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yehoshooah adam

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
The subject is the self, the object is any entity that the self through its instrumental parts - mind, vital, body or sense organs - turns upon the object.
rabbee: no all fishermen, are sell fish.

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ECSTASY:

When the Ecstasy of say the Higher Mind Plane descends into the psychic, the person enters an ecstatic state and spontaneous tears of joy flow from his eyes, chest expands and heaves, white light radiates from the body, visions of the various typal phenomena of the Higher Mind Plane appear to his inner mind, subtle sounds are heard in the ears, fragrances are emitted from his body, limbs acquire a novel fluidity and lightness and he may enter waking trance in this state of Delight. Every cell in the body vibrates at this frequency.

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Cursing, abusing, threatening, maiming, murdering, rivalry, demanding blood sacrifices, infanticide, homicide, misogyny, tribalism, rage, bigotry and jealousy are the hall marks of an Asura - a Demon.

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Oct 1, 2013
 
I have to take the medical prescriptions, now. More numbness will follow.

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Dr Dean Radin, leading psi scientist, is an ex-Jew and a practicing Vedantist. So, what? He's not a Yogi.

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What does not count are mere beliefs, stupid rituals or superficial lab experiments. What counts are the direct experiences in super-sensuous states of consciousness and the bringing down of the power of those states into the frontal personality of mind, vital-emotional, body, circumconscient, subconscient and inconscient to transform them and to give the evolution a shove.

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THE FRONTAL PERSONALITY:

The frontal personality is an admixture of narrow selections from the universal forces and comprise -

1) Mind

2) Vital-Life Force-Emotions

3) Body

4) Circumconscient (aura or the force field radiating from the body up to a distance of 4 to 6 feet or more)

5) Subconscient

6) Inconscient ( a state of the involution at absolute zero where vibrational activity of matter ceases).

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Oct 1, 2013
 
Good night. The effects of the medicines are beginning to be felt.
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Eric wrote:
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asked and answered. 0 in u.s.
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HughBe---Explain the meaning and significance of "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL"

Eric---asked and answered. 0 in u.s.

HughBe--- Let me thank you for responding. However, what you have said has not addressed the MEANING of "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL".

The other part of your post will be dealt with when I respond to COR. That post will be for COR, you and Frijoles. All of you are jokers, to be kind.
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Consider his party affiliation and how many voters that represents. Also look as how many times he was reelected to the Senate - surely a sign of popularity and influence. Now tell me how INFLUENTIAL this man was. You may not have heard of him, but rest assured, every voting-age American who keeps up with current affairs has heard of him.
Now please explain to me why a loud-mouthed Sephardic Jew from Israel makes it on your radar, but a loud-mouthed evangelical politician in America who undoubtedly had influence over many more people does not?
COR---Consider his party affiliation and how many voters that represents

HughBe--- Who are you talking about?

COR---Now please explain to me why a loud-mouthed Sephardic Jew from Israel makes it on your radar, but a loud-mouthed evangelical politician in America who undoubtedly had influence over MANY MORE people does not?

HughBe--- The thing is you have FAILED to quantify the SPAN of influence for both men.

Yosef was the "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL" and yet you want to make out that he was NOT influential. All 3 of you meaning you, Eric and Frijoles have avoided critical questions and have all sought to diminish from Yosef and his influence.

Here are the lessons for all of you. First, Yosef was VERY VERY influential and your Christian nobody cannot be compared to him in terms of influence.

Second, STUDY what comes after and remain no longer in the dark.

1. "The looming death of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, an iconoclastic religious figure who CHANGED Israel’s political and religious landscape"

Comment: Certainly his lack of INFLUENCE CHANGED both the RELIGIOUS and POLITICAL arena.

2." pitting the largely Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR public against the mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS traditional one,

Comment: Note, "mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS" as opposed to "Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR" Get it? Yosef was the CHIEF Sephardi RABBI and so his INFLUENCE in religious matters was GREAT.

3."In the post, the young secular woman lamented the NATIONAL swansong over the rabbi, "

Comment: Certainly, "NATIONAL swansong" speaks to his lack of INFLUENCE and that is why it is NATIONAL.

4."He is considered by his followers – directly, ultra-Orthodox Sephardic public, and indirectly, the wider religious society – as a master sage, or Maran, and the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law. Hence, his health is no laughing matter."

Comment: Certainly,"the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law" has no INFLUENCE.

Plus, "his health is no laughing matter" shows lack of INFLUENCE.

