many anthropopathic typal beings like El who refrain from incarnating in human form and are happy displaying human qualities as mentioned above and expectedly they have no wish to be portrayed in human form.

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#61449 Oct 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
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The God of Israel says all other gods are idols.
Every God says the same thing about his rivals (the other Gods).

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#61450 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Joel - Assuming that you're more straight than gay, well, would you choose a sexy 17 year old chick or a sexy 30 year old woman for sex?

HughBe - To answer your question my choice would be based on the one that attracts me more. Not because both are sexy means that they have equal drawing power.
I think that you're in your mid or late 40s.

Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.

LOL.

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#61451 Oct 29, 2013
HUGH:

Energy, matter and consciousness are the only tangibles that exist in the universe.

What else exists aside from energy, matter and consciousness that form a unified field?

If nothing else exists aside from energy, matter and consciousness then every phenomenon - material, emotional, mental, paranormal, spiritual, mystical - has to necessarily be explained in terms of these substrates.

If you feel something else exists aside from energy, matter and consciousness then what is it?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61453 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I think that you're in your mid or late 40s.
Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.
LOL.
Yeah, there was a turning point in my life when I realized 17 was in fact too young to be a physical turn on, and another turning point in my life when I realized, that even if 17 was not too young I wouldnt want to deal with "relationship" fallout with a 17 year old, let alone the legal consequences.

That Hughbe would even still consider this shows how much he lives in his imagination. Which is ok, he IS the daydreamer as well as the homecoming queen.

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#61454 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Yeah, there was a turning point in my life when I realized 17 was in fact too young to be a physical turn on, and another turning point in my life when I realized, that even if 17 was not too young I wouldnt want to deal with "relationship" fallout with a 17 year old, let alone the legal consequences.

That Hughbe would even still consider this shows how much he lives in his imagination. Which is ok, he IS the daydreamer as well as the homecoming queen.
You mean it would be illegal and troublesome for you if you entered into a physical relationship with a 17 year old handsome guy.

That's for you to decide.

Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.

Hugh is bisexual - mostly homosexual, hardly straight.

All his talks of insisting that he's straight are cover-ups to hide his sexual attraction for men.

Hugh has this nasty habit of visiting public loos to glimpse exposed dicks and I guess to pick up guys for sex.

On a couple of occasions, I perceived the sex vibes radiating from his posts - the stench was so foul, I almost threw up.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61455 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.
Hugh is bisexual - mostly homosexual, hardly straight.
All his talks of insisting that he's straight are cover-ups to hide his sexual attraction for men.
Its been obvious to me, and others here, that his homophobia is just a smokescreen for his repressed feelings which are in conflict with his religious beliefs. I really feel sorry for him. It must suck to be that tortured.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61456 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Just to make things clear to those such as yourself who appear to be pathologically challenged in their understanding of the concept of gender roles, "homecoming queens", in this implied usage, are usually biologically male.
HughBe --I am a believer.

Rick---'A daydream believer and a homecoming queen'

HughBe--- Clear, I am the daydream believer and I take it that YOU are the homecoming queen, Rick. That is ok, but there will be a limit to our bonding.

Frijoles---Just to make things clear to those such as yourself who appear to be pathologically challenged in their understanding of the concept of gender roles, "homecoming queens", in this implied usage, are usually biologically male.

HughBe--- I remain the daydream believer and Rick a homecoming queen. Tell me, what have you said that would change my points? Is Rick a BIOLOGICAL male?

I am happy to know that you too are a HAPPY homecoming QUEEN.
By the way, I want you to use Rick's words and explain the "implied usage" that you speak of.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61457 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Is this your version of a D'var Torah for the day?
The words that follow are TRUE. They are not a version but are FACTS.

You and your kind should give up versions and embrace TRUTH and FACTS.

I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61458 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Simple, Mon.
Log Hugh = 2 Log J
Log Hugh = Log (J)^2
Taking anti-logs:
Hugh = J^2
Hugh = J x J = Jamaican Joker!!!!
(smiles)
Special, you are.

You solve this one.

2 Log I

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#61459 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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The words that follow are TRUE. They are not a version but are FACTS.
You and your kind should give up versions and embrace TRUTH and FACTS.
I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.
Yeah, I believe you. Really.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61460 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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I think that you're in your mid or late 40s.
Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.
LOL.
Joel---Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.

HughBe--- Gifted, you are. Now let me uplift that brilliant mind of yours. You presented a hypothetical scenario and I gave you an honest answer and I shall not be changing it. Had I been clever I would NEVER have allowed you to outwit me.

Upliftment lesson for you dear Joel.

1. No honest and normal man could say that he could not be attracted to a 17 year old.

Here are a few reasons, STUDY them.

A) The age of a female is NOT printed on her FACE or body so once development is there you cannot be certain about age meaning 17 or 19 etc.

B) Attraction be it sexual or otherwise can happen to anyone prior to knowledge of age.

C)The fact that one is attracted to someone does not mean that it will go any further for many reasons. Sit in a corner and do the unusual THINK.

D) In many countries e.g. Israel the age of consent is 16 and some even lower and so sexual relationships would not be considered paedophilia in those countries.

E) I can tell you a FACT that in Jamaica the age of consent was actually lowered because of Indians or YOUR countrymen who married as early as 14. This is a FACT. The age has now been increased to 16.

F) Having a desire and NOT acting on it are not the same in law.

G)Tell me Joel are you a MURDERER? Let me share my reason for asking. YOU dear Joel have expressed a desire to KILL your former master.
HughBe

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#61461 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Yeah, I believe you. Really.
I don't care what you believe I GAVE the LINK to the quote, in the past.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61462 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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You mean it would be illegal and troublesome for you if you entered into a physical relationship with a 17 year old handsome guy.
That's for you to decide.
Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.
Hugh is bisexual - mostly homosexual, hardly straight.
All his talks of insisting that he's straight are cover-ups to hide his sexual attraction for men.
Hugh has this nasty habit of visiting public loos to glimpse exposed dicks and I guess to pick up guys for sex.
On a couple of occasions, I perceived the sex vibes radiating from his posts - the stench was so foul, I almost threw up.
Joel---Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.

Hugh--- You are exposing me Joel, shame on you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61463 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I don't care what you believe I GAVE the LINK to the quote, in the past.
So you have convinced yourself by posting an out of context quote. Congratulations. You are a genius.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#61464 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Joel---Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.
Hugh--- You are exposing me Joel, shame on you.
Nary a day goes by were you dont offer a gay double entrende. Thats not normal. Unless you swing that way. I just wish you would come out already and save yourself the torment the argument you must be having in your head between the real you and the biblical you. That must suck.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61465 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So you have convinced yourself by posting an out of context quote. Congratulations. You are a genius.
Frijoles---out of context quote

HughBe--- You are an absolute joke.

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