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I have no relationship with any church or house of worship.
Kindly move on.
what if it didnt matter, you live within their bounderies?

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Once again--
Frijoles---Are other churches special?
HughBe---- the church itself is not special and so there cannot be "OTHER" special churches.
whatever

your finickiness bores me
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What's the opposite of "above me?"
Were you born into worship of government or were you programmed by your parents?
Have you evaluated the fact that government takes by force from one and gives to another?
Is this consistant with what your mommy and daddy taught you about taking what is not yours?

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Former---The subject of tithing is purely academic for me.
HughBe--- what prompted the question on tithing?
Dont be a lazy fick, you can scroll up too

it was a tangent from a ideologically tainted exchange about HOAs and taxation

Dont ask us what a HOA is - google that if you are intrigued.
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#52016
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If at all you must eat meat then eat less of pink and red meats and eat more of white meat like fish or chicken.
rabbee: what no, pink salmon, kokanee or turkey bacon? my main diet, consists of bread/matza, vegetables, fruit, dairy and meat(chicken, fish, turkey, lamb, beef). like i say, i am mainly a meat eating vegetarian. and the beef, is mostly used as a flavoring for the veges. or on rare occasions, spegetti and meat balls. and from friday morning till saturdy morning, soup and sandwitch untill Shabbat is ended in Ysrael. but my main staple, is bread. so everything else it eat, is just something i eat with bread. face it what good, is lochs and sour cream without bagels?
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Frijoles---Dont pretend you are holier than sht
HughBe--- Not only am I holier than you but I am sweeter in smell.
Before I deal with the remainder of your amusing post, please identify the questions that I have asked that have GREATLY upset YOU.
My guess is that it is the last one or number 4.
1.What is tithing?
2.Who should collect tithes?
3.Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
4.Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
Frijoles---Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure maintenance costs, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low.
HughBe--- List the items that you call, "infrastructure maintenance costs"
Do you think that we have service in trees?
Frijoles---Plus your churches probably dont have social service components.
HughBe--- What an IDIOTIC utterance
Frijoles--heck you probably RECEIVE aid.
HughBe---But not from YOU.
Frijoles---Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising revenue to keep your organizations like we do in the states.
HughBe--- It is an indictment on your education system that someone with a PhD could be so DUNCE.
Frij had a phd?

no way

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Frijoles---Dont pretend you are holier than sht
HughBe--- Not only am I holier than you but I am sweeter in smell.
Before I deal with the remainder of your amusing post, please identify the questions that I have asked that have GREATLY upset YOU.
My guess is that it is the last one or number 4.
1.What is tithing?
2.Who should collect tithes?
3.Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
4.Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
NOt an issue with me so not worth discussing
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<quoted text>Frijoles---Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure maintenance costs, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low.
HughBe--- List the items that you call, "infrastructure maintenance costs"
Do you think that we have service in trees?.
maintaining the infrastructure. Is that any clearer?

Seriously, you dont have to worry about heat. Thats a big cost. Plus you probably have thinner buildings for the same reason.
And on top of that, most likely, you have tinier buildings being that you are poor and third worldish - but that is my guess
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>Frijoles---Plus your churches probably dont have social service components.
HughBe--- What an IDIOTIC utterance
Frijoles--heck you probably RECEIVE aid.
HughBe---But not from YOU.
Frijoles---Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising revenue to keep your organizations like we do in the states.
HughBe--- It is an indictment on your education system that someone with a PhD could be so DUNCE.
Gee - then why is Jamaica a recipient of US government aid, and why do churches here in the US send people down to Jamaica to build stuff and hand out money???

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USAID in Jamaica

http://www.usaid.gov/where-we-work/latin-amer...

Food for the poor - American Christian charity fro Jamaica

www.foodforthepoor.org/
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Frij had a phd?
no way
Yes. Had.

He lost it in a card game.

His parents were very upset.
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Frijoles wrote:
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whatever
your finickiness bores me
Rest assured it is the only boring that you will be getting from me. Check Eric, for all other.
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Were you born into worship of government or were you programmed by your parents?
Have you evaluated the fact that government takes by force from one and gives to another?
Is this consistant with what your mommy and daddy taught you about taking what is not yours?
Everything I think do and say is in the pill I took today.
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Frij had a phd?
no way
yes
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You live not far from where I used to live. I lived three blocks south of the Art Museum, which is pretty central.
rabbee: i did not know, you were on broadway? meet any, stars there? but i did used to live, at broadway and ellsworth - thats 0000 and 0000 block. in what used to be, downtown denver. but in actuality, downtown denver has fluctuated, to the north, south and east a few times. so where it is today, has not always been downtown denver.
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what if it didnt matter, you live within their bounderies?
I do what I'm told.
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Dont be a lazy fick, you can scroll up too
it was a tangent from a ideologically tainted exchange about HOAs and taxation
Dont ask us what a HOA is - google that if you are intrigued.
useful, I think. My question to Former remains.