THINK before you speak. ALL of you.
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Consider his party affiliation and how many voters that represents. Also look as how many times he was reelected to the Senate - surely a sign of popularity and influence. Now tell me how INFLUENTIAL this man was. You may not have heard of him, but rest assured, every voting-age American who keeps up with current affairs has heard of him.
Now please explain to me why a loud-mouthed Sephardic Jew from Israel makes it on your radar, but a loud-mouthed evangelical politician in America who undoubtedly had influence over many more people does not?
1.Source for previous post was Ynet.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-443...

2. I have no interest in any "loud-mouthed Sephardic JEW".

Yosef was the CHIEF RABBI and his words of HATE as a RABBI or CHIEF RELIGIOUS leader are of interest to me and to ALL honest and DECENT people including JEWS.

Yosef's words that I find interesting but are of no interest to you are below. Tell me why you don't have any interest in them? Is it because you are not included in them?

A. Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

B.“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.” From Haaretz

3. In terms of the American that you speak of, I shall remind you that I am NOT an American and I have no relatives or forefathers that came from America. However, I would NEVER be here without my forefathers from Israel and thus an interest with things Israel. Moreover, highlighting the HATE of Yosef came about because of words spoken by others.
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No, it's genetic inferiority.
Yes, it is genetic inferiority which makes you intellectually challenged, and, boy, you claim to be part Jewish when it's evident that many Jews are intellectually so superior to most other communities.
Perhaps, your Jewish ancestry has been camouflaged by your other ancestry (no offense intended).
Forgiven, MON.
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Not at all.
You're confusing the gift of the gab with superior intelligence.
You're command of English is average, or a bit above average, but you're fluent where this average or a bit above average knowledge of English is concerned which means that you use it effectively - mostly in demagoguery and in sophistry to beguile the gullible which is typical evangelical behavior.
Where intelligence and logic are concerned you're way below average.
As for poise, class and style, you have none.
Besides, being fanatical locks up the little intelligence you have.
Learn and don't argue.
Ok, get it, Mon?
Joel---You're confusing the gift of the gab with superior intelligence.

Hugh---

1. You need to try the art of THINKING and do less of the feeling thing. When I speak of my IQ I am speaking about MEASURED results and not on how I FEEL.

2. Lesson for the day. In prisons, worldwide, there are many persons who are semi-literate and who have the IQ of a GENIUS. Make the connection.

3. Much love, MON.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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HughBe wrote:
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2." pitting the largely Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR public against the mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS traditional one,
Comment: Note, "mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS" as opposed to "Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR" Get it? Yosef was the CHIEF Sephardi RABBI and so his INFLUENCE in religious matters was GREAT.
Hughbe, you dont know sht about Israeli politics or culture. And you know even less about world Jewish politics and culture.

Shas is a POLITICAL party. The Rabbi was a chied POLITICIAN. Get it?

Sure, he had influence. Over his party, his followers, and his sympathizers. Who are in Israel.

Ask any Jew outside of Israel if they follow Shas, and virtually 99% percent of them will look at you like you are crazy and say no.

I am not sure how many times I have to state this. COR and Eric already stated it in their own ways.

Stop being dense.

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HughBe wrote:
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COR---Consider his party affiliation and how many voters that represents
HughBe--- Who are you talking about?
COR---Now please explain to me why a loud-mouthed Sephardic Jew from Israel makes it on your radar, but a loud-mouthed evangelical politician in America who undoubtedly had influence over MANY MORE people does not?
HughBe--- The thing is you have FAILED to quantify the SPAN of influence for both men.
Yosef was the "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL" and yet you want to make out that he was NOT influential. All 3 of you meaning you, Eric and Frijoles have avoided critical questions and have all sought to diminish from Yosef and his influence.
Here are the lessons for all of you. First, Yosef was VERY VERY influential and your Christian nobody cannot be compared to him in terms of influence.
Second, STUDY what comes after and remain no longer in the dark.
1. "The looming death of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, an iconoclastic religious figure who CHANGED Israel’s political and religious landscape"
Comment: Certainly his lack of INFLUENCE CHANGED both the RELIGIOUS and POLITICAL arena.
2." pitting the largely Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR public against the mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS traditional one,
Comment: Note, "mostly Sephardic, RELIGIOUS" as opposed to "Ashkenazi liberal SECULAR" Get it? Yosef was the CHIEF Sephardi RABBI and so his INFLUENCE in religious matters was GREAT.
3."In the post, the young secular woman lamented the NATIONAL swansong over the rabbi, "
Comment: Certainly, "NATIONAL swansong" speaks to his lack of INFLUENCE and that is why it is NATIONAL.
4."He is considered by his followers – directly, ultra-Orthodox Sephardic public, and indirectly, the wider religious society – as a master sage, or Maran, and the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law. Hence, his health is no laughing matter."
Comment: Certainly,"the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law" has no INFLUENCE.
Plus, "his health is no laughing matter" shows lack of INFLUENCE.
THINK before you speak. ALL of you.
I'll tell you where YOU have failed, Hugh.

