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HughBe

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<quoted text>Gods first and most important commandment to Israel was "no other gods". The second was no idols. An idol is the physical representation of a god. The God of Israel says all other gods are idols. Their worship leads to anarchy, Israel also has to be faithful to believe and therefore set up the Messiah as their king.
Susan B---Gods FIRST and MOST important commandment to Israel was "no other gods".

HughBe--- Let us look at your "first and MOST important commandment to Israel" i.e. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Now Susan I take it that you are aware that Judaism has VIOLATED this commandment over and over again.

Right now in Judaism, the words of the rabbis are esteemed and OBEYED above the words of God Almighty. In essence members of Judaism have other GODS or RULERS before their Creator. The rule of the rabbis have dominance over those who belong to Judaism.

Think about it.



Susan B---The second was no idols. An idol is the physical representation of a god

HughBe---- Can people worship men? Is there any such thing in human history? What is worship Susan?

Your rabbis are worshipped.
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HughBe wrote:
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Quantitatively speaking, the 3 men would have an easier time given that there are BILLIONS of women now as opposed to very few in their time. I am aware that your focus is qualitative.
rabbee: my, focus? i don't even know how G-D, even finds those exact same ones again. especially since i was trying so mentally hard, to avoid this fiasco all again. how does Abram and sara always get together like precise clockwork. while me and Noach, don't even have permanent mates yet. do you know how hard it is to find a true mate here in TheTorah, among billions of nobodies here in IT? and i am always limited, to the ones G-D already said.
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'A daydream believer and a homecoming queen'
HughBe --I am a believer.

Rick---'A daydream believer and a homecoming queen'

HughBe--- Clear, I am the daydream believer and I take it that YOU are the homecoming queen, Rick. That is ok, but there will be a limit to our bonding.
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HughBe wrote:
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Susan B---Gods FIRST and MOST important commandment to Israel was "no other gods".
HughBe--- Let us look at your "first and MOST important commandment to Israel" i.e. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Now Susan I take it that you are aware that Judaism has VIOLATED this commandment over and over again.
Right now in Judaism, the words of the rabbis are esteemed and OBEYED above the words of God Almighty. In essence members of Judaism have other GODS or RULERS before their Creator. The rule of the rabbis have dominance over those who belong to Judaism.
Think about it.
Susan B---The second was no idols. An idol is the physical representation of a god
HughBe---- Can people worship men? Is there any such thing in human history? What is worship Susan?
Your rabbis are worshipped.
The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law. They are instructed not to add or subtract from it. The Rabbis do not claim to be gods. You're right, both houses of Israel have historically been joined to idols and they are to this day. Sins against Gods person are the deadliest sins you can commit and that includes the first two commandments. Worship means loving, serving, fearing, and obeying God.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law. They are instructed not to add or subtract from it. The Rabbis do not claim to be gods. You're right, both houses of Israel have historically been joined to idols and they are to this day. Sins against Gods person are the deadliest sins you can commit and that includes the first two commandments. Worship means loving, serving, fearing, and obeying God.
rabbee: if you are not here in TheTorah, HaShem G-D is still giving. for any prolonged, period of time. then you can't avoid being involved, in the idolatry of other new testament g-ds.
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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law. They are instructed not to add or subtract from it. The Rabbis do not claim to be gods. You're right, both houses of Israel have historically been joined to idols and they are to this day. Sins against Gods person are the deadliest sins you can commit and that includes the first two commandments. Worship means loving, serving, fearing, and obeying God.
Susan B---The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law.

HughBe--- Why? Is it because they lack brains? Are these the same people that the rabbis and some of their disciples boast about their prowess in business, academics e.g. rabbis have boasted about the number of Nobel Laureates.

Also, many times on this forum I have witnessed boasting about Jews being the employers. So are you really telling me that these people who are so BRIGHT and beyond others need a dumb set of self-appointed leaders to explain plain words. Interesting.

Susan B-- They are instructed not to add or subtract from it.

HughBe--- Just leave the additions and subtractions to the rabbis.

Susan B--- The Rabbis do not claim to be gods.

HughBe--- As a general rule I would not expect them to do so. However, they sit in place of God and can instruct their disciples about the will of God even when God has not revealed it to them.

Susan B--- Worship means loving, serving, fearing, and obeying God.

HughBe--- Let me amplify your word with an addition at the end."Worship means loving, serving, fearing, and obeying God/RULER/rabbis"

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My points remain.
HughBe--- Let us look at your "first and MOST important commandment to Israel" i.e. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
Now Susan I take it that you are aware that Judaism has VIOLATED this commandment over and over again.

Right now in Judaism, the words of the rabbis are esteemed and OBEYED above the words of God Almighty. In essence members of Judaism have other GODS or RULERS before their Creator. The rule of the rabbis have dominance over those who belong to Judaism.

