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rabbee yehoshooah adam

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01. I did not start this series in the form of "apology". We have nothing to apologize for.
Why only our prophet, every prophet of God has to come out with clean hands. You have very false notion about the stature and office of prophet, that is why you make such loose comments about them.
Prophets of God and God' chosen people and His selection is not humans. He picks up best and most suitable persons for the job.
02. Prof. Margoliuth is the "most biased" scholar that I have seen. The way he accepts parts of the same Hadith and reject other, as per his own wish, tells of his bias.
03. In Islam there was never any ban on any branch of science or technology. It was Christian Church which banned study of astronomy. Quran is the Only Scripture on the face of earth that can stand on its feet with discoveries of Modern Science.
04. My posts might look like Anti Western to you, but you should also look at your posts, how anti Islamic they are. These are two way streets and you cannot put whole blame to one side.
And West's progress in science and technology does not mean that they have become experts on every field. They have to learn from Eastern people about religion and how religious debates and discussions are carried out.
05. There is nothing like Modernism. Every age is Modern to its contemporaries and becomes outdated to those who come after them.
Human nature and things which are bad for human civilizations do not change just because we live in Modern age.
Sexual immorality, Sodomy and Lesbianism,. Free Sex, Alcoholism, Narcotic consumption , Gambling and Usury shall always be bad for human civilization, irrespective on in which age we live.
Islam deals with these fundamentals and bans each and every thing that is harmful to human civilization as a whole.
rabbee: well you all, owe G-D an appology for your mental attitudes against HIM. does it matter, whether all you hypocrites judge each other in your own untruness to G-D? what is the point, of making those in your religion happy, if they all make G-D unhappy? kissing anyones butt, to make them feel good. is not going to get you, anywhere with G-D.

all the signs in the world, reveal that G-D is unhappy with the whole world. and you all act, as if everything is fine with you?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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I noticed that televion tends to show more controversial opinions, makes for more interest holding programs.
I recall Ali B. a dutch morrocan rapper (If you ain't black you ave no cause rappin. Just my opinion. It looks wanna-be) going to Israel and the territories. Israeli rapprs were declared non-interesting. The gaza-pssies however were rude and opiniated, so that made for a more interesting biassed program.
I also i the Bush ears talked to a high-school kid that had with his class been interviewed by CNN about Bush's policies.
Well they were selected and trained weeks in advance, so all appeared wellbehaved and nothing out of the ordinary was said.
Which was interesting (having seen the interview)because just about every person had a strong opinion. It made them look like they were slightly retarded.
For this program you mentioned they could also have used Ethiopean origin jews. The tone would have been different, but Biden was a strange cookie.
I'm by the way a big fan of Obama and his policies. And frankly none can move the process. So it's no chip on my shoulder.
And why do you not support Israel?
rabbee: because giving your support to anyone or anything but G-D, is called idolatry. and even to give your support to arabs and palestineans, is still called idolatry. i can't even afford to give support to myself, without the danger of it becoming idolatry.

and you can give your support to obama, instead of G-D all you want. but it's still witchraft, leading one into idolatry. why else would i not give, my support to any politician today. because most politicians today, are antiG-D idolaterous sorcers or witches. who do not want you, to support G-D above them.
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A friend of me just told me that muslims are backward. Why?
In Nigeria they just beheaded 3 South-korean doctors, and shot nine nurses that had come to give polio-vaccinations.
Accusing them of the west wanting to kill the muslim-population in Nigeria by culling their children. So you must be backward-thinking to come to a conclusion like that.
Wel i agree.
So far the spread of modernity and pro-science stance of muslims.
Because the christians overthere don't react like that. They know about immunisation and that polio can lead to paralysis and handicaps.
And bokha haram are against anything that reeks of western education.
Well that's thus no education!
So MUQ, i'm not buying your tune of modernity not existing.
If not it's needed badly.
rabbee: it is kind of tragic, to watch as idolators, oppose the idolatry of others. cause theirs is, the only true idolatry.
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If religion does not lead to realization and direct experience then it is mumbo jumbo.
rabbee: that, or mumbo joel.
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To remain forever confined on the gross level of rituals, thoughts and scripture is a sure sign of inferiority.
rabbee: well that explains, why most reject all of yours.
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Imitation is mediocrity.
rabbee: yeah and everyone, should reject being limited by you also.
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Excerpt From UNCOMMON WISDOM By FRITJOF CAPRA:
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R D Laing in no way denied the existence of mental illness. But he insisted that, in order to understand a patient, the psychiatrist had to understand him in the context of his relations with other human beings, which included very centrally the relationship between the patient and psychiatrist himself. Traditional psychiatry, by contrast, has followed a Cartesian approach in which the patient is isolated from his or her environment - conceptually and physically - and labeled in terms of a well-defined mental disease. Laing emphasized that no one has schizophrenia like having a cold and went on to make the radical assertion that in many of the classic psychiatric texts the very psychopathology projected on to the person called "patient" can clearly be seen manifested in the mentality of the psychiatrist.
QUESTION:
Where lies the flaw in psychiatry/psychiatric methods as described above by Capra?
rabbee: well the problem with psychiatry is, they are tring to make diverse disease, more in line with their diverseness. and who would want to be treated, by any group that has a higher rated of mental imbalance than any other religious group?
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Nah - crystals - you probably got the right stuff for the doggies.
calcium chloride CaCl2
rabbee: yeah so what if, an increase of calcium in the enviroment. may result in, an increase in kidney stones. by reacting with, oxalic acid in plants. what's a few kidney stones, compared to the benefits o vegies?
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For some reason Mao Tse Tung and also perhaps the Khmer Rouge comes to mind
is that the giving of mickey or mini's, mao tse tung?
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Sometimes a man has to remove the sht from his shoes...
rabbee: is that from the inside or the outside, of the shoes? does one dare wear odor eaters, for the fear of disappearig in less than three steps?