You refer to a FIVE-term Republican United States Senator who was also a founding member of the "Moral Majority" as a "Christian nobody", yet you quiver at the thought of a "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL" saying something you find unpleasant.

YOU have NOT quantified why Yosef has a span of influence greater than Jesse Helms when Jesse Helms and his supporters CLEARLY had more followers.

And what of the other influential evangelicals I posted about? Jerry Fallwell? Pat Robertson? Are they all nobodys too with little influence?

Why the obsession with Yosef, but complete ignorance and silence with Jesse Helms and the other evangelicals? Your anti-semitic bias shines through as usual.
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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: shephardi = Iberian; ashkenazi = european
Thanks for the response but I wanted answers to the questions below. Note, since then, I have provided information that would cover these questions either directly or indirectly.

Is Yosef well known in the US?

How big is the Sephardi group as a RELIGIOUS group in Israel?

Compare it in terms of size and influence to other religious groups .

What is the size of all those who would be classified as Sephardi?

What is the Global influence of Yosef?

Are you saying that he has no influence outside of Israel?
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HughBe---Explain the meaning and significance of "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL"
Eric---asked and answered. 0 in u.s.
HughBe--- Let me thank you for responding. However, what you have said has not addressed the MEANING of "Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL".
The other part of your post will be dealt with when I respond to COR. That post will be for COR, you and Frijoles. All of you are jokers, to be kind.
That part was dealt with by www.google.com
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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Overcome the need to sleep and the sex urge long ago.
I am retiring for now as I am feeling more unwell than say an hour ago.
I will miss you as and when I leave India for treatment abroad that will last months.
All said and done, sorry for the rather blunt speak in the above posts.
In debates, I don't take sides like a myopic parochialist and have learned to stay impartial and mentally alert from a very young age - my late parents always insisted on objectivity and fair-mindedness.
I have a lot of respect for your humane ways, as I pointed out a few days ago.
Do better.
Take care, Mon.
Best Regards.
Joel---I will miss you

HughBe--- Naturally as you have taste and class.
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I am really glad to know that scans have ruled out tumour. That is a big relief.
Joel,
if you have a physical problem, modern medicine can help, but modern medicine does not have a cure for problems related to mind. Modern medicines will keep you only sedated and tranquilized but that is no solution.
If you believe that your ex-master is really after you and is hurting you, then the best solution to piss him off and to keep him away from you, IS to get a few pretty and sexy girls to be present around you. They should stay with you.
You are lonely, you need company and you should explain to them why are they needed. One of them should bathe you, one should give you a sensual massage thrice a day and one should sleep naked with you, daily.
When the evil master sees that, he will back off and will be powerless to attack you. He won't be able to stand scantily dressed beautiful and sexy girls.
Hope you remember that Jesus immediately lost the power behind him, as soon as a woman touched his cloak?
This is a very sincere suggestion, Joel. You are young, you can afford and you can do that.
Please give it a try. It is worth trying. You might feel better.
Best wishes
BMZ
BMZ---modern medicine does not have a cure for problems related to mind. Modern medicines will keep you only sedated and tranquilized but that is no solution.

If you believe that your ex-master is really after you and is hurting you, then the best solution to piss him off and to keep him away from you, IS to get a few pretty and sexy girls to be present around you. They should stay with you.

You are lonely, you need company and you should explain to them why are they needed. One of them should bathe you, one should give you a sensual massage thrice a day and one should sleep naked with you, daily.

When the evil master sees that, he will back off and will be powerless to attack you. He won't be able to stand scantily dressed beautiful and sexy girls.

HughBe--- EXCELLENT points, BMZ.
HughBe

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My sweet children, I KNOW that the material is heavy and that as children you have responded, in part, without THINKING.

Being a good father, I shall give you extra time to THINK before you speak, again. Use the time allocated wisely. I shall return later.

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