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#57755 Sep 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Dont be so optomistic about yourself.

I ignore you because you shower us with a large volume of nonsensical masturbations.

I dont even bother to scan it for content.

I doubt anyone else does either.
Ok, no problem.

You're still my favorite poster who I love and adore.

Stay safe.

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#57756 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Adam---I am interested in the original and care LITTLE for what language it is written in.
HughBe---Driven by the fact that YOU do not care you were moved to ask the question that follows.
Adam---If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?
HughBe---Let me tell you a secret, many Jews in the time of Jesus spoke Greek.
Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.
OK, do you have anything they wrote of Jesus in any language

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#57757 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Wow, I guess that you have NEVER read the Tanach. Tell me about the ORIGIN of the word Jew/Israelite.
How did it come about?
What exactly does that have to do with who is a Jew?

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#57758 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Conversion to what? Is it Eastern RELIGION?
Tell me about the Jews who are NOT religious and for you I give an example ATHEISTS.
In what sense are they JEWS?
Jews are both a religious and ethnic group. Some Jews are not observant but nevertheless they are Jews through ethnicity
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57759 Sep 4, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i have avoided nothing, that you have all already avoided here in TheTorah. as you must ask a true question, to expect a true response here in TheTorah thrice again. and yet you cannot understand, the term thrice again. for all the true questions, you could ask of your grandfather adam, all you ask for is lies to approve of your vanity.
It was not for you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57760 Sep 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Deep
not
Hugh---Being your father you ought to know what Satan would do. Nevertheless even you know that his doings would not be in harmony with the way that I travel.

Frijoles---Deep

HughBe--- Correct and more importantly it is factual.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57761 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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OK, do you have anything they wrote of Jesus in any language
Adam---If the early Christians were Jews, wouldn't they have written in Hebrew to convince the Jews of the messiah?

HughBe---Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.

Adam---do you have anything they wrote of Jesus in any language

HughBe--- Unfortunately no as my personal collections of the originals were all destroyed.

Do NOT forget to address the matter of Hellenism.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57762 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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What exactly does that have to do with who is a Jew?
HughBe---Tell me about the ORIGIN of the word Jew/Israelite.
How did it come about?

Adam----What exactly does that have to do with who is a Jew?

HughBe--- Are you DRUNK? Take your time and reread my comments and get someone with sense to explain them to you.

You really ought to take all the time that is needed for you to understand my words. Don't worry, I know that it will take a long time and I am now assuring you that I am prepared to let you have the time needed.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57763 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Jews are both a religious and ethnic group. Some Jews are not observant but nevertheless they are Jews through ethnicity
Son EVERY people under the sun starting from ancient days are both religious and ethnic. However, their RACE is independent of RELIGION and moreover in any RACE of people there are those who are NOT religious.

Now stop this self-deception that you are practicing.

Finally, Israel of old NEVER ever followed the laws of God. So your man-made and TWISTED idea of who is a Jew has NOTHING to do with God. He gave the name Israel to Jacob and it was NOT conditional upon religious observance.

Your masters have misled you and you lack both the sense and the sight to know this self-evident truth.

Take a break and THINK.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57764 Sep 4, 2013
"Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they HOLD fast DECIT, they refuse to return."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57765 Sep 4, 2013
I shall return
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57766 Sep 4, 2013
1. Clarify your own thoughts and explain the things that you have in mind when you speak of "contemporaneous".

2.Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.

3. YOU were asked to explain the text(Psalm)

4.have you ever read the ORIGINAL of the Tanach?

5.Are you really saying that unless someone is a contemporary of an event or personality they cannot WRITE on the subject?

6.Prove your words, Adam---"The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."

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#57767 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Son EVERY people under the sun starting from ancient days are both religious and ethnic. However, their RACE is independent of RELIGION and moreover in any RACE of people there are those who are NOT religious.
Now stop this self-deception that you are practicing.
Finally, Israel of old NEVER ever followed the laws of God. So your man-made and TWISTED idea of who is a Jew has NOTHING to do with God. He gave the name Israel to Jacob and it was NOT conditional upon religious observance.
Your masters have misled you and you lack both the sense and the sight to know this self-evident truth.
Take a break and THINK.
I didn't know the French, the Chinese and the Japanese are both a religion and an ethnicity. There is only 1 race and its called the human race. You might as well date yourself to antebellum times when you refer to 'races'.

What Israel or Jews do or do not do is not your domain. Who put you in charge of determining religiosity and observance? But that really isn't the issue. DNA shows Jews are more closely related to each other than to any other people on the planet. Therefore, they represent a people and an ethnicity in spite of your racism.

Israel never followed the laws? Which ones are you referring to?

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#57768 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
1. Clarify your own thoughts and explain the things that you have in mind when you speak of "contemporaneous".
2.Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.
3. YOU were asked to explain the text(Psalm)
4.have you ever read the ORIGINAL of the Tanach?
5.Are you really saying that unless someone is a contemporary of an event or personality they cannot WRITE on the subject?
6.Prove your words, Adam---"The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."
Second Request...

