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JOEL

Thane, India

#51413 Apr 30, 2013
TOP 3 DUNCES ON THIS THREAD:

1) MUQ

2) Frijoles

3) Eric
JOEL

Thane, India

#51414 Apr 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

I would rather die than deal with any form of occultism.
So, expectedly, you've failed to understand the meaning of the word occult.

Look here, boy, there's nothing absolutely good or absolutely bad within the mental, vital and physical spatio-temporal conditions.

Everything within this canopy is a mixture of good and bad and this too is debatable since what appears good in certain cases may have its bad aspects under other conditions and what is considered bad under certain conditions has its good uses at times.

So stop forming rigid opinions.

Above all, I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that a thing is neither good nor bad but that its characteristics would depend on how it is perceived and to what use it is put to.

To rise beyond the dualities, one has to rise high, very high indeed in consciousness, and as expected just a handful of gifted individuals possess this exalted capacity.

Not even Jesus, Moses or Rama had this refined capacity of rising out of the dualities. You'll see that their words and actions reflect a mixture of wisdom and ignorance, benevolence and malevolence, transcendence (of a limited kind) and immanence.

Take care.
JOEL

Thane, India

#51415 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Religion also gives a path for those who need a focus - some way to whittle away at the time.

There is no universal answer because people are all different
I do think there is a difference in substance between conspiracy theorests and religionists, though. Conspiracists, on the average, are a whole lot more of crazy. They have to be.
What a stupid reply.

Everything you posted can be shown rubbish or incorrect.

You lack intelligence.

Expected.
JOEL

Thane, India

#51416 Apr 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

I would rather to admire and stare at MY bamboo...
Sex-fixated narcissist.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51417 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
What a stupid reply.
Everything you posted can be shown rubbish or incorrect.
You lack intelligence.
Expected.
You remind me of a little kid pining for attention

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51418 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Not all conspiracies are hoaxes. In fact, I'll rather believe the conspiracy theorists in many areas than the official versions that're usually fudged or a coverup.
says the guy who wasted the last few years in a cult
JOEL

Thane, India

#51419 Apr 30, 2013
(smiles smiles smiles)
JOEL

Thane, India

#51420 Apr 30, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>

The purpose of religion is to explain the purpose of life. The purpose of life is life. God created mankind because she was lonely and it is Gods purpose for all of us to live past this earthly life and live forever in Heaven and then inherit the earth in the resurrection.
LMAO.
JOEL

Thane, India

#51421 Apr 30, 2013
Susan,

Where and what is Heaven?

(smiles)
JOEL

Thane, India

#51423 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

You remind me of a little kid pining for attention.
I'm your beloved kid.

A kid has every right to butt in when Papa is busy with others or to arm-twist Papa in giving him attention. This kid also corrects Papa when Papa errs for has it not been said that child is father of man? This kid of yours doesn't mind when Papa growls at him.

Be proud of your kid - me.

(smiles)

You're so adorable in many ways.
JOEL

Thane, India

#51424 Apr 30, 2013
Susie,

Where are you?

Kindly doff your dunce cap when you come online, dear.

(smiles)
JOEL

Thane, India

#51425 Apr 30, 2013
SUSIE TYPED THIS ON THE ALLAH THREAD:

"Elijah the prophet also brought a child back to life. Fitting in this life he's a child psychiatrist."

JOEL'S REPLY:

Resurrecting a dead person is done by vitalists.

A vitalist is a yogi who commands a part of or the whole of the vital range of cosmic consciousness.

Actually speaking, the yogi needn't call back the escaped vital power since it's the physico-vital that is responsible for life in the body.

The physico-vital is an inferior current of the manifested vital that infuses matter to animate or enliven it.

A device that generates the correct electro-magnetic frequency can resurrect dead tissues and corpses.

The electromagnetic force is also an aspect of the physico-vital since the vital force is also responsible for the animation of the gross physical forces.

It's been an aim of mine to work closely with a genius-engineer on a vibrometer, an electromagnetic device that can revive dead tissues and corpses when it generates the correct frequencies. Given my yogic experiences (that're spontaneously continuing till now) and my exposure to the physical sciences, I know that it's possible to revive the dead employing the correct frequency/frequencies of the em force.

I'd love to work on the vibrometer with a maverick like Nikola Tesla, who, by the way, was deeply influenced by the mind-matter lectures of Swami Vivekananda that he attended and who he reportedly meet on several occasions when Vivekananda visited the US.

Tesla is reported to have said that if one wishes to know the secrets of the universe then one would have to concentrate on energy, vibration and frequency which determine the nature and function of the universe. Correct. I add consciousness to the list.
Voluntarist

United States

#51426 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Good answer. We have no way of knowing either way.
<quoted text>
Great answer!
<quoted text>
Very true but the burden of showing relevance is not on me.
True but if you are claiming that they are fairy tales then the burden is on you.
Voluntarist

United States

#51427 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
On other words, all good reasons to cling to one's
guns, religion and conspiracy theories.
Guns could be a symbol of independence.
Voluntarist

