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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

India

#51116 Apr 26, 2013
Those who outright dismiss every conspiracy as a product of imagination without proper thought or investigation and who accept as truth the official version of events are braindead and superficial individuals.
JOEL

India

#51117 Apr 26, 2013
Evidence can be fixed, destroyed or hidden given the agenda the government has in mind. Take for instance, the death toll of any well-publicized tragedy - are the actual number of the dead reported in the press who toe the official line? Usually, the numbers are rigged or downplayed depending on the severity of the event and its impact on public opinion or in keeping with strategic reasons or in accordance with the agenda of the authorities. So, those sub-intellectuals like Frijoles, Voluntarist, COR and others who invariably quote official versions and who stick like leeches to the official storyline cannot be taken seriously and are the seriously braindead posters here . They should be pitied.,
JOEL

India

#51118 Apr 26, 2013
not Voluntarist.
JOEL

India

#51119 Apr 26, 2013
SUB-INTELLECTUALS ON THIS THREAD:

1) MUQ

2) Frijoles

3) Eric

4) Hugh.

5) Liam R

6) COR
JOEL

India

#51120 Apr 26, 2013
RELIGIOUS FANATICS ON THIS THREAD:

1) MUQ

2) Frijoles

3) Eric

4) Hugh
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51121 Apr 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not conspiracy theorizing then. That is just using something other than empiracism as the basis of your thinking.
Can the sheep at least two step?
Correct. Never said it was.

A similar cognitive scheme enables the belief in religion and/or conspiracy theories (belief in a concept while actively rejecting evidence-based thinking ..."immune to evidence" your quote said ).

I believe you were pointing out how conspiracy believers are somehow out of touch with reality?

The sheep can do the walk of shame after the nightmare is over. And Huggy is finished.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51122 Apr 26, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct. Never said it was.
A similar cognitive scheme enables the belief in religion and/or conspiracy theories (belief in a concept while actively rejecting evidence-based thinking ..."immune to evidence" your quote said ).
I believe you were pointing out how conspiracy believers are somehow out of touch with reality?

The sheep can do the walk of shame after the nightmare is over. And Huggy is finished.
You are correct - I jumped ahead too quickly. However, in defense, you are also generalizing a bit, I think you are targeting religious extremists not religious in general. Its that acknowledgement of faith vs being oblivious thing again. Literally, being of faith means that you consciously accept the scriptures as testament and proceed from there....that is not being immune to evidence, that is accepting declaration the starting point of evidence..

In Huggys case, it would most decidedly not be a two step. Definitely a walk of shame.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51123 Apr 26, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Those who outright dismiss every conspiracy as a product of imagination without proper thought or investigation and who accept as truth the official version of events are braindead and superficial individuals.
How many years did you waste in a vain attempt to follow your Master?
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#51125 Apr 26, 2013
JOEL wrote:
SUB-INTELLECTUALS ON THIS THREAD:
1) MUQ
2) Frijoles
3) Eric
4) Hugh.
5) Liam R
6) COR
Stupid people who have been taken advantage of by others

1) Joel

Since: Jan 12

Europe

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IceCreamCohen

Sterling Heights, MI

#51127 Apr 26, 2013
But Jews DO proselytize, in other ways. By telling Christians tat they have to "love" and "support" Israel and the Jews, that is literally proselytization - b/c it is done to further a Jewish agenda. When Jews put eruvs around an entire town, forcing Christians to live within what is now symbolically a Jewish "home", that's proselytizing. When Jews force companies to ensure that their food is kosher (under threat of mass boycott), the company has to then 1) change to kosher practices and 2) hire rabbis to stand around all overseeing the practices. This costs money and is a burden. It also means that Christians are forced to eat kosher food; I've heard Jews and others complain about having to eat halal food without permission; therefore, if Jews feel halal is objectionable, kosher, which is nearly identical, must also be objectionable. Lastly, Christians are forced to pay higher taxes to support Israel, so that Israel (a socialist nation, by the way) can let orthodox males collect welfare. This way, they can read Torah and Talmud all day every day rather than work. That is religious coercion; Christians are literally being forced to fund Jewish religious studies!
Voluntarist

United States

#51128 Apr 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
"......The crucial difference between having a preconceived notion — we all do that, of course — and conspiratorial thinking is when you get into that self-sealing reasoning and ignore every piece of evidence that is pointing the other way, when you’re starting to broaden the circle of conspirators, and when your skepticism gets to be nihilistic — when you believe absolutely nothing that the government or the media is saying — that’s when you’ve crossed the line...."
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/24/why_people_be...
Actually most of us that looked at 9/11 looked at it from the biased view of the " official story" . 9/11 turned many people into non-believers of government rhetoric, myself included.
Prior to 9/11 i accepted the official theater news story because i was under the silly impression that the media always had to tell the truth.

This self-sealing reasoning speaks of exactly what those that believe in governmemt explanations express, when faced with facts they can not accept the fact that governments lie, especially to get into wars.
Its a reification process, and lots of people including you can not fathom that men and women calling themselves government lie.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51129 Apr 26, 2013
DEMON-WORSHIPPERS ON THIS THREAD:

1) Frijoles

2) Eric

3) MUQ

(smiles)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51130 Apr 26, 2013
EUGENIC PERVERTS - HYPOGAMOUS/INBRED FILTH ON THIS THREAD:

1) Frijoles

2) Eric

3) MUQ

4) Hugh

5) Liam R

6) Susan Blange

7) Rabbee
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51131 Apr 26, 2013
PS: Rabbee is another demon-worshipper.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51132 Apr 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

How many years did you waste in a vain attempt to follow your Master?
I gained a lot in the yogic sense so much that the knowledge and insights into the reality of Moses, Jesus, Rama and Muhammad fade before mine and all this has been possible on account of my ex-master though he tried to block me from rising further and has been the source of much suffering...

Till today the yogic experiences are continuing in a spontaneous way...

As for you, well, you're still stuck (like your parents and relatives) on the evil level of demon-worship and as for intellectual achievements a 12th grader from Cathedral would know more than you and have superior reasoning skills compared to your pathetic logic.

ROFL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51133 Apr 26, 2013
Rabbee is a demon incarnate and as expected a satanist.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51134 Apr 26, 2013
I can only wonder at the filthy genes that Rabbee has inherited from his genetically abnormal and satanist parents. What a sub-human type, Rabbee is.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51135 Apr 26, 2013
Rabbee is a born liar, a fake scientist and has the reasoning skills of a retard and as for math, physics and chemistry knowledge or skills, well, Rabbee is a big zero and couldn't correctly answer a single fundamental question in chem, physics and math that I'd directed at him some months ago and expectedly he came up with wrong answers to every elementary question posed. LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51136 Apr 26, 2013
Rabbee is a rabid satanist. LOL.

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