Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

Full story: Newsday

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.
Comments
47,461 - 47,480 of 68,466 Comments Last updated 1 hr ago
former res

Cheshire, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52884
May 20, 2013
 
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Your own post;
A successful prima facie defense is rare. Not only does the burden of
proof rest upon the accused, a successful defense may involve
expenses well in excess of the cost of a ticket, such as an expert
witness. Furthermore, because prima facie defenses must be presented
in a court, such a defense is difficult for out of town motorists
In this particular type of defense. ok.

But don't you think the radar reading would be the state's evidence?
former res

Cheshire, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52885
May 20, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Voluntarist---No, former has admitted that he pays taxes by force.
Former---Do you not speed in your car due to force?
HughBe--- At times YES and at other times out of common sense and a sense of selfpreservation.
Sounds like most of us I think.

Twisty roads down there on the island.
former res

Cheshire, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52886
May 20, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
yes
Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?

Obama?

did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.

Sorry, don't mean to judge you.

:))
former res

Cheshire, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52887
May 20, 2013
 
Huggy

So you do believe in JC but not the trinity. So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?

So you are part Jewish, part African.

Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree. You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.

Thank you for you thorough response.
former res

Cheshire, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52888
May 20, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Noted.
Is the following FORCE? If it is not force tell me what it is.
"if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment."
Ultimately it will be force or eventually punishment for failing to comply - agreed.

"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."

But I don't agree with the last part.

Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't. And with my input in that I vote regularly. Thought clearly we won't always agree with how our money is spent (like the war in Iraq).
Voluntarist

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52889
May 20, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont call me papa
I am not your papa.
I shall call you angry white man from this point on.
Voluntarist

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52890
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Their employer?
Their employer? a fictitious entity?
Voluntarist

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52891
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
In this particular type of defense. ok.
But don't you think the radar reading would be the state's evidence?
Not in the political construct known as Connecticut, reasonable and prudent, radar is just prima facia, the conclusion would have to be that the defense was travelling beyond a reasonable and prudent speed.
But how would the star witness know the abilities of the traveler?

But since the rules of criminal procedure apply, corpus delecti can not be established.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52893
May 20, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Your not even Jewish. Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?
Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist? You want our souls?
Go to hell.
HughBe --In essence the people had a "Jewish" IDENTITY that predated RELIGION for many many HUNDREDS of years. The ethnoreligious concept of Jews is really a tool to CONTROL, DOMINATE, OPPRESS the Jewish people by the rabbis. Many Many Jews REJECT God or gods.

Frijoles---Your not even Jewish.

HughBe--- So what, DECEIVING SERPENT?

Frijoles--- Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?

HughBe--- My time is my business not yours. Attend to your business DECEIVER.

Your rabbis are FAKES. KNOW your place, BOY. They, as a group, are LYING DECEIVERS and as long as I am so inclined I SHALL STATE THOSE FACTS.

Take your time to understand this, when I see EVIL it is of concern to me. EVIL does not have to affect me PERSONALLY for me to speak out against it and there is NOTHING that your brainless self-serving fellows can do about it.

Tell them to GO JUMP OFF of a CLIFF and don't forget to follow them as you always do, you DUMB BLIND SHEEP.

Frijoles---Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist?

HughBe--- Possible but hardly likely. Your masters are FRAUDS. I look forward to the day when the Jewish people bring them to trial for CRIMES against humanity.

Frijoles---You want our souls?

HughBe--- I am NOT your pharaohs, BOY. They own YOUR soul and like FOUL devils they try to POSSESS the SOULS of the Jewish people.

Frijoles---Go to hell.

HughBe--- I shall not be joining you and your masters.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52894
May 20, 2013
 
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont call me papa
I am not your papa.
Forgive Joel as he sometimes confuses the word papa with what you really are i.e. POOP.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52895
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like most of us I think.
Twisty roads down there on the island.
Come and visit, we have a mix of roads including highways.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52896
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?
Obama?
did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.
Sorry, don't mean to judge you.
:))
Former---Have you ever voted for a dem? a liberal? a person of color?
Obama?

HughBe--- Yes for Obama as I am an American.

Yes for "a person of colour" providing you regard WHITE as a colour. If not yes for the white as a colour tell me what WHITE is.

Yes for the other two given that I flip-flop.

Former--did you vote for our first MBA/retarded president? I bet you did.
Sorry, don't mean to judge you.

HughBe--- Before you open your mouth you are forgiven, by me.

So, there is no need to be sorry. To whom little is given little is expected.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52897
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
Huggy
So you do believe in JC but not the trinity. So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?
So you are part Jewish, part African.
Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree. You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.
Thank you for you thorough response.
Former---So you do believe in JC but not the trinity.

HughBe--- I trust in and hope in Jesus, the Christ. The doctrine of the trinity that is taught by SOME of the Christians churches is FALSE.

Former-- So 2 out of 3 I guess. Not the holy ghost/spirit. Correct?

HughBe--- I believe in the Holy Spirit.

Former--So you are part Jewish, part African.

HughBe--- This is what I would say, I have Jewish DNA and BLACK DNA.

Former--Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree.

