Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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The article went into that under the subtopic - when all else fails, expand the conspiracy
So here you are asked a question and you wont answer it.

We know that through rex 84 there is a "civilian inmate labor program"
And we know that the army is looking to hire for interment camps.
And we know that there are FEMA "emergency shelters" all over this US , lock down facilities.

But those 3 things dont exist according to you? or are they just harmless government programs in your opinion?

Has the us government had internment camps operational in the past?
Why wouldnt they use them again?

As far as the Boston bombers, the city was in martial law during the so called "man hunt" would you agree?

Also i made the comment in the past that there are people out there that aspire to create a one world government, that is one governing body for the entire world and i backed that up with quotes.
So are you now saying that isnt true again?

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So here you are asked a question and you wont answer it.
We know that through rex 84 there is a "civilian inmate labor program"
And we know that the army is looking to hire for interment camps.
And we know that there are FEMA "emergency shelters" all over this US , lock down facilities.
But those 3 things dont exist according to you? or are they just harmless government programs in your opinion?
Has the us government had internment camps operational in the past?
Why wouldnt they use them again?
As far as the Boston bombers, the city was in martial law during the so called "man hunt" would you agree?
Also i made the comment in the past that there are people out there that aspire to create a one world government, that is one governing body for the entire world and i backed that up with quotes.
So are you now saying that isnt true again?
You are all over the place - lets try to be systematic

1. Fema camps is a myth

2. Yes, for a very long part of a day Boston was in lockdown, and probably not a lot of fun to be in.

3. The intent for One World government clearly exists. In your mind.
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It was a response to your article which was all over the place
Lets start with fema camps with my first fact
EXECUTIVE ORDER # 11000 Allows the
government to mobilize civilians into work
brigades under government supervision
do you admit or deny?
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<quoted text>The holy Spirit has taught me thru meditation, and if you're going to call me a liar we can end this right now. Do you really think that I think I can make myself the Messiah if I'm not? I'm not that ignorant.
rabbee: sorry! but TheRuach HaKodesh, does not tell lies. does not get names wrong, nor disavows being here in TheTorah. i have seen and spoken with G-D, and you can't get More HOLY-SPIRIT than this.

and there is the unholy spirit too, i hope you do know. and i believe you can be, just as easily decieved by them as everyone else in this world including the muslems, jews, and christian.

G-D does not send, TheRuach HaKodesh to those who only want to hear vain lies. and there is not one person in this world, that thinks they are some kind of special messiah of some sorts.

if you even think, there is more than a few holy persons in this world today. then you are painting, a false vain picture.

and you are not calling me a liar, but are calling TheG-D WHO gave this assignment to me a liar. so how can any holy spirit, call THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT a liar?

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Voluntarist wrote:
It was a response to your article which was all over the place
Lets start with fema camps with my first fact
EXECUTIVE ORDER # 11000 Allows the
government to mobilize civilians into work
brigades under government supervision
do you admit or deny?
No, that article had a specific topic, and lets stay on that topic for a change.

It proposed a modal personality and suggested several ways to sustain that personality. Was there anything in that article you really objected to? One of the more interesting things I got from it is that conspiracy theorists conjure their ideas up as a need to control their reality. Is that the case with you?

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http://www.salon.com/2013/04/24/why_people_be...

What are the psychological forces at play in conspiracy thinking?

Basically whatís happening in any conspiracy theory is that people have a need or a motivation to believe in this theory, and itís psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory, or you ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing, youíre probably a conspiracy theorist. We call that a self-sealing nature of reasoning.

Another common trait is the need to constantly expand the conspiracy as new evidence comes to light. For instance, with the so-called Climategate scandal, there were something like nine different investigations, all of which have exonerated the scientists involved. But the response from the people who held this notion was to say that all of those investigations were a whitewash. So it started with the scientists being corrupt and now not only is it them, but itís also all the major scientific organizations of the world that investigated them and the governments of the U.S. and the U.K., etc., etc. And thatís typical ó instead of accepting the evidence, you actually turn it around and say that itís actually evidence to support the conspiracy because it just means itís even broader than it was originally thought to be.

