Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 71939 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Newsday.

Voluntarist

United States

#53569 May 28, 2013
#7 According to the World Bank, U.S. GDP
accounted for 31.8 percent of all global
economic activity in 2001. That number
dropped to 21.6 percent in 2011.
#8 The United States has fallen in the global
economic competitiveness rankings compiled
by the World Economic Forum for four years in
a row.
#9 According to The Economist, the United
States was the best place in the world to be
born into back in 1988 . Today, the United
States is only tied for 16th place .
#10 Incredibly, more than 56,000
manufacturing facilities in the United States
have been permanently shut down since 2001.
#11 There are less Americans working in
manufacturing today than there was in 1950
even though the population of the country has
more than doubled since then.
#12 According to the New York Times, there
are now approximately 70,000 abandoned
buildings in Detroit.
#13 When NAFTA was pushed through
Congress in 1993, the United States had a
trade surplus with Mexico of 1.6 billion
dollars. By 2010, we had a trade deficit with
Mexico of 61.6 billion dollars .
#14 Back in 1985, our trade deficit with China
was approximately 6 million dollars (million
with a little "m") for the entire year. In 2012,
our trade deficit with China was 315 billion
dollars . That was the largest trade deficit that
one nation has had with another nation in the
history of the world.
#15 Overall, the United States has run a trade
deficit of more than 8 trillion dollars with the
rest of the world since 1975.
#16 According to the Economic Policy
Institute, the United States is losing half a
million jobs to China every single year.
#17 Back in 1950, more than 80 percent of all
men in the United States had jobs. Today,
less than 65 percent of all men in the United
States have jobs.
#18 At this point, an astounding 53 percent of
all American workers make less than $30,000
a year.
#19 Small business is rapidly dying in
America. At this point, only about 7 percent of
all non-farm workers in the United States are
self-employed. That is an all-time record low.
#20 Back in 1983, the bottom 95 percent of
all income earners in the United States had 62
cents of debt for every dollar that they
earned. By 2007, that figure had soared to
$1.48 .

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53570 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Well now, if you're going to get into who has the better cucumber.
.
Yes, that was poor word choice, and not even anatomically correct.
Voluntarist

United States

#53571 May 28, 2013
#21 In the United States today, the wealthiest
one percent of all Americans have a greater
net worth than the bottom 90 percent
combined .
#22 According to Forbes, the 400 wealthiest
Americans have more wealth than the bottom
150 million Americans combined .
#23 The six heirs of Wal-Mart founder Sam
Walton have as much wealth as the bottom
one-third of all Americans combined.
#24 According to the U.S. Census Bureau,
more than 146 million Americans are either
"poor" or "low income".
#25 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49
percent of all Americans live in a home that
receives direct monetary benefits from the
federal government. Back in 1983, less than a
third of all Americans lived in a home that
received direct monetary benefits from the
federal government.
#26 Overall, the federal government runs
nearly 80 different "means-tested welfare
programs", and at this point more than 100
million Americans are enrolled in at least one
of them.
#27 Back in 1965, only one out of every 50
Americans was on Medicaid. Today, one out
of every 6 Americans is on Medicaid, and
things are about to get a whole lot worse. It
is being projected that Obamacare will add 16
million more Americans to the Medicaid rolls.
#28 As I wrote recently , it is being projected
that the number of Americans on Medicare will
grow from 50.7 million in 2012 to 73.2 million
in 2025.
#29 At this point, Medicare is facing unfunded
liabilities of more than 38 trillion dollars over
the next 75 years. That comes to
approximately $328,404 for every single
household in the United States.
#30 Right now, there are approximately 56
million Americans collecting Social Security
benefits. By 2035, that number is projected to
soar to an astounding 91 million.
Voluntarist

United States

#53572 May 28, 2013
#31 Overall, the Social Security system is
facing a 134 trillion dollar shortfall over the
next 75 years.
#32 Today, the number of Americans on Social
Security Disability now exceeds the entire
population of Greece , and the number of
Americans on food stamps now exceeds the
entire population of Spain.
#33 According to a report recently issued by
the Pew Research Center, on average
Americans over the age of 65 have 47 times
as much wealth as Americans under the age of
35.
#34 U.S. families that have a head of
household that is under the age of 30 have a
poverty rate of 37 percent.
#35 As I mentioned recently, the
homeownership rate in America is now at its
lowest level in nearly 18 years.
#36 There are now 20.2 million Americans
that spend more than half of their incomes on
housing. That represents a 46 percent
increase from 2001.
#37 45 percent of all children are living in
poverty in Miami, more than 50 percent of all
children are living in poverty in Cleveland, and
about 60 percent of all children are living in
poverty in Detroit.
#38 Today, more than a million public school
students in the United States are homeless.
This is the first time that has ever happened in
our history.
#39 When Barack Obama first entered the
White House, about 32 million Americans were
on food stamps. Now, more than 47 million
Americans are on food stamps.
#40 According to one calculation, the number
of Americans on food stamps now exceeds the
combined populations of "Alaska, Arkansas,
Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia,
Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maine,
Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New
Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota,
Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South
Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and
Wyoming."
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/4...
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53573 May 28, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
....Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South
Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and
Wyoming."
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/4...
Did you really have to vomit all over our forum?

talk about an oral aggressive
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53574 May 28, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
And now they have a new jackass running around.
I prefer to think of myself as possibly a Cheetah.