HughBe--- It seems that learning is not your forte. Listen well, my memory tells me that nearly 50 % of Jews are SECULAR meaning ATHEISTS etc. This means that THEY would NEVER call themselves any RELIGIOUS anything. They certainly will use the word ETHNIC. Get it?

Former---You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.

HughBe--- I am so wounded by your put-down and STUPIDITY it hurts.

Former---Thank you for you thorough response.

HughBe--- It is and was my pleasure.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52898
May 20, 2013
 
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Ultimately it will be force or eventually punishment for failing to comply - agreed.
"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."
But I don't agree with the last part.
Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't. And with my input in that I vote regularly. Thought clearly we won't always agree with how our money is spent (like the war in Iraq).
HughBe---Is the following FORCE? If it is not force tell me what it is.
"if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment."

Former--Ultimately it will be force.....- agreed.

HughBe--- I knew that with sufficient REPETITION you would both understand and agree with my point. Thank God I did not have to repeat myself another time.

HughBe---"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input."

Former--But I don't agree with the last part.

HughBe--- noted.

Former---Not determined by others. Determined by our duly elected representative gov't.

HughBe--- If you voted for the people of NO COLOUR would you regard the person of COLOUR who won to have been elected by YOU?

Make the connections to your point.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52899
May 21, 2013
 
In other words you agree with what I said

Has it ever occurred to you that people find raving lunatics like you obnoxious?
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe --In essence the people had a "Jewish" IDENTITY that predated RELIGION for many many HUNDREDS of years. The ethnoreligious concept of Jews is really a tool to CONTROL, DOMINATE, OPPRESS the Jewish people by the rabbis. Many Many Jews REJECT God or gods.
Frijoles---Your not even Jewish.
HughBe--- So what, DECEIVING SERPENT?
Frijoles--- Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?
HughBe--- My time is my business not yours. Attend to your business DECEIVER.
Your rabbis are FAKES. KNOW your place, BOY. They, as a group, are LYING DECEIVERS and as long as I am so inclined I SHALL STATE THOSE FACTS.
Take your time to understand this, when I see EVIL it is of concern to me. EVIL does not have to affect me PERSONALLY for me to speak out against it and there is NOTHING that your brainless self-serving fellows can do about it.
Tell them to GO JUMP OFF of a CLIFF and don't forget to follow them as you always do, you DUMB BLIND SHEEP.
Frijoles---Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist?
HughBe--- Possible but hardly likely. Your masters are FRAUDS. I look forward to the day when the Jewish people bring them to trial for CRIMES against humanity.
Frijoles---You want our souls?
HughBe--- I am NOT your pharaohs, BOY. They own YOUR soul and like FOUL devils they try to POSSESS the SOULS of the Jewish people.
Frijoles---Go to hell.
HughBe--- I shall not be joining you and your masters.
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Your not even Jewish. Why are you wasting time with this fake "concern"?
Could it be that you are just a two bit loser evangelist? You want our souls?
Go to hell.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52900
May 21, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Come and visit, we have a mix of roads including highways.
and you hate gay people

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52901
May 21, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
He could be your adopted son, or your disciple.
You first
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Billions of people call Pope as father. Pope is nothing but Papa in Italian.
I find that just as creepy in some ways

I mean, who worships their prayer leaders? That's heresy. I am sure you never do that.(Do you?)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52902
May 21, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

HughBe--- If you voted for the people of NO COLOUR would you regard the person of COLOUR who won to have been elected by YOU?
Make the connections to your point.
Thats part of the democratic system, so of course the answer would be yes.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52903
May 21, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Former--Jews describe themselves as ethnoreligious but you clearly don't agree.

HughBe--- It seems that learning is not your forte. Listen well, my memory tells me that nearly 50 % of Jews are SECULAR meaning ATHEISTS etc. This means that THEY would NEVER call themselves any RELIGIOUS anything. They certainly will use the word ETHNIC. Get it?
Former---You folks can hopefully agree to disagree but yours is very much a minority opinion, something I'm sure you're used to.
HughBe--- I am so wounded by your put-down and STUPIDITY it hurts.
.
No one is buying that. You have a private opinion.

There is a hyphen in the term ethno-religious. You would be wise to study what that hyphen means.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#52905
May 21, 2013
 

Judged:

1

former res wrote:
Huggy

Thank you for you thorough response.
Its the same response he would of given to you a year ago or more

Its not thorough - its a cut and paste

I admire your politeness and drive to end your post on a high note though...

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Pinos Altos Discussions

Search the Pinos Altos Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Review: High Country Collision Specialist Jul 24 Jeff 1
Hall retires from magistrate judge post (Dec '10) Jul 22 Jim Spainhower 9
To ban or not to ban - the future of plastic ba... Jul 22 Duh 4
Grant Co.---rotten corner of NM (Sep '11) Jul 13 troll 23
Review: 180 Trade And Pawn Jul 13 mar bear 2
Lawsuit filed in federal court alleges murder c... Jul 3 RobertJose 1
Passion fruit: Sweet, tasty watermelon may be h... (Jul '08) Jun '14 Carroll 16
•••

Flash Flood Watch for Grant County was issued at August 01 at 5:55PM MDT

•••
•••
•••
Pinos Altos Dating

more search filters

less search filters

•••

Pinos Altos Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Pinos Altos People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Pinos Altos News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Pinos Altos
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••