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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52274 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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I give you credit for creative thinking.
And I accept your reversal/self-correction on the issue!
Honest mistake. Probably some lefty blathering on NPR planted the seed.
:))
I admit I am still grappling with this issue to see if it is an outrage or not. Its hard to take the rightwing seriously with all the smoke they are blowing on all fronts.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52275 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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And??? Still not seeing the promotion of tax evasion only reduction in spending and taxation.
"opposition to taxation". Is that aversion or evasion? who knows?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52276 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Yet government prosecutors refuse to offer evidence that the constitution and code are applicable time and time again.
stay on track, willya

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52277 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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You are speaking generalization after generalization.
Mean time iraq and afgan is still occupied and gitmo is still open.
Iraq is still occupied? thats news to me. When do I get my oil?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52278 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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And you think you know more about the subject than 95% of the world's climate scientists?
I doubt it. Though I'm sure you're a fine young man.
Note his inability to articulate a specific critique of the article.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52279 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Meanwhile GE pays zero taxes, thats ok go after political enemies.
GE followed the tax code and did nothing wrong.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/04/warren-ge-pa...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52280 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Not sure where these people are vis a vis evasion vs aversion - but "movement" suggests to me evasion, "central idea" could mean aversion, and "varying degrees" leaves room for both.
Frijoles---"movement " suggests to me(Frijoles) EVASION

HughBe--- Thank you for your forthright opinion.

It explains, to me, the existence of the various MOVEMENTS in Judaism e.g. " All of the Orthodox MOVEMENTS are very similar in their observance and beliefs, differing only in the details that are emphasized. "

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/J...

former res

Cheshire, CT

#52281 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I admit I am still grappling with this issue to see if it is an outrage or not. Its hard to take the rightwing seriously with all the smoke they are blowing on all fronts.
I know, like the little boy who cried wolf.

And...you know....even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I bet that even ATF says something smart here and there. But probably not Huggybear.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52282 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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I give you credit for creative thinking.
And I accept your reversal/self-correction on the issue!
Honest mistake. Probably some lefty blathering on NPR planted the seed.
:))
Former---I accept your(Frijoles) reversal/self-correction on the issue!

HughBe--- REVERSALS and unacknowledged self-corrections are typical of dear Frijoles.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52283 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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"opposition to taxation". Is that aversion or evasion? who knows?
I'm opposed to the marijuana laws but only rarely partake!

:)

..mostly law-abiding to due to cheapness....it got real expensive since I was a teen...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52284 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
Huggy -
Hope you had a good Mother's Day.
I would have gotten you red roses if I could have.
xo
Former---Hope you had a good Mother's Day.

HughBe--- Thanks, I actually had a splendid day.

Former---I would have gotten you red roses if I could have.

HughBe--- 1. I know, the heart is willing but the pocket is weak. Such is the case when you are too pauperized.

2. I see that you are still having problems with gender identification and so you are still thinking that males are females. This challenge explains your sexual appetite.

Please always remember that I am MALE and it was NOT Father's Day.

Former---xo

HughBe--- The compound is cause for concern I am not one of your fellows, Frijoles and Eric are. I accept love but give the two to your fellow fellows.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52285 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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I know, like the little boy who cried wolf.
And...you know....even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I bet that even ATF says something smart here and there. But probably not Huggybear.
Former--I bet that even ATF says something smart here and there. But probably not Huggybear.

HughBe--- Indeed as for me, it is not "here and there" it is continuously.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#52286 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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These same people denying the truth will be eventually saying "so what, the war was necessary" .
Just like The Gulf of Tonkin was staged, the government apologists always claim that it was necessary.
rabbee: i fear you are giving all your false g-ds, way too much credit for staging that. just in case you cannot figure out, WHO TheReal G-D is, giving america hell too. even if it has been a kinder gentler hell, than other nations. and using us, to give them all hell too.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#52287 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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What do you think about the IRS "targeting" the Tea Party? Do you think it is ethical or not?
rabbee: if you try to throw a frog, in a pan of boiling water. it will most definatly, try to jump out. but if you put it in, a pan of ambient water. and slowly raise the corrupt temperature, it gets all comfy and warm. and yet all you frogs, still warm and comfy feel nothing is wrong. we did not get, near the boiling point with the deficit over-night. and slow to tyrannical change, is more dangerous to america than rapid changes.

and one of the trademarks of tyrany, is the suppression of all other ways to thinking but theirs. what are the dangers, of having an all democrat, or republican congress, executive, and supreme court? a two or more party governement is part, of the checks and balances too.
Voluntarist

United States

#52288 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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"tax resistence" sounds like evasion to me.
Is GE guilty of tax resistence by conspiring with its accountants to pay zero tax?
Voluntarist

United States

#52289 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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IRS did care about the evidence, as no one is claiming that they prosecuted these groups unfairly. Only that they profiled them for auditing.
I am fine with the profiling, if, as FR questioned, the members actually evaded the taxes.
Besides, even if they didnt evade taxes, the fact is that it is a political group and therefore really shouldnt be a nonprofit. That is what triggered the whole event.
It is someones actions that determine that they are a political group, not their name .
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#52290 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I dont get how IRS investigation is implicitly tyrannical.
Lets look at a false equivalence that is being bandied around. Black people being pulled over by cops. That is wrong. In that situation, there is no reason to believe that black people are more guilty of a potential crime than white people, therefore profiling for the purpose of investigation is wrong.
But in the case of the Tea Party - these people are actually advocating illegal behavior. Therefore, the potential is there. Plus they are not acting as individuals, they are filing as an organization with voluntary membership. So it makes sense to profile the organization.
rabbee: do you think that mental prejudice, should be used to convict anyone? or to use it with deceit, to persecution. since this is not about prosecution, but subtle persecution.

and so yes, our forefathers of this nation. did commit illegal acts according to, king george and conwallis. they even had their own version, of a boston tea party. and what was, the cry then?

that the majority of americans, were being taxed unfairly without any representation. and that only the minorities, of this nation were being served and represented. and that the rights of the few, suppresed the rights of the many. and they the brittish profiled groups, in accordance to their opposition too.

do you consider, the foundation of this nation illegal? so what do you suppose G-D, had us do about it? when political suppression, is tyrany.

there is no such thing, as a non-act of G-D on this planet or all of physical totality. if you do not want, to believe in G-D. then G-D shall, command the devil to help you all. and it may only look like, muhammed's good at first. whether you, fail to see this or not. with slowly rising temp, untill it reaches the boiling point of syria. and the frogs, all start their dying.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52291 May 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Is GE guilty of tax resistence by conspiring with its accountants to pay zero tax?
I see you have an opinion that you are being too coy to share...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52292 May 13, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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It is someones actions that determine that they are a political group, not their name .
Which is why you have to investigate before you prosecute.
Abolish The Fed

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#52293 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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IRS did care about the evidence, as no one is claiming that they prosecuted these groups unfairly. Only that they profiled them for auditing.
I am fine with the profiling, if, as FR questioned, the members actually evaded the taxes.
Besides, even if they didnt evade taxes, the fact is that it is a political group and therefore really shouldnt be a nonprofit. That is what triggered the whole event.
The irs never cares about evidence.

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