But very funny.

I'll add another funny icon.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53575 May 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, that was poor word choice, and not even anatomically correct.
How not correct?

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#53578 May 28, 2013
Life doesn't have an UNDO button, so watch your karma, always.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53579 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
How not correct?
"If the fertility is new then FR soils are just as good as mine. If the fertility is old, then his wife will have better cucumbers than me..."

Males have cucumbers, females have melons, false comparison to make unless you are Hughbe (who clearly has elements of both and/or cross dressing proclivities).

Better wording (with no puns) would be "..If the fertility is old, then his wife will GROW better cucumbers than me..."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53580 May 28, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
French is too complex in the sense that it's not straight forward and at the same time it's a rigid language that does not permit innovation in terms of creation of new twists to words or to grammar rules.
My late mom who had a master's degree in English Lit spoke fluent French and had tremendous style.
France as a holiday destination has lost its appeal....I used to love Paris at one point but no longer.
What strikes me about the French is their clear mental perspicuity ( If I'm not wrong I think France holds the record for receiving the highest number of Field's Medals for mathematics - math happens to be my favorite subject) and great sense of aesthetics.
France is in decline and the immigrants have things worse there. The banlieues are Muslim ghettos - awful sight.
Better stick to Angelina's, Marcovaldo and to the uber-stylish Christian Dior haute coutre clothes salon. LOL.
good post
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53581 May 28, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the law of matter says that unlike electrostatic charges and unlike magnetic poles attract but a little higher up the scale of existence we see the law of consciousness putting in an appearance with its emphasis on attraction being a case of likes attracting likes except in the sexual department where heterosexuality is concerned.
ROFL.
So Frijoles and company are no exceptions to the general law of consciousness. Indeed, they are exceptions to the exception of the general law of consciousness.

HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53582 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
It is on you to prove he was born and lived and esp that he was the son of your god.
It is not on me to prove a negative.
And, again, your education and thinking come into question.
You must prove that he did not exists. Certainly, you have very good EVIDENCE to support your utterance for surely you would never rely on inspiration from an unclean orifice.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53583 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I prefer to think of myself as possibly a Cheetah.
But very funny.
I'll add another funny icon.
Thats funny. I assumed (the ego that I am) that ATF was referring to ME.

And I still gave it a funny judge.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53584 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't win em all.
What is the last war Jamaica won?
<quoted text>
Moron.
Who can't admit when he was wrong.
Not a gentleman but a very small, petty person.
I'm disappointed in you.
<quoted text>
Thank you for showing me inside the mind of a truly muddled, confused thinker.
One of many who believes in fantasies and builds his whole way of life around them.
I believe it would suck to be you. At least for me it would.
HughBe--- I am not a Korean. It seems that YOUR greatness resided more in the mind and this was demonstrated in the war with Korea..

Former--Can't win em all.

HughBe--- But you can win the BIG ones like Grenada with a total area of 133 sq. miles. Massive little island.

Former--What is the last war Jamaica won?

HughBe--- We are NOT like others who are LYING WARMONGERS.

HughBe---What would happen is that you will develop a bad technique but although it is bad or not what is regarded as best practice it could still be effective.

Former---Moron.

HughBe--- I am not surprised that the wisdom went over your head.

Go consult. Let me give you some help in your research. Check out hurdlers and see if a person with a bad technique can be effective. Ok, genius.

Former---Who can't admit when he was wrong.

HughBe--- You have to speak based on your limitations. Forgiven.

Former--Not a gentleman but a very small, petty person.

HughBe--- Small is relative and even then you could NEVER be speaking about INTELLECT, CHARACTER and JOINT size. In all departments you would be a source of amusement by comparison.

Former---I'm disappointed in you.

HughBe--- I am HAPPY in me. I give myself great delight.:D

Former--We know the cars are made by humans. We agreed on that, right?

HughBe--- I accept but I don't know. As far as I am concerned cars could be made by Martians. I have no EVIDENCE of the makers..

Former---Thank you for showing me inside the mind of a truly muddled, confused thinker.

