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Voluntarist

United States

#56076 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>You would be wrong. The eyewitness testimony was that Zimmerman was pursuing Trayvon from left to right. Caught him and fro minutes the two stood upright throws punches. Testimony was that Zimmerman was told to stay in the car, he did not.
Also, two crucial points are that Trayvon was a child and Zimmerman and almost 30 year old man. A child can not consent to mutual combat. Second, Trayvon was not arriving in the neighborhood, he was already there at home watching the NBA All star game, ran out of snacks and went to 711 and was hurrying back to catch LeBron and Kobe go at it. Talking with and fighting Zimmerman was not his objective, saving his life was. He called Rachel because he feared for his life and once he made that call expressing his fear, Zimmerman legally had no stand your ground or fear for his life defense.
Who threw the first punch?

Also, why did msnbc doctor the 911 tapes.

He was not a child not a boy he was a young man.
These same types of children as you call them, I call them thugs , stick up people , places and car jack.
These are young thugs not defenseless boys.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56077 Jul 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
First, there are all kinds of people killing "Blacks" in Jamaica and getting away with it. Blacks are being killed to the tune of over 300 per 100,000 population per year in Jamaica.
Second, did you happen to read my discourse with Volunteer on Martin and Zimmerman? Maybe you should before mouthing off. 56061 and 64
Eric---Blacks are being killed to the tune of over 300 per 100,000 population per year in Jamaica.

Hugh--- what is the population of Jamaica?

How many murders are committed per year in Jamaica?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#56078 Jul 19, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
So where's the citation from your end? Surely, if this really happened, you have a link to an article about it, do you not? Until then, it's just unverified chit chat - something you are very good at.
<quoted text>
First of all, I see women in the U.S. wearing burqas all the time. I cannot speak for Europe as I don't live there. However, it is my understanding that laws that do partially ban burqas and hijabs were passed as a reaction to incidents whereby your fanatical comrades decided to strap bombs on women and hide them underneath their Burqas. Hence, laws were passed to make it harder to do that. You can blame your fellow jihadists for that, not "The West". If your people played nice and stopped intentionally trying to harm civilians, maybe they wouldn't have to put restrictions on them.
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.

Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.

Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
Voluntarist

United States

#56079 Jul 19, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed, and Martin was a child and so his standard was that of a child and he could not consent to mutual combat. The other thing is this, anyone who knows what "involuntary manslaughter" is would know that a failure to not even make that verdict could only be racist or ignorance based.
Blame that on the prosecutor he was the one that was grand standing on murder, you have involuntary manslaughter at best.
The prosecution put on a horrible case even with the bias that the judge had the jury still acquitted.
I presume that the state had a horrible case otherwise they would of sought an indictment.
Daddy Rosenfelders MD

Sonoma, CA

#56081 Jul 19, 2013
Hiya Leslie,
Seems likely that what we have here with MRN #234994Z8 is a case of classic hyser-perflurginnen sphincter rash from apparent bowel distension and obstruction caused by too much stuff remaining for too long in the colon. The colon will not evacuate due to what has been described as negative peristalsis brought about by abuse of prescription drugs and some unusual performances during bathing. The earlier recommendation for rash site salt-rubs appears to me to be somewhat drastic at this point, and I would prefer a regimen of reduced to NO self manipulation during bathing and a return to the prescribing Physician for an honest cost benefit evaluation of your patient's drug regimen.
Regards,
Luther.....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56083 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I was speaking about Europe dear, where there "IS" Ban on Burqa.
The Virus would soon reach USA, USA is a "little retarded in this as compared to Europe"....but it will catch on as it is doing on those Homosexual laws.
One by one all states are lining up. Do not worry, it is only a matter of time.
Why are you talking about Europe when neither you nor I live there? Might as well be talking about New Zealand - that is equally relevant

Now you are comparing clothing bans with homosexuality?

I cant recollect a time on this forum where you ever got the culture and politics of the US right.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56084 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.
Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.
Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
What you promote as "Islam" has virtually no commonality with what is practiced in the U.S. Thank Allah.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#56085 Jul 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Please see my remarks to Mr. Frijoles.
Obviously you are the one who think world starts with USA and ends where USA boundary ends.
Islam is universal religion, from north pole to south pole.
1. Still no citation from you. I'll take that as admission of defeat from you on that point.

