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#58641 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?
No one, including Jesus.

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#58642 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---Clearly, the stories are Greek and Roman, not Jewish. Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.
HughBe--- A typical approach of a Judahite. Are you an American?
Are you saying that a Jew cannot be a Roman?
What would you call a Jew born in the city of Rome?
Prove that Luke was not a ROMAN Jew.
The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
Thats a tangent

The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.

My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
Eric

Bellwood, IL

#58643 Sep 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats a tangent
The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.
My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly. They did away with circumcision. They did away with dietary restrictions. They adopted Roman debauchery as Christian festivals (Saturnalia became Christmas by edict of Constantine). AND they made their "Savior" into a more Roman friendly personage by having him born of a deity and a mortal--just like so many of their mythological personages.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58644 Sep 22, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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No one, including Jesus.
HughBe---Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?

Adam--No one, including Jesus.

HughBe--- So how comes your rabbis do such things? Do you realize that by doing such things the rabbis have equated themselves to God?

In essence rabbinic Judaism is IDOLATRY where the gods are the rabbis who overturn the commandments of God.

Finally you need to understand that Jesus was the Law-giver. He was the Angel of the Lord. Yes He was the Angel which the cloud followed and even your rabbis know that the cloud followed Jehovah.

They know at least these things but lack the natural or spiritual insights to make the connection. In some of the cases they just want to retain their status as gods and DOMINATE and mislead the Jewish people.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58645 Sep 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats a tangent
The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.
My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
Eric---Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.

Frijoles---Thats a tangent

HughBe--- It is ONLY a tangent to those without understanding and or integrity. The point that I am making is that the NT is JEWISH and so his remarks cannot be unimportant, hence my focus and questions.

Study and try to link my words now and then address them. Best of luck.

HughBe--- Are you an American?
Are you saying that a Jew cannot be a Roman?
What would you call a Jew born in the city of Rome?
Prove that Luke was not a ROMAN Jew.

The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58646 Sep 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
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If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly. They did away with circumcision. They did away with dietary restrictions. They adopted Roman debauchery as Christian festivals (Saturnalia became Christmas by edict of Constantine). AND they made their "Savior" into a more Roman friendly personage by having him born of a deity and a mortal--just like so many of their mythological personages.
Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly

Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.

Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"

Sit in a corner and study it.

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#58647 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe---Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?
Adam--No one, including Jesus.
HughBe--- So how comes your rabbis do such things? Do you realize that by doing such things the rabbis have equated themselves to God?
In essence rabbinic Judaism is IDOLATRY where the gods are the rabbis who overturn the commandments of God.
Finally you need to understand that Jesus was the Law-giver. He was the Angel of the Lord. Yes He was the Angel which the cloud followed and even your rabbis know that the cloud followed Jehovah.
They know at least these things but lack the natural or spiritual insights to make the connection. In some of the cases they just want to retain their status as gods and DOMINATE and mislead the Jewish people.
Once again you make unfounded charges you are unable to prove regarding the second commandment. Jesus gave no laws, he claimed he would fulfill them, whatever that irrelevancy means.

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#58648 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly
Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.
Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"
Sit in a corner and study it.
Let me clue you in...They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58649 Sep 22, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Once again you make unfounded charges you are unable to prove regarding the second commandment. Jesus gave no laws, he claimed he would fulfill them, whatever that irrelevancy means.
What are you really saying, Adam?

What are these UNFOUNDED charges that you speak of?

Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?

Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?

By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?

Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58650 Sep 22, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Let me clue you in...They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment.
Who has BEWITCHED you into such a belief? God called them so even in IDOLATRY.

Again this is another example of the CORRUPT teachings of your rabbis. Your doctrine is a LIE.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#58651 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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What are you really saying, Adam?
What are these UNFOUNDED charges that you speak of?
Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?
Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?
By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?
Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish

You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58652 Sep 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish
You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
Listen well boy, you have a criminal mind. You and chinks like you falsely accuse people of antisemitism as a means of stifling TRUTH.

Chinks is NOT= Chinese.

YOU answer my questions, you anti-TRUTH and every thing good.

What are these UNFOUNDED charges?
Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?
Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?
By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?
Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58653 Sep 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish
You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
Which religion is Adam a part of?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58654 Sep 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish
You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
Regardless of what you and Adam claim about his status as a Jew and more importantly his status as a JUDAHITE his view,see below, is the private and TWISTED view of Judaism.

No one else in the world is so STUPID as to hold such a position.

His assertion, "They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment."

Note, All who DENY the Jewishness of any Jew is a JEW hater.

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#58655 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Which religion is Adam a part of?
either let him answer in his own words again, or stop being a lazy sht and scroll back a few pages and find out yourself.

You need to read the posts sometimes instead of offering soliloquys.

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#58656 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Regardless of what you and Adam claim about his status as a Jew and more importantly his status as a JUDAHITE his view,see below, is the private and TWISTED view of Judaism.
No one else in the world is so STUPID as to hold such a position.
His assertion, "They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment."
Note, All who DENY the Jewishness of any Jew is a JEW hater.
I happen to agree with Adam on that point. So do most people.

Again, just because you have private ideas doesnt mean anyone other you necessarily buys into them.

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#58657 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Listen well boy, you have a criminal mind. You and chinks like you falsely accuse people of antisemitism as a means of stifling TRUTH.
Chinks is NOT= Chinese.
YOU answer my questions, you anti-TRUTH and every thing good.
What are these UNFOUNDED charges?
Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?
Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?
By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?
Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
rant of the highest order

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#58658 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly
Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.
Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"
Sit in a corner and study it.
You are still stuck on a tangent.

Go back and reread Erics post. This time highlight the main point.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#58659 Sep 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly
Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.
Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"
Sit in a corner and study it.
rabbee: which one is that, of the alleged as only pick ten?

G-D spoke all these statements, saying:

IAM HaShem*, your G-D, WHO has taken you out of the land of egypt, from the house of slavery.

you shall not recognize the g-ds of others in MY Presence. you shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of that which is in heavens above the earth or below or in the water beneath the earth. you shall not prostrate yourself to them nor worship them, for IAM HaShem*, your G-D - a jealous G-D, WHO visits the sins of fathers upon children to the third and fourth generation, for my enemies; but WHO knows kindness for thousands [of generations] to those who love ME and observe MY commandments.

you shall not take TheName of YHVH* in vain, for HaShem* will not absolve anyone who takes His Name in vain.

remember TheSabbath Day to sanctify It. six days shall you work; and accomplish all your work; but TheSeventh Day is Sabbath to HaShem*, your G-D*; you shall not do any work,- you, your son, your daughter, your slave, your maidservant, your animal, and your converts within your gates - for in six days HaShem* made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and HE rested on TheSeventh Day. therefore HaShem* blessed TheSabbath Day and Sanctified It.

honor your father and mother, so that your days shall be lengthened upon the land that HaShem* your G-D* gives to you.

you shall not kill; you shall not commit adultery; you shall not steal; you shall not bear false witness against your fellow.

you shall not covet your fellow's house. you shall not covet your fellow's wife, his maidservant, his ox, his donkey, nor anything that belongs to your fellow.

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#58660 Sep 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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you shall not covet your fellow's... donkey,..."
Hughbe violates that one right off the bat....

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