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rabbee: yeah so what if, an increase of calcium in the enviroment. may result in, an increase in kidney stones. by reacting with, oxalic acid in plants. what's a few kidney stones, compared to the benefits o vegies?
My kidney stones were analyzed and found not be from oxalic acid, so that is not a concern.

Besides, you need a relatively high pH (7-8) for calcium to even be available to plants, and even after incorporation, calcium, like most of the rest of the plant secondary macronutrients, is not very mobile.

The Cl is more of a problem. It results in desiccation and salt burn of the plants, as well as lowered resistance to disease - usually months later. Its a big problem on our landscape here in the NE due to snow management.

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rabbee: is that from the inside or the outside, of the shoes? does one dare wear odor eaters, for the fear of disappearig in less than three steps?
Speak for yourself. My feet are perfect (unless I dabble with the Jamaican doo doo)
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Projection on the part of Hughbe. He obviously has unresolved issues. He needs to come out of the closet and also ditch his fundamentalist religion.
He's a weirdo and a perv rolled in one - typical traits of most religious fundies, everywhere.
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I think you have taken the wise course. A less principled and more stubborn man would of continued into self immolation.
Yes, the life-threatening attacks became too persistent and far too serious and so I quit and cut all ties with master.

Surprisingly, despite backing out, the yoga experiences are continuing till date in a most spontaneous way.

I've now turned into a silent witness of the whole process and have no wish to actively participate and invite more horrific attacks from the adverse vital beings.

Anyway, I've just come in after a long day. Busy with paper work and was at the new Altamount Road apartment this afternoon checking the marble stone and granite stone flooring work that's underway. Furniture and fittings will follow. Chose the furniture earlier and will order the suites as soon as the basic work is complete. I've chosen ivory white for the walls in all the rooms with peach, coffee brown and pale gold hues in patches in select areas. A wall near the French windows in the living room leading to the terrace garden will feature exquisite lapis lazuli stones employing pietra dura inlaid work in novel geometrics and the French windows will have stained glass sheets in place and so on......I've designed the interiors and made certain interesting architectural changes in the apartment.

I'll shower a little later. I tend to shower 2 or 3 times a day.
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Many of them are ethical systems with added technologies to communicate with the divine, and they leave it at that.
Communicate with the divine?

Communicating with what you call the "divine" can only be done via trance when the individual's awakened consciousness merges with the archetypal consciousness of the being that it calls the divine .

I don't know what you mean by the divine.

Is that the absolute?

The absolute is very different from God or a being that styles itself as G-d/God.

If it's a single being (among numerous rival beings) that you worship, as it has to be given the teachings of the scripture, then that's your exclusive idea of the divine.

Each faith has its own being or a mass of beings that believers worship.

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Perfection means manifesting the whole of the absolute in the manifestation and that would involve complete mastery over the whole universe and beyond to its underlying mechanisms. It progresses in stages as each emergence brings in newer and higher faculties, phenomena and laws.
http://www.tikkun.org/article.php/mar2010gree...

We would understand the entire course of evolution, from the simplest life-forms millions of years ago, to the great complexity of the human brain (still now only barely understood), and proceeding onward into the unknown future, to be a meaningful process. It is a place -- perhaps even the place -- where the sacred waits to be discovered. There is a One that reveals itself to us within and behind the great diversity of life. That One is Being itself, the constant in the endlessly changing evolutionary parade. Viewed from our end of the process, the search that leads to such discovery of that One is our human quest for meaning.

But turned around, seen from the perspective of the constantly evolving life-energy, evolution can be seen as an ongoing process of revelation or self-manifestation. We discover; it reveals. It reveals; we discover. As the human mind advances (from our point of view), understanding more of the structure, process, and history of the ever-evolving One, we are being given (from its point of view) ever greater insight into who we are and how we got here.

