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#53233 May 25, 2013
The highest form of satanism = Judaism.

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#53234 May 25, 2013
former res wrote:
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I see your confusion.
You may want to study a thing called a syllogism - example:
Major premise: All humans are mortal.
Minor premise: All Greeks are humans.
Conclusion: All Greeks are mortal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism
(Which doesn't meant that all mortals are Greek.)
So, though all fairy tales are stories, it does not follow that all stories are fairy tales.(Nor did I say that.)
If is not your fault where you were raised and educated.
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If I understand you correctly, just because something might be a fairy tale doesnt mean it isnt worthy of respect. Fairy Tales have their own types of truths and deeper meanings. Much like fables.

I dont get why some people here would automatically find a fairy tale designation as demeaning (unless one is so insecure with their ID). Something doesnt have to be "authentic" or literal to be meaningful.

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#53235 May 25, 2013
RELIGIO-GENOTYPES:

1) Religious rituals that're unrelated with the true laws of nature and being mold the mind, vital and body in perverse ways - the more barbaric or sadistic a religion is, the more perverse will be its beliefs and practices and these in turn have an adverse effect on the believer's psychology, vital and body which are expectedly transferred down the generations giving rise to perverted genotypes based on religious observances.

2) When puerile, illogical and sadistic religious habits influence personality formation then a damaging effect on the family gene pool takes place with the result that abnormal human types are born and if this damaging effect is coupled with disastrous eugenic practices like incest and/or hypogamy then the results are terrible.

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#53236 May 25, 2013
Myths have meaning only if they correspond to specific movements of consciousness that can be replicated and verified.

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#53237 May 25, 2013
Truth is that which can be replicated, verified and used for the uplift of the individual and the collectivity.

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#53238 May 25, 2013
Scriptural revelations are mostly hallucinations of deranged minds.

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#53239 May 25, 2013
A hallucination harms the individual's mind-matter apparatus but it is far more dangerous when the deranged individual seeks to impose his hallucinations, especially of the damaging types, involving wars, mass murders, blood sacrifices, fanaticism and barbarous punishments on society.

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#53240 May 25, 2013
CONCLUSION:

Scripture should be viewed with the greatest suspicion if its revelations cannot be replicated, verified and applied for the greatest good of the individual as well as the collectivity irrespective of race, creed, nationality and social status.

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#53241 May 25, 2013
From global warming to fluoride: Why do people deny science?

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/25/from_global_w...

...So what the average human should fear is not global warming but rather local climate destabilization, i.e., a change in the relative stability and predictability of his or her own local situation. This does not only mean unusually severe hurricanes and tornadoes, or unexpected droughts and flooding. Such sad catastrophes affect only a small part of the world at any one time. Of even greater concern should be local changes that may seem trivial yet have a huge impact on our living conditions and economies.

Try a casual poll of your friends across the planet who have lived in the same place for a while, and ask,“How’s the weather been lately in your neck of the woods?” There is a high probability that the answer will include words such as “strange,”“unusual,” and “weird.” And in some cases your friends will not mention warming but rather unusual cold spells, or rain and snow that fell with unusual frequency at unexpected times.

The general trend seems to be increasing dryness in previously dry areas and increasing wetness in previously wet areas. It will not take many more such changes to disrupt local economies and agriculture in a manner that destabilizes local societies. And the impact of local events can be global. For example, very high temperatures in Russia in 2010 were unpleasant, but the bigger consequences were forest fires and loss of wheat production. The unprecedented 2011 floods in Thailand raised the costs of computer hard disks worldwide because some key local factories were damaged. And in 2012, the great drought in North America decimated the corn crop and ignited forest fires that destroyed many homes....
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#53242 May 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I admit I am not the most educated on the subject of your heritage, but I dont think of your heritage as ethno-religious in the same way Jews are. Not that you dont have a definite religious culture that complements the ethnic culture, but what creates the Jewish situation is the complicated interaction between internal religious laws of tribal membership and the external imposition of ethnicity (i.e something you are "born into" regardless of your religious views).
Hughbe is setting up a false equivalence. Christians are not an ethno-religious group either, but yet he cited that as an example as well. Basically,(shockingly), Hughbe misses the boat on the concept.
Just look at the Protestants and the Catholic Irish killing each other, blowing one another up, in Northern Ireland. Maybe not as much recently but quite a history of violence. Not homogenous by any means.

