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Jesus spotted on dog. This is great.

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If I had a dime for every missionary who claimed their parents / grandparents / aunt-uncle / close friend ... were survivors ... I'd have a lot of dimes.
He is not a missionary though. Just a harmless and friendly loon.

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Voluntarist wrote:
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A subcontract is part of the whole, you ding dong.
So is being an individual in society.

Obviously you have no real business experience.

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former res wrote:
Jesus spotted on dog. This is great.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/jesus_chri...
ROFL!!!
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I lost track -- do demi-gods count?
Bygones.
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Jun 14, 2013
 
Top National Security Experts: Spying Program Doesn’t
Make Us Safer, and Spying Leaks Don’t Harm America
Posted on June 13, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
NSA Leaks Help – Rather than Hurt – the United States
America’s top national security experts say that the NSA’s mass
surveillance program doesn’t make us safer … and that
whistleblowers revealing the nature and extent of the program
don’t harm America.
The top counter-terrorism czar under Presidents Clinton and Bush
– Richard Clarke – notes :
The just-revealed surveillance stretches the law to its breaking point
and opens the door to future potential abuses
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I am troubled by the precedent of stretching a law on domestic
surveillance almost to the breaking point. On issues so fundamental
to our civil liberties, elected leaders should not be so needlessly
secretive.
The argument that this sweeping search must be kept secret from
the terrorists is laughable. Terrorists already assume this sort of
thing is being done. Only law-abiding American citizens were
blissfully ignorant of what their government was doing.
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If the government wanted a particular set of records, it could tell
the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court why — and then be
granted permission to access those records directly from specially
maintained company servers. The telephone companies would not
have to know what data were being accessed. There are no technical
disadvantages to doing it that way, although it might be more
expensive.
Would we, as a nation, be willing to pay a little more for a program
designed this way, to avoid a situation in which the government
keeps on its own computers a record of every time anyone picks up
a telephone? That is a question that should have been openly asked
and answered in Congress.
The author of the Patriot Act and chairman on the House
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security,
and Investigations – Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner – says:
Lawmakers’ and the executive branch’s excuses about recent
revelations of NSA activity are “a bunch of bunk”
The government has gone far beyond what the Patriot Act
intended, and that section 215 of the act “was originally drafted to
prevent data mining” on the scale that’s occurred
Whistleblower Edward Snowden is not a traitor, and
Sensenbrenner would not have known the extent of abuse by the
NSA and the FISA court without Snowden’s disclosures
The Patriot Act needs to be amended to protect Americans’ privacy
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The former head of the NSA’s global digital data gathering
program, William Binney:
Confirms Snowden’s allegations about the mass surveillance
program
Says that revealing the details of the spying program will not
harm national security … and that government officials are only
mad because it exposes their overreaching
Says that massive surveillance doesn’t work to make us safer
Says that he set up the NSA’s system so that all of the information
would automatically be encrypted , so that the government had to
obtain a search warrant based upon probably cause before a
particular suspect’s communications could be decrypted. But the
NSA now collects all data in an unencrypted form, so that no
probable cause is needed to view any citizen’s information. He
says that it is actually cheaper and easier to store the data in an
encrypted format: so the government’s current system is being
done for political – not practical – purposes. Binney’s statements
have been confirmed by other NSA whistleblowers
Says that the government is using information gained through
mass surveillance in order to go after anyone they take a dislike to
Says that the NSA’s spying programs have brought us incredibly
close to “a turnkey totalitarian state”
Former FBI counterterrorism agent Tim Clemente confirmed
Snowden’s allegations, and told CNN:
“Welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we
speak whether we know it or like it or not”
“No digital communication is secure”
Senator Jon Tester – a member of the Committee on Homeland
Security and Governmental Affairs, and the Approrpriations
Committee’s Subcommittee on Homeland Security – says Snowden
didn’t harm national security, and that his leaks were helpful:
The information that they wrote about was just the fact that NSA
was doing broad sweeps of foreign and domestic phone records,
metadata.[T]he fact of the matter is is I don’t see how that
compromises the security of this country whatsoever.
And quite frankly, it helps people like me become aware of a
situation that I wasn’t aware of before because I don’t sit on that
Intelligence Committee.

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Frijoles wrote:
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So is being an individual in society.
Obviously you have no real business experience.
Irrelevant we are talking about business contracts.
I have business experience mostly in retail.
Guess what, if you are subcontracting it is based on some form of contract or agreement that your employer is performing.

Are you always this demented so early in the morning?
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former res wrote:
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Gay folks will tell you they knew they were "different"
from early childhood playing in the sandbox.
Are you suggesting it's all an act?
Until you can prove otherwise.

If gay folks "knew they were different" ,could be a sign of a personality disorder.

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Think what you want.
But there are three posters here who self-identify as Jewish, and who accept each other as Jewish. And all three have called you FOS.
If, say I criticize Russia, I don't expect Russians to make me compliments.