2. What Europe does is their business, not mine. Europe also has a VAT tax. You don't see me complaining about that either, do you?

3. I gave you the reason why Europe has those laws. You seem to have conveniently side stepped discussion around that. Not surprising.

4. Yes, Islam is a global phenomenon. Unfortunately, viruses have a way of spreading globally.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#56086 Jul 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Extra warm wishes to Frijoles, Stefano and Hugh.
It sounds like you have quitted this forum. If it's so goodbye and good luck. Talk with you few months later.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56089 Jul 20, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Still no citation from you. I'll take that as admission of defeat from you on that point.
2. What Europe does is their business, not mine. Europe also has a VAT tax. You don't see me complaining about that either, do you?
3. I gave you the reason why Europe has those laws. You seem to have conveniently side stepped discussion around that. Not surprising.
4. Yes, Islam is a global phenomenon. Unfortunately, viruses have a way of spreading globally.
French police station attacked amid tensions over ban on Muslim face veils

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/2861be0...

"....The Friday night violence came after a gathering of about 200-250 people to protest the arrest of a man whose wife was ticketed Thursday for wearing a face veil. The husband tried to strangle an officer who was doing the ticketing, the prosecutor said...."

-

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#56090 Jul 20, 2013
Covert Stealth Ops wrote:
<quoted text>Most? Strange word. It implies that you took a poll of all of your group and at least 51% agreed and became most. 49% would not be most.
We took a poll at the weekly meeting of the Global Jewish Conspiracy book club (meeting every Wednesday -- bring a hot dish)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56091 Jul 20, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
We took a poll at the weekly meeting of the Global Jewish Conspiracy book club (meeting every Wednesday -- bring a hot dish)
Last time I brought a hot dish, my wife found out about it, and I was in the dog house for a week.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#56093 Jul 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
French police station attacked amid tensions over ban on Muslim face veils
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/2861be0...
"....The Friday night violence came after a gathering of about 200-250 people to protest the arrest of a man whose wife was ticketed Thursday for wearing a face veil. The husband tried to strangle an officer who was doing the ticketing, the prosecutor said...."
-
Why am I not surprised?
Voluntarist

United States

#56094 Jul 20, 2013
And the conspiracy continues
Voluntarist

United States

#56095 Jul 20, 2013
Oklahoma City Bomb
Report
This report
on the
bombing of
the Murrah
Federal
Building in
Oklahoma
City was
prepared by
Brigadier
General
Benton K.
Partin,
USAF (Ret.)
and dated
July 30,
1995.
The report was submitted to the U.S.
Congress and is a matter of the
Congressional Record.
Intro to the Oklahoma City Bombing Report
PART ONE: Bomb Damage Analysis
PART TWO: Analysis of Graphic Evidence
PART THREE: Analysis of Photographic
Evidence
PART FOUR: Conclusion and Appendix
Letter from Heidelberg to Judge David L.
Russel
Response to Heidelberg from Judge David L.
Russel
Letter from Gen Partin to U.S. Sen. Trent
Lott
Resume of Brig. Gen. Benton R. Partin USAF
(Ret.)
Voluntarist

United States

#56097 Jul 20, 2013
This Hollywoodesque version dovetailed nicely with the story that the evil Brothers Tsarnaev were
in a running gun battle with the cops, flinging home-made pressure cooker bombs at their brave
pursuers as the pair attempted to escape the long arm of the law.
Then we were told Dzhokar was being treated by Israeli doctors who “have abundant past
experience treating victims of terror… because they’re from Israel.”
“Tsarnaev is in stable condition but that because of wounds to his throat, he may never be able to
speak again,” The Blaze reported, feeding the fantasy.
In May, the story changed. It was said
Tsarnaev didn’t have a bullet wound in his
throat, but was cut.“I did see a throat
injury. To me it looked more like a knife
wound,” said Officer Jeff Campbell of the
Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority
Transit Police SWAT Unit.“It wasn’t a
puncture hole. It was a slice where it was
spread open, possibly a piece of shrapnel
from one of the explosives that they were
using the night before. It didn’t look like a
bullet wound to me. It looked like a cut of
some kind.” Campbell was supposedly part of
the team that apprehended Tsarnaev, so if
anybody knew about his wounds, it would be
Campbell and his fellow SWAT officers.
CNN later edited out the comment about the
throat wound made by Campbell.
Voluntarist