HughBe--- Clearly YOU have evidence of the makers I do not have any.

What I have is a car made by a company. I know about my car from my own experience and that of others but beyond that I know NOTHING about the company/maker. Now, anything that I would or could say about the maker would be based on the CAR itself.

Follow closely. I could say that the maker makes good cars, reliable cars, durable cars, affordable cars etc.

However, I DO NOT KNOW about the ADMINISTRATION of the maker's company, its FINANCIAL position, its HR policies, the MORALE in the company, its PAY packages in essence I KNOW NOTHING about the car maker but you do GENIUS.

Finally, I don't know anything about the staff who actually were involved in the production of the car but you do.

Former---I believe it would suck to be you. At least for me it would.

HughBe--- Clearly you enjoy living outside of ALL things wise and wonderful.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53585 May 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
As you can see, you dont have to BELIEVE in the in history of the holiday in order to celebrate it meaningfully.
Whether or not these fine young men here are secular, atheist, or agnostic is not the point (I also know MANY self identified religious Christians who also dont believe the nonsense of the history).
----------
However, if you are interested in promoting your side point, by YOUR rules, I would label these fine young men as ethnically Christian but religiously not.
And by your SAME rules (regardless of whether I believe in these rules or not - which I don't), I would declare, that these fine young men also demonstrate that Christianity is OBVIOUSLY NOT the ONLY religion of the Christians, that there are Atheist Christians Agnostic Christians, etc etc etc....
Does Former call himself a SECULAR CHRISTIAN?

Recall that is what is being discussed.

I told you that I have dinner with my extended family at Christmas but I don't celebrate it. I have NEVER given my children Christmas gifts and they know why we attend the dinners.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53586 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You sound to me about as smart at the average Jamaican.
Former---as smart at the average Jamaican

HughBe--- well said,Cruff. I KNOW it is an error and if I did NOT know that then I would be at your level.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53587 May 28, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we do all that and enjoy it very much.
And we have stocking hanging over the fireplace.
And I even go to church from time to time.
Also Christian weddings, funerals, confirmations etc.
Frijoles, a flocker--How do you celebrate Christmas? Do you give presents? Have a tree? Eat a meal with your greater family?

Former, the other FLOCKER---Yes, WE do all that and enjoy it very much.

And WE have stocking hanging over the fireplace.

And I even go to church from time to time.

Also Christian weddings, funerals, confirmations etc.

HughBe--- Frijoles asked him the following--

1.How does HE celebrate Christmas?
2. If HE gives presents?
3. If HE has a Christmas tree?
4. If HE eats a meal with HIS family?

His response about "Christian weddings, funerals, confirmations etc." are ALL irrelevant to the matter of celebrating Christmas.

Clearly as an atheists he does NOT go to the weddings of his fellow atheists or persons of a non-Christian faith.

His answer--"Yes, WE do all that and enjoy it very much." is pure CRAP. He was asked about HIMSELF. Note, my(HughBe) family does ALL of that but I don't.

Another deceptive and IDIOTIC answer by Former ""And WE have stocking hanging over the fireplace."

So what Former, DO YOU put up stockings in your home? You were being asked about yourself and NOT your family.

Former---And I even go to church from time to time.

HughBe--- No doubt to renew your ATHEISTS vows.

Dear Former answer the question now. Make another attempt.
1.How do YOU celebrate Christmas?
2. Do YOU give presents?
3. Do YOU have a Christmas tree?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53588 May 28, 2013
bi
jogee

Welkom, South Africa

#53589 May 28, 2013
The Jews are the most racist people on this Earth.Israel is an Apartheid state.Land grabbers.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53590 May 28, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
"If the fertility is new then FR soils are just as good as mine. If the fertility is old, then his wife will have better cucumbers than me..."
Males have cucumbers, females have melons, false comparison to make unless you are Hughbe (who clearly has elements of both and/or cross dressing proclivities).
Better wording (with no puns) would be "..If the fertility is old, then his wife will GROW better cucumbers than me..."
Ok, I get it.

Any excuse to reference the classic Animal House scene for me.

Huggy is lurking, along with his Vienna finger sausage in tow!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Pinos Altos Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Low water pressure and dirty water May 29 Dirty and mad 2
Review: Custom Steelworks May 29 savant 3
News About the cover May 20 Bruce Brown 1
Review: High Country Collision Specialist (Jul '14) May 18 angry customer 2
News Local surgeon injured while bicycling May 12 best wishes 1
Federal law enforcement agencies conduct meth s... May 10 A view from the c... 2
News Lawsuit filed in federal court alleges murder c... (Jul '14) May 7 Pepper Dine 2
More from around the web

Pinos Altos People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]