Definitely not ethnoreligious but the hyphenated Irish-Catholic is well known in our culture, along with Italian-Catholic and a few others. Strong associations but not the same as being Jewish.

I had a feeling where Huggy was going but thought I'd play along with him. He seems to hear what he wants to hear on this subject.
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#53243 May 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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If I understand you correctly, just because something might be a fairy tale doesnt mean it isnt worthy of respect. Fairy Tales have their own types of truths and deeper meanings. Much like fables.
I dont get why some people here would automatically find a fairy tale designation as demeaning (unless one is so insecure with their ID). Something doesnt have to be "authentic" or literal to be meaningful.
Couldn't have said it better myself!

And look at all the fine and respected literature in the world.

Taking lessons through metaphors and story-telling has a long tradition in no way diminishes the importance of the meanings being conveyed.

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#53244 May 25, 2013
Dunces with an extremely poor grasp of the basics of science and math are attempting to talk science on this thread. ROFL.

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#53245 May 26, 2013
former res wrote:
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Couldn't have said it better myself!
And look at all the fine and respected literature in the world.
Taking lessons through metaphors and story-telling has a long tradition in no way diminishes the importance of the meanings being conveyed.
Out of curiosity, why do you use the term fairy tale and not fable? Are you holding out for the possibility that some or all of the stories in the bible were not intended/created to have meaning other than entertainment, but now have meaning assigned to them?

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#53246 May 26, 2013
former res wrote:
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Just look at the Protestants and the Catholic Irish killing each other, blowing one another up, in Northern Ireland. Maybe not as much recently but quite a history of violence. Not homogenous by any means.
Definitely not ethnoreligious but the hyphenated Irish-Catholic is well known in our culture, along with Italian-Catholic and a few others. Strong associations but not the same as being Jewish.
I had a feeling where Huggy was going but thought I'd play along with him. He seems to hear what he wants to hear on this subject.
It is interesting how parsing a hyphen can mean so much.

When I was a kid I remember going to a discussion in my synagogue where they wanted us to discuss whether we saw ourselves as Jewish Americans or American Jews. The first term connotes religion while the second term connotes ethnicity (I think?)

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#53247 May 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Dunces with an extremely poor grasp of the basics of science and math are attempting to talk science on this thread. ROFL.
You sound a lot like like the little boy who is being ignored but who desperately wants to be heard

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#53248 May 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You sound a lot like like the little boy who is being ignored but who desperately wants to be heard.
Inferiority personified.



ROFL.

Anyway, carry on, and, hey, don't be so touchy, just relax.
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#53249 May 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Out of curiosity, why do you use the term fairy tale and not fable? Are you holding out for the possibility that some or all of the stories in the bible were not intended/created to have meaning other than entertainment, but now have meaning assigned to them?
Fairy tale is a more provocative (and admittedly less accurate) term for sure.(I admit I was playing with Huggy at the time.)

In a quick vocabulary review, it looks to me like 'parable' might be the best term to use:

A parable is [1] a succinct story, in prose or verse, which illustrates one or more instructive principles, or lessons, or (sometimes) a normative principle. It differs from a fable in that fables use animals, plants, inanimate objects, and forces of nature as characters, while parables generally feature human characters. It is a type of analogy.[2]

Some scholars of the Canonical gospels and the New Testament apply the term "parable" only to the parables of Jesus,[3] though that is not a common restriction of the term. Parables such as "The Prodigal Son" are central to Jesus' teaching method in both the canonical narratives and the apocrypha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable

ps

Good Morning on Huggy's Sabbath!

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#53250 May 26, 2013
JEWISH INDIAN OR INDIAN JEW?

1) The question of observant or non-observant does not arise since the term Jewish in this specific sense indicates a racial type and hence those of Jewish ancestry have a distinct genetic makeup that differs from other religious types like say the Hindu.

2) Jews of different races have intermarried for generations giving rise to a common gene pool.

3) With the Hindu, however, marriage is strictly governed by the laws of eugenics that seeks to weed out abnormal practices like the incestuous type or the hypogamous kind and so the Hindu genome though distinct varies from say the Jewish genes which is almost completely perverted due to incest/hypogamy.

4) People of peculiar beliefs who inter-marry for numerous generations develop a specific genotype and this is their race-based ethnicity.