United States

#51428 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Reminded me of Obama's comment how certain folks "cling to their guns and religions." Or something to that affect.
Many of us have needs and we meet them in different ways.
http://www.ted.com/conversations/13778/what_i...
What is the purpose of religion?
Throughout the history of man, religion has been present. Religious beliefs have affected everything from personal ethics to national politics. It has been an integral part of many societies in our past and present. However the question remains:
What is the purpose of religion?
Religion has been presented to explain unknown intellectual problems (Comte, Tylor), to explain strong and abstract emotional feelings (Marett, Malinowski, Freud), to oppress social groups (Marx), to connect society (Durkheim), to explain arbitrary suffering (Weber), etc.
Many other purposes for religion have been theorized but no universal answer has been found.
Will a single answer ever be found? Is there only one answer?
Possible answers, further questions or any comments are welcome!
Are people that cling to their privacy or their free speech or their right to be left alone absent a search warrant just as bad?
Voluntarist

United States

#51429 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
How conspiracists think
New research helps explain why some see elaborate government plots behind events like 9/11 or the Boston bombings
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/30/how_conspirac...
....Interestingly, belief in conspiracy theories has recently been linked to the rejection of science.... These findings are alarming because they show that conspiracy theories sow public mistrust and undermine democratic debate by diverting attention away from important scientific, political and societal issues.......
....Since a number of studies have shown that belief in conspiracy theories is associated with feelings of powerlessness, uncertainty and a general lack of agency and control, a likely purpose of this bias is to help people “make sense of the world” by providing simple explanations for complex societal events — restoring a sense of control and predictability. A good example is that of climate change: while the most recent international scientific assessment report (receiving input from over 2500 independent scientists from more than a 100 countries) concluded with 90 percent certainty that human-induced global warming is occurring, the severe consequences and implications of climate change are often too distressing and overwhelming for people to deal with, both cognitively as well as emotionally. Resorting to easier explanations that simply discount global warming as a hoax is then of course much more comforting and convenient psychologically. Yet, as Al Gore famously pointed out, unfortunately, the truth is not always convenient....
Building 7 fell at near free fall speed

The mayor exited his bunker because he was told that the buildings were going to collapse (too bad he didnt warn those firefighters)

But right before the south tower collapsed, I noticed a lot of
people just left the lobby, and I heard we had a crew of all
different people, high-level people in government, everybody was
gone, almost like they had information that we didn't have.
[Joseph Pfeifer, Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)]

I went down to the scene and we set up
headquarters at 75 Barkley Street, which
was right there with the Police
Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the
Head of Emergency Management, and we
were operating out of there when we were
told that the World Trade Center was going
to collapse. And it did collapse before we
could actually get out of the building, so
we were trapped in the building for 10, 15
minutes, and finally found an exit and got
out, walked north, and took a lot of people
with us.”

No modern steel high rise has ever collapsed due to fire.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51430 Apr 30, 2013
As with everything within the dualism of the mental,, vital and physical space-time,, guns serve a dual purpose and can be used in self-defense or as a weapon of terror/offense against fellow human-beings or aimed at animals, birds and other lower life forms. The use to which a gun is put to would depend on the nature and motive of the person who handles it. Still others may value a gun for the sake of art and there are individuals who collect guns, swords and knives as part of an art collection devoted to weaponry.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#51431 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Susan,
Where and what is Heaven?
(smiles)
Heaven is another dimension and in a circuit above us. There are 3 entrances to heaven and hell on earth. The Bermuda triangle, the devils triangle and the third is in the north atlantic off the coast of Norway, each serves 2 continents. The entrance to heaven is a whirlwind and to hell is a whirlpool. Hell is also a black hole and is freezing cold, and utter darkness. It flows in a straight line thru time and space forever. Heavens weather is perfect. The sun is warm and there is a cool breeze. There is a lot of fellowship in Heaven but in Hell you're all alone. Hell is also a troubled sea and eventually your spirit will be snuffed out, drowned. The Hebrew word for spirit is ruach and it means breath or wind.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#51432 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
SUSIE TYPED THIS ON THE ALLAH THREAD:
"Elijah the prophet also brought a child back to life. Fitting in this life he's a child psychiatrist."
JOEL'S REPLY:
Resurrecting a dead person is done by vitalists.
A vitalist is a yogi who commands a part of or the whole of the vital range of cosmic consciousness.
Actually speaking, the yogi needn't call back the escaped vital power since it's the physico-vital that is responsible for life in the body.
The physico-vital is an inferior current of the manifested vital that infuses matter to animate or enliven it.
A device that generates the correct electro-magnetic frequency can resurrect dead tissues and corpses.
The electromagnetic force is also an aspect of the physico-vital since the vital force is also responsible for the animation of the gross physical forces.
It's been an aim of mine to work closely with a genius-engineer on a vibrometer, an electromagnetic device that can revive dead tissues and corpses when it generates the correct frequencies. Given my yogic experiences (that're spontaneously continuing till now) and my exposure to the physical sciences, I know that it's possible to revive the dead employing the correct frequency/frequencies of the em force.
I'd love to work on the vibrometer with a maverick like Nikola Tesla, who, by the way, was deeply influenced by the mind-matter lectures of Swami Vivekananda that he attended and who he reportedly meet on several occasions when Vivekananda visited the US.
Tesla is reported to have said that if one wishes to know the secrets of the universe then one would have to concentrate on energy, vibration and frequency which determine the nature and function of the universe. Correct. I add consciousness to the list.
The energy in all of us is what lives on after the death of the soul (body). When we die, we lose heat and weight, both are associated with energy and includes our mind and consciousness. I believe it is possible to revive somebody, it happens all the time in hospitals, etc. but after a few hours or so, they're a goner. Especially after 3 days or so.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51433 Apr 30, 2013
ROFL, Oh my, Susie, you're the height of stupidity. LOL.

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