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http://www.salon.com/2013/04/24/why_people_be...

Everyone is prone to some degree of bias and motivated reasoning ó where do you draw the line, if there is one?

The crucial difference between having a preconceived notion ó we all do that, of course ó and conspiratorial thinking is when you get into that self-sealing reasoning and ignore every piece of evidence that is pointing the other way, when youíre starting to broaden the circle of conspirators, and when your skepticism gets to be nihilistic ó when you believe absolutely nothing that the government or the media is saying ó thatís when youíve crossed the line.

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http://www.salon.com/2013/04/24/why_people_be...

First of all, why do people believe conspiracy theories?

There are number of factors, but probably one of the most important ones in this instance is that, paradoxically, it gives people a sense of control. People hate randomness, they dread the sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a mechanism against that dread, it turns out that itís much easier to believe in a conspiracy. Then you have someone to blame, itís not just randomness.
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.... and itís psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory [belief], or you ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing .....
Sounds a lot like religion - both Testaments!

How are things downstate? Nice up here in New Haven County.

Did I see Huggybear lurking around here again?

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Sounds a lot like religion - both Testaments!
How are things downstate? Nice up here in New Haven County.
Did I see Huggybear lurking around here again?
Huggybear is around, tie up your goats

Downstate is downstate of upstate

Yes, that evidence based thinking thingie.....but most religious people don't link their deity as part of a larger conspiracy. Perhaps they should.
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Huggybear is around, tie up your goats
Downstate is downstate of upstate
Yes, that evidence based thinking thingie.....but most religious people don't link their deity as part of a larger conspiracy. Perhaps they should.
The full quote from Karl Marx is: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_peo...

Huggy might like his victims tied up!

Then we can get into sheep jokes an why sheep herders wear cowboy boots etc

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The full quote from Karl Marx is: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_peo...
Huggy might like his victims tied up!
Then we can get into sheep jokes an why sheep herders wear cowboy boots etc
You are mixing your concepts. It doesnt count if you have the conspiracy theory. Only if the religious person does.

Why DO sheep herders wear cowboy boots?
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No, that article had a specific topic, and lets stay on that topic for a change.
It proposed a modal personality and suggested several ways to sustain that personality. Was there anything in that article you really objected to? One of the more interesting things I got from it is that conspiracy theorists conjure their ideas up as a need to control their reality. Is that the case with you?
Yes i object to the whole thing because it refers to conspiracy theories not being evidence based.
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Yes i object to the whole thing because it refers to conspiracy theories not being evidence based.
Unfortunately few seem to care considering how ridiculously popular conspiracy theories are.

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Yes i object to the whole thing because it refers to conspiracy theories not being evidence based.
You know how many times we have presented corrections to you?
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You know how many times we have presented corrections to you?
None, you have only attempted to split hairs or stated a differing opion.
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You know how many times we have presented corrections to you?
Opinion that is.

And when i say that there are influentual people aspiring to create a one world government, you say thats a conspiracy theory, i prove it to you and then you poo poo it.
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Opinion that is.
And when i say that there are influentual people aspiring to create a one world government, you say thats a conspiracy theory, i prove it to you and then you poo poo it.
What "proof" is ever any solid proof in most conspiracy theories?
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You are mixing your concepts. It doesnt count if you have the conspiracy theory. Only if the religious person does.
Why DO sheep herders wear cowboy boots?
The key in the quote your provided for me was the belief in a concept and the rejection of evidence-based thinking.

The fact that it made Karl Marx happy was just a bonus.

The rear legs of the sheep fit nicely in the boots and then they can't run away....or so I hear.
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What "proof" is ever any solid proof in most conspiracy theories?
There are facts, even seemingly circumstantial facts can lead a person of above average intelligence to disbelieve the "official story".

NORAD was running drills on 9/11, when the hijackers actually hijacked the planes it caused mass confusion, recordings of the controllers asking "is this real world or exercise".

Building 7 fell straight to the ground in the path of most resistance at free fall speed.

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