United States

#56098 Jul 20, 2013
Now we have a photo of Tsarnaev allegedly
surrendering. It was taken by a
Massachusetts State Police photographer. CBS
Boston reported on Thursday the
photographer, Sgt. Sean Murphy , gave the
photos to the Boston Magazine because he
was upset by the Rolling Stone’s recent
“glamorized” cover photo of the suspected
terrorist. Murphy is under investigation for
releasing photos to the magazine.
Note the absence of a throat wound in the photo.
The photo underscores the fact the government lied about Tsarnaev’s throat wound, as the photo
clearly shows. Is there anything else the government is lying about? Is it possible the entire event is
a government contrived fiction?
Now it’s time for somebody to release the video frame capture of the Brothers Tsarnaev dropping
their bomb-laden backpacks, photos we are assured exist but were never released. Is it possible this
is a lie as well?
Finally, it looks like the government no longer even cares about the quality of its deception. Earlier
this week, a man we are told was Dzhokar appeared in court to plead not guilty to terrorism
charges. However, according to a former wrestling teammate interviewed by the Boston Globe, the
man in court “didn’t look like” Tsarnaev. Moreover, the man brought into court had a thick accent
and Tsarnaev does not, as a cell phone video of him interacting with a child reveals (see video
below).
http://www.infowars.com/dzhokar-tsarnaevs-thr...
Voluntarist

United States

#56099 Jul 20, 2013
The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick’s
“Eyes Wide Shut”(pt. I)
July 8, 2013 | Category: Featured, Movies and TV | 383 comments
“Eyes Wide Shut” was promoted as a steamy, suspenseful movie
starring the “It” couple of the day: Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
While the actors were prominently featured in the movie, it is
everything around them that told the true story of “Eyes Wide
Shut”. Stanley Kubrick’s attention to detail and symbolism gave
the movie an entire other dimension – one that cannot be seen by
those who have their eyes wide shut. This multiple-part series will
look at the hidden symbolism of Kubrick’s final film.
I remember when I first watched Eyes Wide Shut , back in 1999.
Boy, did I hate it. I hated how slow everything was, I hated how
Nicole Kidman tried to sound drunk or high and I hated seeing
Tom Cruise walk around New York looking concerned. I guess I
reacted the same way critics did at the time the movie came out
and thought:“This movie is boring and there is nothing hot about
it.” More than a decade later, equipped with a little more
knowledge and patience, I re-watched the movie … and it blew my
mind. In fact, like most Stanley Kubrick films, an entire book could
be written about the movie and the concepts it addresses. Eyes
Wide Shut is indeed not simply about a relationship, it is about all
of the outside forces and influences that define that relationship. It
is about the eternal back-and-forth between the male and female
principles in a confused and decadent modern world. Also, more
importantly, it is about the group that rules this modern world – a
secret elite that channels this struggle between the male and
female principles in a specific and esoteric matter. The movie
however does not spell out anything. Like all great art, messages
are communicated through subtle symbols and mysterious riddles.
Stanley Kubrick unexpectedly died only five days after submitting
the final cut of the movie to Warner Bros, making Eyes Wide Shu t
his swan song. Considering the fact that Eyes Wide Shut is about
an occult secret society that eliminates those who cross its path,
some theories arose about Kubrick’s death and its suspicious
nature. Did he reveal to the public too much, too soon? Maybe.
Let’s look at the main themes of Kubrick’s last creation.
The Modern Couple
The stars of Eyes Wide Shut were the “It” couple of 1999: Tom
Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Those who were expecting the movie to
be a sort of voyeuristic experience showing hot scenes of the
couple were probably very disappointed. The audience rather got a
cold, egoistic and profoundly unsatisfied couple, one that seems to
be tied together not by pure love, but by other factors, like
convenience and appearances. While the couple is very “modern”
and “upper-class”, the forces that keep it together are the result of
basic, primal and almost animalistic behavior. If we look at the
instinctive behavior of humans and animals, males primarily look
for females that have good child-bearing qualities while females
look for a strong provider. Remnants of this behavior still exist
today as males tend to display wealth and power to attract
females while females showcase their beauty to attract males. In
Eyes Wide Shut , the couple perfectly follows that instinctive script
Voluntarist

