Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.
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Consciousness-energy as a typal principle is immortal but to retain it in the body that's subject to wear and tear, disease, decomposition and breakdown is possible via the inferior process called vitalization (that keeps the conscious energies in the body without transforming their inferior movements nor rendering the body invincible) or by the superior process of supramentalization that confers both immortality and invincibility on the body.

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50 year old dunce. LOL.
Who spends their time here spamming others with metaphysical masturbatory nonsense? Who is the real dunce?

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RATIONALISTS and RELIGIOUS FANATICS get the biggest shock when they experience dual phenomena of death and the mechanism of the discarnate state of the consciousness-energy because then all their pet beliefs about existence get shattered when confronted by the actual dynamics of the these subtle phenomena. Neither science nor the religious scriptures know anything about death or about the mechanism of the disembodied state.

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Also, speaking of local rock and roll celebrities, have you been following the story about the nutcase chemist in Fairfield with all the bomb making materials in his house? Claimed he was making a bomb for Keith Richards (as in a gift). I am pretty sure he was my Chem instructor one summer in the 80s when I took a summer class at the local community college.
Any additional news on that? I heard about the Keith Richards story, but assumed he was making it up.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Who spends their time here spamming others with metaphysical masturbatory nonsense? Who is the real dunce?
rabbee: hey! hey! hey! it's yoga unbearable.

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Who spends their time here spamming others with metaphysical masturbatory nonsense? Who is the real dunce?
Teased?

LOL.

Leave aside all the talk about metaphysics for which one needs the direct yogic experiences to directly know about the mind-matter dynamics or from a purely intellectual perspective to discuss metaphysics one needs a fine intellect to inferentially understand the gross and subtle processes of mind-matter involved.

You have neither the capacity for the yogic experiences nor do you have a fine intelligence to reason out these mind-matter processes.

You don't even possess the ordinary intelligence to deal with the intricacies of Math, Physics, Chemistry and Logic.

I am laughing at you.

My friends who've read some of your posts call you a retard.

They at times ask me about the American retard.

Most of the time, I ignore their taunts.

You have received a very poor education in school/university and your upbringing is highly questionable.

You're the in-house DUNCE.

Apart from being a retard, you're not even a good human being.

Be a good human being first.

Being a good human being is more important than having the capacity for yoga, higher reasoning power and aptitude for math and science and logic.

Relax and improve yourself.
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
RATIONALISTS and RELIGIOUS FANATICS get the biggest shock when they experience dual phenomena of death and the mechanism of the discarnate state of the consciousness-energy because then all their pet beliefs about existence get shattered when confronted by the actual dynamics of the these subtle phenomena. Neither science nor the religious scriptures know anything about death or about the mechanism of the disembodied state.
rabbee: been there done that, no big deal. and i, get to do it all over again. every time Adam arrives, the world makes up some kind of jesus excuse to keep themselves from seeing it all is in TheTorah again.

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metaphysical masturbatory nonsense
And you believe in the bull shit of Torah that can easily be shown illogical, evil and false from a mystical point of view? LOL.

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DR FRIJOLES - the 50 year old dunce is teased. LOL. I am "sorry", pa.(smiles)

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been there done that, no big deal. and i, get to do it all over again.
First you claimed that you were a genius in Math, Physics and Chemistry but you repeatedly got all the answers to my questions on the fundamentals of these subjects wrong.

I mean that you're not even good enough for high school or undergrad Math, Physics and Chem.

Now, you're claiming that you know firsthand about the mechanism of death and about the dynamics of the disembodied state?

LOL.

You won't find these profound details in the Torah since it is ignorant about death and afterlife.

I laugh when I think about the Tanach labeling the soul as the breath of life (life-force).

From a mystical/metaphysical point of view, soul is much more than the ordinary life-force.

Anyway, the Torah is suited to your kind of inferior personality.

Be happy, smile.

Bye.

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And you believe in the bull shit of Torah that can easily be shown illogical, evil and false from a mystical point of view? LOL.
Your framing of the issue is always so juvenile that it doesnt warrant a response.

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SCIENTIFIC STUDIES IN OBE & SURVIVAL OF CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER DEATH - 1:

Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: A prospective study in the Netherlands

- Pim van Lommel, Ruud van Wees, Vincent Meyers, Ingrid Elfferich

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Any additional news on that? I heard about the Keith Richards story, but assumed he was making it up.
He claims that a few years ago he almost met Richards thru a mutual acquaintance. So, as to ingratiate himself in case he got the opportunity to meet Richards, he prepared a gift (supposedly he had heard that Richards was a fan of pyrotechnics, which was what the "bomb" really was).If you believe the newspaper at face value (which I am inclined) it sounds like the guy had some type of stroke which caused him to babble (i.e. call it a bomb for Keith) when the police came.

The guy was into model (and professional)rocketry - hence the explosive materials. He was also a private pilot. I remember the guy (if it was him) because he once had me up in his plane - ironically looping around the WTC (in the 80s when this was allowed and not a big deal).

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Your framing of the issue is always so juvenile that it doesnt warrant a response.
You're stupid.

You neither have the capacity for yogic experiences nor the fine intelligence to discuss mind-matter nor the ordinary intelligence to understand the fundamentals of math, physics, chem and logic.

You're not even a good human being.

You're heading for self-destruction, if you're not careful.

I don't know why I waste my yogic force and rush to de-possess you when you get possessed by adverse forces.

Grow up.

