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#59865 Oct 8, 2013
NATURAL REMEDIES - MOSTLY HOGWASH

As part of the Yoga, I have studied alternate systems of medicines in detail and am unimpressed. These natural remedies work slowly and superficially and are effective only in treating certain lifestyle diseases. Nothing more. The air of sanctity surrounding nature treatments and all talk about the natural medicines reaching into your prana kosh (vital force), manomay kosh (mind force) and so on are hogwash and ignorant hype.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59866 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
KIDNEY STONES & PERSONALITY FLAWS:
From a subtle perspective, those persons who suffer from kidney stones are more likely to have unclean thoughts, hold grudges, have a low sense of fair-mindedness and who support perversions and fanaticisms of the religious or cultural kind.
and homosexual activity causes tsunamis

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#59867 Oct 8, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
This statement is incorrect. There are between 1.1 million and 1.5 million Sephardi in Israel. There are 5.75 million Jews in Israel. That's 19%- 26%.
You only get the 50% by adding the Mizrahim.
Ouch. Dont confuse the poor boy. I am sure he has no idea what you are referring to. And once he figures it out he will ignore it anyhow.
Voluntarist

United States

#59868 Oct 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
You misunderstood. I'm not adverse to natural remedies, provided there is hard, scientific evidence backing it up. The following chart shows those which hold promise.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/play/sn...
For natural "remedies" for which there is scant evidence of efficacy, you're taking a gamble with your health and will likely achieve negative results.
Proof through testimony through first hand witnesses is all the proof I need.

Youngevity® Clinical Research Study
Highlights:
Dietary supplement safety is the most highly
regarded aspect of any of the Youngevity®
various products and has become synonymous
with the Youngevity® name and brand.
Although Youngevity® only uses nutrients that
are absolutely needed by the body and in
forms that are highly bioavailable,
Youngevity® felt it was important to show
empirically the range and degree of safety
through looking at (3) factors – Genotoxicity,
Anti-Genotoxicity, and Anti-Mutagenicity. The
results of the experiments showed that Beyond
Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate Classic® at
various concentrations did not show any
genotoxicity.
When Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® were administered to healthy human
cell lines; they did not induce or create any
inflammatory response in levels above and
below the recommended dosage. Beyond
Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate Classic®
showed inflammation protective properties
and heightened the body’s protective
responses to possible inflammation.
When Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® were administered to healthy human
colon cells; there was no significant death of
healthy human cells compared to cancerous
colon cells. Ultimate Classic® killed 95% of
cancerous colon cells, 65% of cancerous liver
cells, 65% of cancerous stomach cells, and
30% of cancerous breast cells. Beyond Tangy
Tangerine® killed 60% of cancerous colon
cells, 65% of cancerous liver and stomach
cells, and 30% of cancerous breast cells.
Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® both exhibited efficient inhibition on
proliferation of cancerous cells at the
recommended dosage levels. Both products
showed there was inhibition of the growth of
more cancerous cells, preventing further
malignant multiplication and growth of
unhealthy cells.
The Clemson University studies have provided
Youngevity® greater confidence in their
products, scientist, formulators, and
manufacturing processes and helped to
understand some of the pathways the
Youngevity® products may be working
through in order to provide these benefits.
AL International CEO, Steve Wallach, adds,“At
Youngevity® we have always sought to
provide high quality and safe products, these
studies have added to the assurance we have
in all of the Youngevity® products.”

http://youngevity.com/news-events/al-internat...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59869 Oct 8, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Hugh. Getting caught up in a web of deception of his own making, and then continuing to squirm until the original point is so obfuscated, everyone just gives up on him and he considers it a victory.
But the thing is, its not obfuscated. His entire missionary vision is that Jews WORLDWIDE are controlled by the "Rabbis". This exchange cuts to that core. Sure, he can reduce his argument for the moment to only cover certain Israelis, but being that this is not helpful to his grander vision, he has no choice but to go back to the broader argument.

Basically, he has blundered into his own Waterloo.

Since: May 13

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#59870 Oct 8, 2013
CUROPATHY & SOUND EUGENIC PRACTICES:

1) Well, as with everything else, let's adopt a holistic approach where medical treatment is concerned and settle for CUROPATHY - a system of medicine that draws the best from various forms of treatments whether allopathy, Ayurveda, unani, Tibetan herbal, acupressure or homeopathy.

2) Above all let's stay away from damaging eugenic practices like incest/inbreeding and hypogamy, shun nerve and mind-body damaging blood rituals like circumcision and let's refrain from marrying partners with serious hereditary diseases of mind and body. This intelligent approach where marriage and procreation are concerned will augur well for humankind and succeed in bringing into the world stable, healthy, farsighted, disciplined and brilliant offshoots (offspring). Propitious genes can ward off or minimize all ills including diseases of body and mind and personality flaws and premature death.

Yeah!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59871 Oct 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof through testimony through first hand witnesses is all the proof I need.
PRAISE the LORD!

Since: May 13

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#59872 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

and homosexual activity causes tsunamis
ha ha ha

Anal sex is supposed to unbalance the nerve currents leading to mental distortions since the vital emerging from the physico-vital serves as a bridge to the mental realms...

I doubt this claim because if this had been true then in view of the intimate mind-matter connection the unbalance in the nerve currents and the mental distortions would have manifested as abnormal brain wiring.

