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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#51613 May 2, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I never stated that only lefties think alex is a loon.
"Besides Alex Jones is very credible, that would be your opinion and the lefties at salon."

Who other than you and fellow conspiracy buffs thinks the guy is credible?
Voluntarist

United States

#51614 May 2, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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If you cant see the difference between the tax collector and angels, you really ARE wonked
The ct constitution does not only contain taxing powers, the applicability of the constitution is what is in question.

It seems that former res believes aka has faith in something that he has not seen evidence of and does not know how it applies to him personally.
Voluntarist

United States

#51615 May 2, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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"Besides Alex Jones is very credible, that would be your opinion and the lefties at salon."
Who other than you and fellow conspiracy buffs thinks the guy is credible?
See previous post, almost every jones news report links to a "main stream" news report.

Please provide evidence of false news reporting and I will concede that his credibility is in question.
Voluntarist

United States

#51616 May 2, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I dont understand. Are you saying that not all Salon lefties disbelieve him? or vice versa?
The point is most people, regardless of personal political affiliation, think the guy is a loon.
Is that your arbitrary opinion or is that based on facts?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#51617 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Is that your arbitrary opinion or is that based on facts?
Whatever. As usual it is impossible to converse with someone who believes white is black, and black is white.

Google Alex Jones.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#51618 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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The ct constitution does not only contain taxing powers, the applicability of the constitution is what is in question.
It seems that former res believes aka has faith in something that he has not seen evidence of and does not know how it applies to him personally.
Your issue, not mine.

Not only do I recognize our government, I actually like it. That world view thingie again.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#51619 May 3, 2013
Alex Jones Will Help You Find Your New Conspiracy Soul Mate, Today!

http://wonkette.com/513892/alex-jones-will-he...

Are you lonely tonight? Do you feel like no one else understands your raging paranoia about FEMA camps and government bullet hoarding and the False Flag Boston Bombings what was done by the CIA or whatever? Well Alex Jones is here to help you find love, and we are here to help you look through the new Infowars dating site for that special someone, before you decide f--k it and just love the one youÂ’re with.(Your hand.)
JOEL

Pune, India

#51620 May 3, 2013
yawn.

(smiles)
JOEL

Pune, India

#51621 May 3, 2013
HUGH:

You keep telling me to get a chick to sit on my face.

I did so, today morning.

I made the youngest maid sit on my face (you know I like 'em young...as young as 16 or 17).

Yes, Mon, the youngest maid sat on my face, today.

As I was about to use my tongue, she pissed on my face.

I gagged and spanked her bum and turned her around so that I could get rear entry with my finger and guess what she farted on my face and then it became too much for me to bear and I tossed her on to the floor.

I remain a virgin.

(smiles)
JOEL

Pune, India

#51622 May 3, 2013
STEFANO TYPED THIS LINE ON THE ALLAH THREAD:

STEFANO - "It depends on how "I" is used in the context."

JOEL'S REPLY - In the ordinary sense, yes.

In the higher sense, no.

The yogic experiences that exceed the higher vital plane are devoid of the I and if there is any feeling/perception of the I it is the ego masquerading as the psychic or its higher aspect the self.

In the cosmic mind, higher mind, illumined mind, overmind, supermind planes and in the ranges of consciousness that go beyond the supermind there is no perception of I.

Besides, when the I of the vital is accompanied by savagery as seen in the case of the archetypal being of the Tanakh then be sure that this archetypal being calling itself I AM is an asura.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51623 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You dont know?
You believe something is real and applicable to you without any evidence? without even reading it? How are you any different than religious zealots?
Tell me in my day to day life how I follow or believe in the CT state constitution?

I follow the driving laws so that I don't get ticketed.

I pay my taxes to keep the man off my back.

What else am I missing?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51624 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Let me ask you, why do you need a news source to know about a lawyer who testified in a trial about what he saw?
You should be able to find a mainstream source for the story.

Otherwise the whole thing is suspect IMO.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51625 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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The ct constitution does not only contain taxing powers, the applicability of the constitution is what is in question.
It seems that former res believes aka has faith in something that he has not seen evidence of and does not know how it applies to him personally.
Quite the opposite.

Faith plays no part.

I'm much more of pragmatist than in idealist.

You don't pay your taxes or follow the traffic laws and
you can get arrested and/or fined.

I prefer to not have such legal/civil entanglements.

Besides, everyone else is following the same rules so it's not like I'm being singled out.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#51626 May 3, 2013
former res wrote:
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Quite the opposite.
Faith plays no part.
I'm much more of pragmatist than in idealist.
You don't pay your taxes or follow the traffic laws and
you can get arrested and/or fined.
I prefer to not have such legal/civil entanglements.
Besides, everyone else is following the same rules so it's not like I'm being singled out.
and we are all tracked by our cell phones these days

and have you noticed that after surfing/shopping the internet, we are now followed around by little square advertisements from those products embedded in whatever website we are now visiting? Even periodically erasing cookies doesnt blast all of these out.

The point being that there is a greater societal structure out there, whether we like it or not, approve of it or not, and that buy-in is involuntary not volunteerist.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51627 May 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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and we are all tracked by our cell phones these days
and have you noticed that after surfing/shopping the internet, we are now followed around by little square advertisements from those products embedded in whatever website we are now visiting? Even periodically erasing cookies doesnt blast all of these out.
The point being that there is a greater societal structure out there, whether we like it or not, approve of it or not, and that buy-in is involuntary not volunteerist.
Very true.

Those little tracking advertisements are a little disconcerting.

Somebody's definitely watching us.

This is interesting: "buy-in is involuntary not volunteerist"

..and bound to draw someone's attention.
Voluntarist

United States

#51628 May 3, 2013
former res wrote:
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Tell me in my day to day life how I follow or believe in the CT state constitution?
I follow the driving laws so that I don't get ticketed.
I pay my taxes to keep the man off my back.
What else am I missing?
So then you are no better than religious folks believing in the bible, at least most of them read it.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51629 May 3, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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So then you are no better than religious folks believing in the bible, at least most of them read it.
You haven't explained how I "believe in" the CT state constitution.

Believe that it exists? I couldn't even say that I do that.

Only you have ever even mentioned it to me.

You seem concerned with many very important issues!

:))
Voluntarist

United States

#51631 May 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Whatever. As usual it is impossible to converse with someone who believes white is black, and black is white.
Google Alex Jones.
So I presume that is your opinion.
Voluntarist

United States

#51632 May 3, 2013
former res wrote:
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You haven't explained how I "believe in" the CT state constitution.
Believe that it exists? I couldn't even say that I do that.
Only you have ever even mentioned it to me.
You seem concerned with many very important issues!
:))
I asked if you believe that it applies to you and you said that you believed that it did, absent any facts that it does.
So you are no better than a religious nut.
Voluntarist

United States

#51633 May 3, 2013
former res wrote:
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Quite the opposite.
Faith plays no part.
I'm much more of pragmatist than in idealist.
You don't pay your taxes or follow the traffic laws and
you can get arrested and/or fined.
I prefer to not have such legal/civil entanglements.
Besides, everyone else is following the same rules so it's not like I'm being singled out.
You are following everyones else obedience to laws withouy evidence that they actually apply to you the same way people go to church every sunday and follow the "scripture" , yet without any facts that it is actually applicable to them. They also believe that they will die and go to heaven.

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