United States

#56100 Jul 20, 2013
Tom Cruise’s character is called Dr. Bill … as in dollar bill. Several
times during the movie, Dr. Bill either waves his money or his
“doctor badge” at people to get them to do what he wants. Bill is
part of the upper class and his dealings with people of the lower
class are often resolved with money.
In order to get this taxi driver to wait for him in
front of the elite mansion, Dr. Bill tears up a
hundred dollar bill and promises him to give him
the other half when he comes back. Dr. Bill’s motto
is probably “Everybody has a price”. Does his own
wife have a price?
Played by Nicole Kidman, Alice lost her job in the art world and is
now fully supported by her husband’s salary. While she lives very
comfortably, Alice appears to be extremely bored with her life as a
stay at home mother. The name Alice is most likely a reference to
the main character of Alice in Wonderland – a fairy tale about a
privileged girl who is bored with her life and who goes “through
the looking glass” to end up in Wonderland. In Eyes Wide Shut,
Alice is often shown staring at the looking glass – grooming
herself or … maybe looking for something more to life.
Alice is often shown in front of the mirror and
making herself pretty. At the beginning of the
movie, almost everyone who talk to her mention her
appearance. Her daughter Helena (maybe named
after Helena of Troy, the most beautiful woman in
the world) follows in her footsteps.
Promotional images for the movie feature Alice
kissing Bill but looking at herself in the mirror,
almost as if she was seeing an alternate reality.
While the couple shows signs of fatigue, Bill and Alice put on their
“happy masks” when it is time to attend social events. Like the
elite people they socialize with, there is a big difference between
the facade they put on and reality.
Voluntarist

United States

#56101 Jul 20, 2013
Brushing With the Elite
Bill and Alice go to a classy party given by Victor Ziegler, one of
Bill’s wealthy patients. Judging from Victor’s house, he is not
simply rich, he is part of the ultra-elite. While his party is very
elegant and is attended by highly cultured people, it doesn’t take
long for the viewers to realize that this facade hides a disgusting
dark side. Also, small details inserted by Kubrick hint to a link
between the party and the occult ritual that occurs later in the
movie.
When entering the party, the first thing we see is
this peculiar Christmas decoration. This eight-
pointed star is found throughout the house.
The star at Zeigler’s house is nearly identical to the
ancient symbol of the star of Ishtar.
Knowing Kubrick’s attention to detail, the inclusion of the star of
Ishtar in this party is not an accident. Ishtar is the Babylonian
goddess of fertility, love, war and, mostly, sexuality. Her cult
involved sacred prostitution and ritual acts – two elements we
clearly see later in the movie.
“Babylonians gave Ishtar offerings of food and drink on
Saturday. They then joined in ritual acts of lovemaking,
which in turn invoked Ishtar’s favor on the region and its
people to promote continued health and fruitfulness.”
- Goddess Ishtar, Anita Revel
Ishtar herself was considered to be the “courtesan of the gods” and
had many lovers. While inspired in bed, she was also cruel to the
men that got attached to her. These concepts will constantly
reappear in the movie, especially with Alice.
During the party, Bill and Alice go their separate ways and are
both faced with temptation. Alice meets a man named Sandor
Szavost who asks her about Ovid’s Art of Love. This series of
books, written during the times of Ancient Rome, was essentially a
“How to Cheat on Your Partner” guide, and was popular with the
elite of the time. The first book opens with an invocation to Venus
– the planet esoterically associated with lust. Interestingly enough,
Ishtar (and her equivalents in other Semetic cultures) was
considered to be the personification of Venus.
Sandor drinks from Alice’s glass. This trick is taken
right out of Ovid’s The Art of Love. It sends Alice a
message that is not very subliminal:“I want to
exchange fluids with you”.
Sandor’s name might be a reference to the founder of the Church of
Satan: Anton Szandor Lavey. Is this Kubrick’s way of saying that
this man, who urges Alice to cheat on her husband, is a part of the
occult elite and its decadent ways? The Hungarian man is
apparently skilled in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) as he
nearly hypnotizes Alice with well calculated phrases about the
futility of married life and the necessity of pursuing pleasure.
Meanwhile, Bill is discussing with two flirtatious models who tell
him that they want to take him to “where the rainbow ends”. While
the meaning of this enigmatic phrase is never explicitly explained
in the movie, symbols talk for themselves.
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