5) The term nationality is broad and may refer to people of diverse genotypes residing in one nation - the various genotypes may intermarry provided religious laws do not forbid inter-religious marriages but in most cases most people marry within their own religious community that may be comprised of different genetic types that get stirred together forming a kind of genetic potpourri.

6) So, can a person be a Jewish India or an Indian Jew is the question? Doesn't either term indicate an oxymoron? Yes, if the religious community is homogenous in genes formed by marriage among the adherents of various genotypes of the same faith over generations. Whereas, if nationality is a product determined by common genetic lineage, then one cannot be a Jew and an Indian simultaneously since both are specific genetic types. In such a case, the person, in genetic terms, is simply a Jew and not Jewish Indian or if he wishes to identify with his nationality then he's simply an Indian or an Indo-Aryan or whatever and not a Jew. As such, when seen in this particular context of genotype, a person cannot be both - Jewish and Indian - at the same time. It would be a contradiction in terms.

6) Interestingly, most Muslims in India are Hindu converts to Islam and if there's been no mixing of blood with Arabs, Turks, Mongols and Afghans then the gene pool of Muslims in India remains Hindu by nature, or is it so? See, Hindu converts to Islam have married among themselves most often in incestuous and hypogamous unions and besides their pattern of thinking and customs molded by the new faith have left an indelible mark on their genes and in this respect the Muslim genome in India will be after many generations markedly different from the Hindu one.

8) If nationality is not race/genetic based then nationality is a superfluous factor and in such a case a person may describe himself as a Jewish Indian, Muslim Indian or Hindu Indian provided he puts his faith above nation.

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#53251 May 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Inferiority personified.
ROFL.
Anyway, carry on, and, hey, don't be so touchy, just relax.
grouchy? Did you here me call someone a dunce?

what exactly is your personality issue anyhow?

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#53252 May 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
JEWISH INDIAN OR INDIAN JEW?
1) The question of observant or non-observant does not arise since the term Jewish in this specific sense indicates a racial type and hence those of Jewish ancestry have a distinct genetic makeup that differs from other religious types like say the Hindu.
2) Jews of different races have intermarried for generations giving rise to a common gene pool.
3) With the Hindu, however, marriage is strictly governed by the laws of eugenics that seeks to weed out abnormal practices like the incestuous type or the hypogamous kind and so the Hindu genome though distinct varies from say the Jewish genes which is almost completely perverted due to incest/hypogamy.
4) People of peculiar beliefs who inter-marry for numerous generations develop a specific genotype and this is their race-based ethnicity.
5) The term nationality is broad and may refer to people of diverse genotypes residing in one nation - the various genotypes may intermarry provided religious laws do not forbid inter-religious marriages but in most cases most people marry within their own religious community that may be comprised of different genetic types that get stirred together forming a kind of genetic potpourri.
6) So, can a person be a Jewish India or an Indian Jew is the question? Doesn't either term indicate an oxymoron? Yes, if the religious community is homogenous in genes formed by marriage among the adherents of various genotypes of the same faith over generations. Whereas, if nationality is a product determined by common genetic lineage, then one cannot be a Jew and an Indian simultaneously since both are specific genetic types. In such a case, the person, in genetic terms, is simply a Jew and not Jewish Indian or if he wishes to identify with his nationality then he's simply an Indian or an Indo-Aryan or whatever and not a Jew. As such, when seen in this particular context of genotype, a person cannot be both - Jewish and Indian - at the same time. It would be a contradiction in terms.
6) Interestingly, most Muslims in India are Hindu converts to Islam and if there's been no mixing of blood with Arabs, Turks, Mongols and Afghans then the gene pool of Muslims in India remains Hindu by nature, or is it so? See, Hindu converts to Islam have married among themselves most often in incestuous and hypogamous unions and besides their pattern of thinking and customs molded by the new faith have left an indelible mark on their genes and in this respect the Muslim genome in India will be after many generations markedly different from the Hindu one.
8) If nationality is not race/genetic based then nationality is a superfluous factor and in such a case a person may describe himself as a Jewish Indian, Muslim Indian or Hindu Indian provided he puts his faith above nation.
Nationality is rarely based on race. Its based upon where you are born, or in the case of ethnicity, where your ancestors or older living generations were born.

Dont kid yourself that there are not Arabs in India that are as Indian as your Hindus. What makes them Indian isnt some bloodline but their birth in the modern nation-state.

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