Anyway, chill.
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First you claimed that you were a genius in Math, Physics and Chemistry but you repeatedly got all the answers to my questions on the fundamentals of these subjects wrong.
I mean that you're not even good enough for high school or undergrad Math, Physics and Chem.
Now, you're claiming that you know firsthand about the mechanism of death and about the dynamics of the disembodied state?
LOL.
You won't find these profound details in the Torah since it is ignorant about death and afterlife.
I laugh when I think about the Tanach labeling the soul as the breath of life (life-force).
From a mystical/metaphysical point of view, soul is much more than the ordinary life-force.
Anyway, the Torah is suited to your kind of inferior personality.
Be happy, smile.
Bye.
rabbee: hey yoga unbearable fella, i have had more out of body experience than you can dream of. and without all the yoga hindu, bull-crap to try and explain it. and you can't even imagine, WHO actually came and gave to me TheTorah. i got it, from G-D first.

and the only one, who says i ever got anything wrong is you. so i am not putting, much faith in your opinion.

and for the most part, i got it right not answering any of your bull crap-tests. since i have noticed, even when others get the right answer. you magically mentally, claim it is wrong. how many times have you, tried to claim frijoles, was wrong in frijoles own field of work experience? your trying too hard to impress, with your unimpressionable arrogant attitude. in spite of the fact, you think the world needs you, when you are just what this world does not need. as if the world does not have, enough smart-alecs as is.

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and much more...
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
SCIENTIFIC STUDIES IN OBE & SURVIVAL OF CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER DEATH - 1:
Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: A prospective study in the Netherlands
- Pim van Lommel, Ruud van Wees, Vincent Meyers, Ingrid Elfferich
rabbee: ah! big deal. i got reported as killed in action in vietnam for 3 and a half days. because me and my body got separated, by a huge explosion. i stayed there and my body, flew away from me. and i, did not need no supra-mental yoga excuse to do that one either. everyone of them, happen to be the result of what G-D said. i even remember, my body lying on top of a mountain while i was taken to HEAVEN. that's how i know you can't go to HEAVEN, you have to be taken by invitation from G-D Only. and if you are not here in TheTorah, you don't stand a chance to get an invitation to HEAVEN. you'll never make it past SEETRA HA-ARCHA aka The-Being of Light. where you'll most likely be sent directly to the sleeping place the grave of your souls. so i know more about any possible life after death, than any of you have ever known. even this third or fourth life after death, here in always TheTorah. because that is all the chances you all and your grandmother get, to screw this all up. with your mental magic, of never being here in TheTorah from HaShem G-D. and there were thousands and thousands of other grandmothers of the whole world, before all of you and your also dufuss grandmother again. with your never having enough time, to be here in TheTorah. so that you mentally waste it away with all your never being here in This-Same-Story G-D is again giving.

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COMMON ERRORS MADE BY MIND-MATTER SCIENTISTS & RELIGIOUS TYPES WHERE CONSCIOUSNESS IS CONCERNED:

1) I am not impressed with all the stress put by scientific researchers or by religious types (including many yogis) on consciousness surviving the death of the body because this would imply that consciousness is independent from energy/matter thereby making consciousness an entity in its own right that's composed of substance - some unknown substance.

2) This inference as stated above is playing with words neither supported by logic nor experiment nor ordinary experience nor nor yogic experience.

3) Energy is the basis of existence in any state - gross or subtle.

4) Substance is concentrated energy (matter) of various gradations.

5) Dynamism of any kind - mental, emotional or physical - involves expenditure of energy to do work.

6) This well-established fact of the work-energy theorem gives us the clue to understanding the role of consciousness in nature and being.

7) There can be only one causal universal matrix to support all the various processes that arise from it as graded manifestations in nature and being and so all talk about consciousness being constituted of some unknown substance is illogical and not supported by evidence of any kind - scientific, ordinary or yogic.

8) By referring to the role of consciousness in life or to the survival of consciousness after death, a kind of separateness where consciousness is concerned is introduced in the whole debate of mind-matter.

9) The common talk about consciousness that we read or hear implies that it's an entity having its own unique substance that's independent of energy/matter and that by some mysterious mechanism consciousness fuses with energy/matter to form a mind-matter field.

10) So, what is this substance comprising consciousness? How does it do work? How is it related to energy/matter? No answers.

11) In a system, activity of any kind - mental, emotional, physical - implies energy at work, whereas order, disorder, manifestation, dissolution, transformation, precision and purpose indicate intelligence of varying degrees at work.
In any system, we see both of these essentials and since we cannot have 2 independent universal fields in existence - energy field and consciousness field - since logically speaking everything arises from one source and also because we have no evidence for the unknown substance making up consciousness (nor will such evidence ever be found either in labs or in yogic experience) thus we conclude that energy is itself innately conscious giving rise to a universal field of conscious energy. This conclusion avoids all the previous difficulties and makes better sense and is confirmed by logic, ordinary experiences, lab experiments and yogic experiences.

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I have had more out of body experience than you can dream of.
Describe the willed OBE giving all the details and explain how one emerges out of the body and from where and how one remains outside the body and what remains in the body during an OBE and what one experiences outside the body during an OBE and how does one re-enter the body and what happens if one tries to re-enter the body from say the feet region.

Give me all the details from your direct experiences with OBE.

And, show me where in the Torah is all this mentioned or discussed.

These are the most simple questions on mind-matter concerning the OBE that I have put to you.

(smiles in advance)
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Describe the willed OBE giving all the details and explain how one emerges out of the body and from where and how one remains outside the body and what remains in the body during an OBE and what one experiences outside the body during an OBE and how does one re-enter the body and what happens if one tries to re-enter the body from say the feet region.
Give me all the details from your direct experiences with OBE.
And, show me where in the Torah is all this mentioned or discussed.
These are the most simple questions on mind-matter concerning the OBE that I have put to you.
(smiles in advance)
rabbee: maybe i'll do that when i find, a non-arrogant idiot i can actually talk to. your request is not sincere enough, for me to give to you anything more than i have.

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