Can people worship men? Is there any such thing in human history?
Your rabbis are worshipped.
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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: my, focus? i don't even know how G-D, even finds those exact same ones again. especially since i was trying so mentally hard, to avoid this fiasco all again. how does Abram and sara always get together like precise clockwork. while me and Noach, don't even have permanent mates yet. do you know how hard it is to find a true mate here in TheTorah, among billions of nobodies here in IT? and i am always limited, to the ones G-D already said.
HughBe--Quantitatively speaking, the 3 men would have an easier time given that there are BILLIONS of women now as opposed to very few in their time. I am aware that your focus is qualitative.

rabbee: my, focus?

HughBe--- Yes your focus and your use of "NOBODIES" support my point.

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Oct 28, 2013
 
Topix - where non-Jews come to tell Jews what they think.

Comedy gold.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
Rick Moss wrote:
Topix - where non-Jews come to tell Jews what they think.
Comedy gold.
This is the is the position, the days of slavery which lasted for almost 2000 years are over. The enclaves are falling apart and people are being liberated.

Some will choose to worship their Creator according to His will and not according to the will of rabbis while others having been given free will by God have started to use it to pursue their own pleasures e.g. atheists.
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Susan B---The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law.

HughBe--- Why? Is it because they lack brains?

Are these the same people that the rabbis and some of their disciples boast about their prowess in business, academics e.g. rabbis have boasted about the number of Nobel Laureates.

FREEDOM from MENTAL SLAVERY.

Let the first born go, PHARAOHS.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.

In essence things taught by the rabbis via Talmud takes priority over what God said directly or via His prophets.

I am reminded of words spoke by Isaiah the prophet and surely they are applicable to the gods of Judaism.

"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
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HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--Quantitatively speaking, the 3 men would have an easier time given that there are BILLIONS of women now as opposed to very few in their time. I am aware that your focus is qualitative.
rabbee: my, focus?
HughBe--- Yes your focus and your use of "NOBODIES" support my point.
rabbee: your talking about an impossible job, to find the exact same mates as the last two Torot times. that is not even, humanly possible. there are more than 3billion women in this world, there is no way i could find the exact same one thrice again. and at least half a billion if not more, within eligible range. and please do not tell me, this is just beginners luck.

there is no randomness, involved here. why can't i be, with anyone i want? but must always be, who G-D says. i have been appointed a wife again, by G-D. all of my marriages are all arranged, before i even get here. and i still disagree with G-D'S choice, of this horrible monster to be with me. it don't make and sense, why My Parent, would give me with such a constant and disappointing harlot failure?
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HughBe wrote:
Susan B---The people depend on the Rabbis to interpret the law.
HughBe--- Why? Is it because they lack brains?
Are these the same people that the rabbis and some of their disciples boast about their prowess in business, academics e.g. rabbis have boasted about the number of Nobel Laureates.
FREEDOM from MENTAL SLAVERY.
Let the first born go, PHARAOHS.
rabbee: are you imp-lying that i am lucky to be the second born again adam? cause it sure does not, look like it.
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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: are you imp-lying that i am lucky to be the second born again adam? cause it sure does not, look like it.
rabbee: are you imp-lying that i am lucky to be the second born again adam?

HughBe--- No, not luck but you are blessed.
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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: your talking about an impossible job, to find the exact same mates as the last two Torot times. that is not even, humanly possible. there are more than 3billion women in this world, there is no way i could find the exact same one thrice again. and at least half a billion if not more, within eligible range. and please do not tell me, this is just beginners luck.
there is no randomness, involved here. why can't i be, with anyone i want? but must always be, who G-D says. i have been appointed a wife again, by G-D. all of my marriages are all arranged, before i even get here. and i still disagree with G-D'S choice, of this horrible monster to be with me. it don't make and sense, why My Parent, would give me with such a constant and disappointing harlot failure?
rabbee--why can't i be, with anyone i want?

HughBe--- I would have phrased it differently.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
and i know if i refuse to do this, here in TheTorah. G-D is going to return really quick, to taunt me some more here in TheTorah. ain't no atta boys, to be given to adam. maybe i should not of refused to do this, for the 41 years? but i did try at first, before the christians began their persecution like i was some kind of jew. but you can only take so much, crucify him.

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Later. Going out. Bye.

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Sam, Ham or Jam. LOL.

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Wham, bam, bye, Ma'am. LOL.

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HughBe --I am a believer.
Rick---'A daydream believer and a homecoming queen'
HughBe--- Clear, I am the daydream believer and I take it that YOU are the homecoming queen, Rick. That is ok, but there will be a limit to our bonding.
Just to make things clear to those such as yourself who appear to be pathologically challenged in their understanding of the concept of gender roles, "homecoming queens", in this implied usage, are usually biologically male.

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