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NOt an issue with me so not worth discussing
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maintaining the infrastructure. Is that any clearer?
Seriously, you dont have to worry about heat. Thats a big cost. Plus you probably have thinner buildings for the same reason.
And on top of that, most likely, you have tinier buildings being that you are poor and third worldish - but that is my guess
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Gee - then why is Jamaica a recipient of US government aid, and why do churches here in the US send people down to Jamaica to build stuff and hand out money???
HughBe--- Before I deal with the remainder of your amusing post, please identify the questions that I have asked that have GREATLY upset YOU.

My guess is that it is the last one or number 4.
1.What is tithing?
2.Who should collect tithes?
3.Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
4.Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?

Frijoles---NOt an issue with me so not worth discussing

HughBe--- Not true as my words caused your mad head to attack you and I am the recipient of your mad dog rage.

Frijoles---Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure maintenance costs, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low.

HughBe--- List the items that you call, "infrastructure maintenance costs"
Do you think that we have service in trees?.

Frijoles---maintaining the infrastructure. Is that any clearer?

HughBe--- Is the word LIST giving you a challenge? If not LIST the items.

Frijoles---Seriously, you dont have to worry about heat. Thats a big cost.

HughBe--- If I were you I would have said COMICALLY and not seriously. We do have HEAT problems but it is not the same as your lack of heat. We use something called AIR CONDITIONERS. That cost.

Frijoles--- Plus you probably have thinner buildings for the same reason.

HughBe--- We are NOT into wooden and paper houses as in the US the vast majority of buildings are BLOCK and STEEL.

The thickness argument is garbage.

Frijoles---And on top of that, most likely, you have tinier buildings being that you are poor and third worldish - but that is my guess

HughBe--- Your words reflect your LOW level of intelligence and that is no guess.

Frijoles---Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising revenue to keep your organizations like we do in the states.

HughBe--- It is an indictment on your education system that someone with a PhD could be so DUNCE.

Frijoles---Gee - then why is Jamaica a recipient of US government aid, and why do churches here in the US send people down to Jamaica to build stuff and hand out money???

HughBe--- Aid to Jamaica is a deep discussion and is beyond your scope or this forum.

If you believe that churches here survive because of aid from the US feel free. I would like you to support it though. Your argument is nonsensical.
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So, what are the true laws?
rabbee: a body in motion, tends to stay in motion. untill the idiot, hits a brick wall.

or if you piss off G-D, somebodies going to get hell for it.

and you do not want, to anger G-D so much. that THEY take, the more direct approach.

and never feed the all-hgator, with others. in the hope, you get eaten last.

love G-D, and G-D shall love you back. hate G-D, well sorry about that.

you can't fix the symptoms of idolatry, throwing more idolatry at it.

and you can't rollerskate, in a buffalo herd.

if your feel 100% comfortable where your at, then something is wrong with you.

if you are not here, in this story TheG-D of TheTorah is still giving. then you are, bearing false wittness.
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USAID in Jamaica
http://www.usaid.gov/where-we-work/latin-amer...
Food for the poor - American Christian charity fro Jamaica
www.foodforthepoor.org/
Are YOU saying that FOOD for the POOR keeps the doors of churches open in Jamaica?

Explain the link between FOOD for the POOR and the costs associated with running churches in Jamaica.
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HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- I have repeatedly TOLD YOU......
Simply repeating your riddles only leads us in circles.
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HughBe --The other part about "believe the way you believe" is NEW. What exactly are you talking about, is it tithing?
Former---No. I refer to your religious beliefs.
HughBe--- list my beliefs that you referred to.
1. Religious
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HughBe--- Who introduced you to atheism?
Former--Being introduced to atheism is like being introduced to not liking ice cream.
HughBe--- explain. Should I take it that everybody likes ice cream?
Only if you believe that everyone believes in god.
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Former--The trilogy?
HughBe--- I take it that you mean TRINITY which is NOT the same as TRILOGY. Lesson: TRILOGY is a SERIES of 3 whereas TRINITY is 3.
Former--I misspoke. Typical atheist.
HughBe--- There is no disgrace in not knowing.:D
Or in misspeaking I hope.
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HughBe--- And you consider your utterance above as QUOTING my words. YOU were asking about TITHING and not about financial contributions.
Tithing constitutes financial support for the church.

Technically it means 10% but I'm sure you an intelligent person like you wouldn't get hung up on a mere technicality.
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HughBe--- what prompted the question on tithing?
What prompts all my discussion on religion when I'm an atheist?

I generally find it intellectually stimulating.

I know you won't want to fxck that up for me by being an annoying pain in the axs.

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