Well, more research is needed on this subject.

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#59873 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

NO need to answer, obviously I already know the answer.
You don't know the answer supported by the reaction mechanism and calculations.

You don't even know the difference between oxidation state and valence and would not know how to begin where say calculating the oxidation state of S in the transformation of sodium thiosulfate to sodium tetrathionate is concerned.

Since: May 13

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#59874 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Conciseness and brevity is a skill that goes far in this world.
This is a concept that's useful in the humanities not in math/science where full details supported by math is needed and besides many complex calculations stretch into pages and pages.

Anyway, you won't know all this since your math and science are so poor.

Ok, then.

Since: May 13

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#59875 Oct 8, 2013
Faith in the medicine and trust in the doctor go a long way in affecting a fast and an effective cure.

Since: May 13

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#59876 Oct 8, 2013
Typo -

effecting not affecting

Since: May 13

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#59877 Oct 8, 2013
Yes, faith in the medicine and trust in the doctor are vital supports in bringing about a fast and an effective cure.

Since: Aug 11

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#59878 Oct 8, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof through testimony through first hand witnesses is all the proof I need.
Youngevity® Clinical Research Study
Highlights:
Dietary supplement safety is the most highly
regarded aspect of any of the Youngevity®
various products and has become synonymous
with the Youngevity® name and brand.
Although Youngevity® only uses nutrients that
are absolutely needed by the body and in
forms that are highly bioavailable,
Youngevity® felt it was important to show
empirically the range and degree of safety
through looking at (3) factors – Genotoxicity,
Anti-Genotoxicity, and Anti-Mutagenicity. The
results of the experiments showed that Beyond
Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate Classic® at
various concentrations did not show any
genotoxicity.
When Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® were administered to healthy human
cell lines; they did not induce or create any
inflammatory response in levels above and
below the recommended dosage. Beyond
Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate Classic®
showed inflammation protective properties
and heightened the body’s protective
responses to possible inflammation.
When Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® were administered to healthy human
colon cells; there was no significant death of
healthy human cells compared to cancerous
colon cells. Ultimate Classic® killed 95% of
cancerous colon cells, 65% of cancerous liver
cells, 65% of cancerous stomach cells, and
30% of cancerous breast cells. Beyond Tangy
Tangerine® killed 60% of cancerous colon
cells, 65% of cancerous liver and stomach
cells, and 30% of cancerous breast cells.
Beyond Tangy Tangerine® and Ultimate
Classic® both exhibited efficient inhibition on
proliferation of cancerous cells at the
recommended dosage levels. Both products
showed there was inhibition of the growth of
more cancerous cells, preventing further
malignant multiplication and growth of
unhealthy cells.
The Clemson University studies have provided
Youngevity® greater confidence in their
products, scientist, formulators, and
manufacturing processes and helped to
understand some of the pathways the
Youngevity® products may be working
through in order to provide these benefits.
AL International CEO, Steve Wallach, adds,“At
Youngevity® we have always sought to
provide high quality and safe products, these
studies have added to the assurance we have
in all of the Youngevity® products.”
http://youngevity.com/news-events/al-internat...
You can find testimonials to support virtually any psuedo-scientific alternative healing method (including faith healing, crystal healing, etc...). Like Frijoles pointed out the other day, best to keep your testimonials for church. If they really worked, there would be scientific evidence for it (like there is for the ones in the graph I linked to).

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#59879 Oct 8, 2013
If the mind is potent enough and can effectively act on the disordered energy fields of the body then the cure is quick and hardly depends on medicines and doctors.

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#59880 Oct 8, 2013
If one has sufficient amount of the Yogic Force then any disease condition can be cured almost instantly and even fractured bones and intensive bleeding and deep gashes can be dealt with in minutes.

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#59881 Oct 8, 2013
Good night. Need to rest. Later.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59882 Oct 8, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
If I recollect (which I do), you started this harangue with a claim that he was influential, as a Rabbi, to ALL Jews. Now we are arguing over how influential he is in Israel, only. Do you realize you are loosing ground?
HughBe---"Yosef wielded influence over ALL Israelis."

ALL is a PRETTY SMALL number of persons. I wonder what number and percentage are left after the ALL is taken away.

Frijoles---If I recollect (which I do), you started this harangue with a claim that he was influential, as a Rabbi, to ALL Jews.

HughBe--- The only way that I could have done such a thing is if I were at your level of intelligence and insanity. On countless occasions I have said that there are many Jews who are NOT into Judaism and so the RELIGIOUS influences of rabbis could NEVER be applicable to them. Note, here I am thinking of Jews who are CHRISTIANS, those who are into other religions and those who are into no gods.

Now, PROVE you LIE above.


Frijoles--- Now we are arguing over how influential he is in Israel, only. Do you realize you are loosing ground?

HughBe--- The thing is you cannot be LOSING your mind as that was achieved in the past.

Anyway, I shall not give you a long time to retract your LIE and failure to do so will make me post my original thoughts and it will not take me long to find them.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59883 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really.
Anyway, take care.
I stand by my words.

In terms of Wisdom, it is the ability to THINK and to use the available knowledge to do, say and THINK the correct or best way.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59884 Oct 8, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Good night. Need to rest. Later.
How are you coping with this new experience of needing to rest?

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