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well you most likely, never heard of platte valley (sparkling burgundy). since i only had, a quarter acre of grapes. even though i had made wine, beer, and white lightning, since i was 9 years old. even worked a short while, for a family called the smalldones. till it got to be, way too nervous and dangerous for me. without mentioning, the interest the taf, bic, and fib agencies had in them.
Never heard about it.

What you have discovered at the age of 12?

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...If gay folks "knew they were different" ,could be a sign of a personality disorder.
...says the guy with the paranoid personality disorder ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_persona... )

Paranoia Symptoms
http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhca...
Paranoid symptoms may range from mild to severe. They depend on the cause but, generally, a person who is paranoid may:
Be easily offended
Find it difficult to trust others
Not cope with any type of criticism
Assign harmful meanings to other people’s remarks
Be always on the defensive
Be hostile, aggressive and argumentative
Not be able to compromise
Find it difficult, if not impossible, to ‘forgive and forget’
Assume that people are talking ill of them behind their back
Be overly suspicious – for example, think that other people are lying or scheming to cheat them
Not be able to confide in anyone
Find relationships difficult
Consider the world to be a place of constant threat
Feel persecuted by the world at large
Believe in unfounded ‘CONSPIRACY THEORIES’.

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STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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If, say I criticize Russia, I don't expect Russians to make me compliments.
So you enjoy being an obnoxious ahole. Tell me something new today.

And technically speaking, that would make you a troll.

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former res wrote:
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I see, so you are now changing your argument.
Before you said he was a liar because he would not comply with your request and prove his claim.
Now you are saying he is a liar regardless, that you already know this via your own prior knowledge.
Unfortunately this will have to be a draw as the topic of the disputed point would be far too subjective to quantify and/or prove definitively one way or the other.
On a side note, I realize you are an emotional, demonstrative people, but calling a fellow poster a "liar" seems a bit harsh and unnecessary.
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Not childish. More cliquish.
Very intelligent people tend to congregate in our country.
Never changed my arguments.

You have taken a sentence of mine out the context and from it you developed a thought. I just remembered you the context and show you why your thought is not valid.

WOW you call yourself very intelligent. LOL

Intelligence or high intelligence has nothing to do with congregation. In general people tend to congregate when they have common interest(s).

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Irrelevant we are talking about business contracts.
I have business experience mostly in retail.
Guess what, if you are subcontracting it is based on some form of contract or agreement that your employer is performing.
Are you always this demented so early in the morning?
Retail - how interesting.

I made that quip because in non-retail business one had to gravitate towards the opportunities, OR create the opportunities - in order to sustain the business. If that reality makes one biased, then every single person engaged in nonretail business is biased. Which doesnt add a whole lot to our discussion.

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So you enjoy being an obnoxious ahole. Tell me something new today.
And technically speaking, that would make you a troll.
The fact is you can't get criticism on your personality, opinions religion, Israel, America, etc.

You are just a poor idiot with a deep parochial character, who is learning now how to use a remote control. LOL

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Incorrect on at least 2 counts:
"Christianity (from the Ancient Greek: &#935;&#961;&#953; &#963;&#964;&#953; &#945;&#957;&#972; &#962; Christianos[1] and the Latin suffix -itas) is a MONOtheistic[2] and Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings as well as the Old Testament.....
Christianity began as a Jewish sect in the mid-1st century..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
Christains pray to one god. Do not let the Trinity confuse you. All one god.
"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity defines God as three divine persons or hypostases:[1] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".[2] A nature is what one is, while a person is who one is.[3][4][5]
The Trinity is considered to be a mystery of Christian faith.[6] According to this doctrine, there is only one God in three persons. Each person is God, whole and entire.."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
But very intelligent people require Wikipedia to affirm that Christianity was born as Jewish sect and that is a monotheistic religion and to explain what Trinity is?

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In point of fact, that's not true. Most early Xtians were Greeks and Romans. The first Xtian churches were built in Rome, not Jerusalem.
But in point of fact his first followers were Jews.
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>The story goes that Jesus came from Judea ... well, who knows? I'm sure the story sounded good when they told it.
Tell it to Netzarim
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Until you can prove otherwise.
If gay folks "knew they were different" ,could be a sign of a personality disorder.
Which is it?

An affectation or a mental illness?

You can't have it both ways.

Or are they "crazy like a fox?"

You seem very enlightened.
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STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Never changed my arguments.
You have taken a sentence of mine out the context and from it you developed a thought. I just remembered you the context and show you why your thought is not valid.
WOW you call yourself very intelligent. LOL
Intelligence or high intelligence has nothing to do with congregation. In general people tend to congregate when they have common interest(s).
You've never heard of MENSA?

At least you still have a sense of humor.

Ever been to the Galleria Borghese? Enjoyed it very much.

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