This ongoing self-disclosure is the result of a deep and mysterious inner drive, the force of Being directed from within, however imperfectly and stumblingly, to manifest itself ever more fully, in ever more diverse, complex, and interesting ways. That has caused it to bring about, in the long and slow course of its evolution, the emergence of a mind that can reflect upon the process, articulate it, and strive toward the life of complete awareness that will fulfill its purpose. Here on this smallish planet in the middle of an otherwise undistinguished galaxy, something so astonishing has taken place that it indeed demands to be called by the biblical term "miracle," rather than by the Greco-Latin "nature," even though the two are pointing to the exact same set of facts. The descendents of one-celled creatures grew and developed, emerged onto dry land, learned survival skills, and developed language and thought, until a subset of them could reflect on the nature of this entire process and seek to derive meaning from it.

The coming to be of "higher" or more complex forms of life, and eventually of humanity, is not brought about by the specific and conscious planning of what is sometimes called "intelligent design." But neither is it random and therefore inherently without meaning. It is rather the result of an inbuilt movement within the whole of being, the underlying dynamism of existence striving to be manifest ever more fully in minds that it brings forth and inhabits, through the emergence of increasingly complex and reflective selves. I think of that underlying One in immanent terms, a being or life force that dwells within the universe and all its forms, rather than a Creator from beyond who forms a world that is "other" and separate from its own Self. This One -- the only One that truly is -- lies within and behind all the diverse forms of being that have existed since the beginning of time; it is the single Being (as the Hebrew name Y-H-W-H indicates) clothed in each individual being and encompassing them all.

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Communicate with the divine?
Communicating with what you call the "divine" can only be done via trance when the individual's awakened consciousness merges with the archetypal consciousness of the being that it calls the divine .
I don't know what you mean by the divine.
Is that the absolute?
The absolute is very different from God or a being that styles itself as G-d/God.
If it's a single being (among numerous rival beings) that you worship, as it has to be given the teachings of the scripture, then that's your exclusive idea of the divine.
Each faith has its own being or a mass of beings that believers worship.
"The absolute is very different from God or a being that styles itself as G-d/God..."

Thats a matter of articulation and limitations of using language.

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"Each faith has its own being or a mass of beings that believers worship..."

Your outside-looking-in interpretations of other religions are very pagan, and undoubtably colored by your predisposition to understand thing from the framework of your Indian back ground.

Why cant you accept that many religions are in fact monotheistic, and furthermore, the only reason they are not exactly monistic is somewhat because of language issues, and somewhat because the masses are more suited for activity than meditation?

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Communicate with the divine?
Communicating with what you call the "divine" can only be done via trance when the individual's awakened consciousness merges with the archetypal consciousness of the being that it calls the divine
There is a huge debate among the theoreticians whether a consciousness merge is actually a merge or a cleaving. That is a matter of personal opinion, as far as I am concerned. And probably it was really a merge, noone would be able to return to tell us about it.

There are billions of techniques to alter ones consciousness (i.e. trance). Thats why shamanism and meditation are found cross culturally.
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There is a One that reveals itself to us within and behind the great diversity of life.
The Ultimate Reality is not One Being as that would make the entire thing too personal.

Absolute or the Ultimate Reality is beyond both personality and impersonality and is a System or a Unified Field that serves as the material as well as efficient source of the Manifestation.

Consciousness and Energy are the only tangibles on any plane of existence whether gross or subtle and so it is logical to conclude that the ultimate reality is a system or a unified field of consciousness-energy in their highest unified poises and that this unified field has, in partial manifestation via an inherent causal mechanism, given rise to the graduated cosmos.
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But turned around, seen from the perspective of the constantly evolving life-energy, evolution can be seen as an ongoing process of revelation or self-manifestation.
Incorrect.

Life-energy/the Vital is the most inferior range of the manifested unified field of consciousness-energy that just exceeds Matter.

Inferior to Matter is the Inconscient - the domain of the Involution of the manifested totality.

Life-energy exceeds Matter but is inferior to the Mind range of cosmic consciousness-energy.

The Cosmic Mind Plane has several ranges and exceeding the Cosmic Mind Plane are the Supramental ranges of consciousness-energy and exceeding the Supramental are still subtler ranges until one arrives at the peak Cosmic plane and exits the cosmic planes altogether to merge with the Supracosmic ranges and further beyond the Supracosmic ranges is the Supreme Causal Mechanism, beyond the Supreme Causal Mechanism is the manifest aspect of the Unified Field of Consciousness-Energy and beyond the Unified Field of Consciousness-Energy is the unmanifest aspect of the Unified Field of Consciousness-Energy.

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