Are you going to provide the original N T text or not?

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#57769 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
"Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they HOLD fast DECIT, they refuse to return."
Who's the sovereign in the land of Israel today?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#57770 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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I didn't know the French, the Chinese and the Japanese are both a religion and an ethnicity. There is only 1 race and its called the human race. You might as well date yourself to antebellum times when you refer to 'races'.
What Israel or Jews do or do not do is not your domain. Who put you in charge of determining religiosity and observance? But that really isn't the issue. DNA shows Jews are more closely related to each other than to any other people on the planet. Therefore, they represent a people and an ethnicity in spite of your racism.
Israel never followed the laws? Which ones are you referring to?
I am watching all this with amusement.

Hughbe, a viciously homophobic and antisemetic Jamaican who doesnt even have the guts to call himself Christian (its like pulling teeth to get him to admit that) is preoccupied with redefining Jews and Judaism. Despite the fact he has never knowingly met an observant (i.e. orthodox) Jew up front live.

He has yet to agree with the obvious concept of ethnoreligious.

Anyone whio disagrees with him is considered a "spawn of satan"

yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57771 Sep 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi,
How're you doing?
Wishing you well.
Take care.
rabbee: well as much as i would, like to wish you well. you keep screwing it up, with your own typographical phalanges.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57772 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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I didn't know the French, the Chinese and the Japanese are both a religion and an ethnicity. There is only 1 race and its called the human race. You might as well date yourself to antebellum times when you refer to 'races'.
What Israel or Jews do or do not do is not your domain. Who put you in charge of determining religiosity and observance? But that really isn't the issue. DNA shows Jews are more closely related to each other than to any other people on the planet. Therefore, they represent a people and an ethnicity in spite of your racism.
Israel never followed the laws? Which ones are you referring to?
HughBe----Son EVERY people under the sun starting from ancient days are both religious and ethnic. However, their RACE is independent of RELIGION and moreover in any RACE of people there are those who are NOT religious.

Adam---I didn't know the French, the Chinese and the Japanese are both a religion and an ethnicity.

HughBe--- It goes to show that you know very little.

Adam---There is only 1 RACE and its called the human race. You might as well date yourself to antebellum times when you refer to 'races'.

HughBe--- noted

Adam---What Israel or Jews do or do not do is not your domain.

HughBe--- Really? Explain.

Adam---Who put you in charge of determining religiosity and observance?

HughBe--- I am reminded of this passage "Who made thee a prince and a judge over us?"

To answer your question, I shall tell YOU that God gave me ability and the authority to declare His TRUTH. I have the God given authority to represent Him and to call ALL distortions of His words LIES.

Adam--- DNA shows Jews are more closely related to each other than to any other people on the planet.

Explain--- Are Jews more closely related to each other than Chinese are related to each other? Do you know who are chinese? What about Africans?

The DNA of Jews that that you speak of and that shows RELATEDNESS is is a RELIGIOUS doctrine or is it a BIOLOGICAL fact ?

Adam--- Therefore, they represent a people and an ethnicity in spite of your racism.

HughBe--- Spoken like a blind DUMB sheep. Were you being a RACIST when you said "DNA shows Jews are more closely related to each other than to any other people"

Adam---Israel never followed the laws? Which ones are you referring to?

HughBe--- The laws of God.

1.Tell me why they went into captivity.

2. Tell me the reasons for their expulsion from the Holy Land given that in your sick mind they were OBSERVANT.

3. Explain the text which follows and then call your Maker a LIAR.

Jeremiah 7-- "SINCE the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt UNTO this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them:

26 Yet they HEARKENED NOT unto ME, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57773 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Who's the sovereign in the land of Israel today?
HughBe---"Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they HOLD fast DECIT, they refuse to return."

Adam---Who's the sovereign in the land of Israel today?

HughBe--- Your rhetorical question is basically saying that both your God and the prophet Jeremiah are LIARS.

Note, the quote above were NOT my words.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57774 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Second Request...
Are you going to provide the original N T text or not?
Adam---Second Request...

HughBe--- YOU are fortunate that this is only your second request. I am not so lucky as I have been REPEATEDLY asking you to respond to the following---

1. Clarify your own thoughts and explain the things that you have in mind when you speak of "contemporaneous".
2.Have you every heard of the word, Hellenism? Explain it.
3. YOU were asked to explain the text(Psalm)
4.have you ever read the ORIGINAL of the Tanach?
5.Are you really saying that unless someone is a contemporary of an event or personality they cannot WRITE on the subject?
6.Prove your words, Adam---"The NT was written by anonymous authors well after the Jewish Christians died."

Adam---Are you going to provide the original N T text or not?

HughBe--- Clearly you are NOT a native speaker of English. Get someone to explain these words.

Unfortunately NO as my personal collections of the originals were all destroyed.

__________

HughBe---Tell me about the ORIGIN of the word Jew/Israelite.
How did it come about?

Adam----What exactly does that have to do with who is a Jew?

HughBe--- Are you DRUNK? Take your time and reread my comments and get someone with sense to explain them to you.

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