Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Cult of Reason wrote:
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Let reason prevail.
I agree and people shouldn't believe in a nonexistent state.
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I think I'm even more thankful for not living in Mississippi or Alabama.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/153479/mississippi...
Factually what is Mississippi or Alabama?
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Feb 17, 2013
 
Hi Papa,

Leave the dreary math and dull chem aside for sometime and swing with Bazooka Bubble Gum.

My Mom
She gave me a dollar
She told me to buy a collar
But i didn't buy no collar
Instead I bought some Bubble Gum
Bazooka, zooka Bubble Gum.....

I am in high spirits at the moment and am swinging to Bazooka Bubble Gum as I am typing this post....yeah.

Lots of Love and Best Regards,

Your son,

Joel.
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BURIAL IS BETTER THAN CREMATION:

1) It's better to bury than to cremate the body, since, as typed above, the finer vital and mental forces wrapped around the psychic stay in the cataleptic body for 7 days after the exiting of the most material and physico-vital forces from the body which is the commencement of the condition called death brought about by excess wear and tear of the body that leads to the dislocation of the planes and parts of being and decomposition of the body parts.

2) If the body is cremated within hours of catalepsy setting in, as is the usual practice, then the coiled-up subtle vital and psychological forces in the body get disturbed and are forced out of the burning body which as a result lead to unbalances in their vibrational frequencies and to a distressful state in the disembodied existence follows.

3) The body should be peacefully buried with the head facing the geographic north which corresponds to the magnetic south pole of the earth so that the residual magnetic field of the body with its magnetic north being located in the region of the head and its magnetic south being stationed in the feet would get feebly attracted by the magnetic poles of the earth given the fact that unlike magnetic poles attract. This stabilizes the subtle forces that still inhabit the body after the most material and the physico-vital forces exit the body.
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Always bury the dead body, never cremate it.
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DONATION OF ORGANS IS DANGEROUS:

1) Never pledge your organs to medical instutions since each organ has its corresponding force center that inhabits the brain. The withdrawal of the consciousness of the body due to death does not completely sever the link between the organs and the consciousness and if one foolishly donates one's organ/organs then with the surgical extraction of this/these the link with the disembodied consciousness is snapped leading to great instabilities in the force centers with which the organ/organs is/are associated. The chances are high that upon the recycling of the disembodied consciousness - reincarnation - the person will develop abnormalities in either the organic or the functional aspect of the organ/organs that were previously donated.

2) Same logic applies in case of organ/fluid transplant/transfusion but to a lesser degree since the recepient's embodied consciousness can in such a case either adapt or overcome the new consciousness entering its body with an organ/fluid transplant/transfusion.
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GANGNAM STYLE with Psy. Wow! I'm rockin'.

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That's true.
Would you confirm that the following people were book's characters whose existence cannot be proven, like that of Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Set, Methuselah, Noah, Shem, Ham, Japhet, Abraham, Isaac, Yacob, Judah, Salomon, Isaiah?
I quoted Saadia Gaon whatever conclusion is not reached by sound reasoning must be a figure of speech.
So for the use of the figures of speech in parshas i would agree.
But reading up on the region, several characters do have actual progenitors. Or first figured in a different form. Abram would have been the old name for the silk-road. Silk-road as name is again a hebrew semitic derived word.
Yacub and Moses are found.
Or like BAAL having been the consort of Mari hAnath (i can't type the actual symbol for the pronounciation of the h.) and having a son called Jebus. The old name for a while for jerusalem in Abrams time buying a plot from the Heth. I presume a r-b shift later.
I acquire ever more attributions the more i learn of the region and surrounding areas.
The timeframe is also an issue as well as what climate was actually present.
I left the exodus discussion for now.
YA as prefix or suffix is at least allready 4000 years in use if not 6000 if we take the cuneiform IA.

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Factually what is Mississippi or Alabama?
More relevant: Which one of these concepts describes you the best?

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More relevant: Which one of these concepts describes you the best?
sanity
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The ability to think and behave in a normal and rational manner; sound mental health.
Reasonable and rational behavior.
insanity
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Objection please answer the question.

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This might be of interest to you, knowing your proclivities

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/17/the_labia_pri...

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OOOPS - wrong link

I meant this one

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/15/guerilla_surv...

Guerrilla surveillance camera destruction hits the U.S.

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I quoted Saadia Gaon whatever conclusion is not reached by sound reasoning must be a figure of speech.
So for the use of the figures of speech in parshas i would agree.
But reading up on the region, several characters do have actual progenitors. Or first figured in a different form. Abram would have been the old name for the silk-road. Silk-road as name is again a hebrew semitic derived word.
Yacub and Moses are found.
Or like BAAL having been the consort of Mari hAnath (i can't type the actual symbol for the pronounciation of the h.) and having a son called Jebus. The old name for a while for jerusalem in Abrams time buying a plot from the Heth. I presume a r-b shift later.
I acquire ever more attributions the more i learn of the region and surrounding areas.
The timeframe is also an issue as well as what climate was actually present.
I left the exodus discussion for now.
YA as prefix or suffix is at least allready 4000 years in use if not 6000 if we take the cuneiform IA.
And so their existence cannot be proven, making them book's characters along with Muhammad and the Nazarene.

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Frijoles wrote:
my bad
Their goods.

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STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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And so their existence cannot be proven, making them book's characters along with Muhammad and the Nazarene.
That would be stretching the argument too far.
Reasoning like that you could also state that Ramses never existed but was an eleborate fairytale worked in the medium of that time.
Most of Egyptian archeology are figments of the imagination of Manetho and Albright. Huge gaps and many wrong translations. Hebrew history used to also just beholden to Albrights authority.
And just going by Pro Nomen is not a good way to do research.
The field of what is/was not thoroughly researched is huge.
That which is not dated even larger. And a lot simply gathering dust...musea not aware they had it.

And then you get translating and comparing. Which can take years apart from restauring.

Usually you find some actual king being the fore-runner of the god-name or it coinciding. Like the temple of El build by him and his wife, does not mean a god did so.
It's just different cultural concepts.(though most queeens and kings now still rule with godly authority) Kinging and godly authority two peas in a pod. Before that all 'royal' authority came from the earth mother. And before that presumably from a totem-spirit. Or ancestral spirit.

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Egyptian Ra god etc. the divine authority by which kings rule. Re has a different meaning.
Ra in most 1500 bc languages give/a form of be/rock figures largely. Also YHWH had a birthstone/rock. As did Baal.
Near the sixth cataract you would find a cave huge as a cathedral where kings were crowned. Outside of it stands the rock of Ra, cobra shaped, like a huge signpost.
The meme is still present in Soedans history, though Egypt just about forgot.
It frankly should be named Ra of Re since Ra got that meaning of sungod-Re.
Rocks of special shapes or giving a special sound would be places where cermonies took place. That is attested allover the world.

This would be such a (rare)case were the place coincides with the concept. Where we do not end up with a person of god, or a later god-person but actually the very rock.

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Given that Seti was an amateur archeologist that wanted to give the country a bit of provenance.
So he was realy busy building and restoring, creating king lists writing history on top of pilars a.s.o.
And some acts like going everywhere in the then known world were attributed to Ramses but turned out to be perpetrated by another bloke send out by order.(of Seti?)
So stating that Ramses coud have been an elaborate fairy tale just as the kinglist maybe, is not so strange.

Therefore you need stringent criteria, and that would not be the bible or the church or sites that refute these sources.

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Garbage in-garbage out, is what you want to avoid.

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