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JOEL

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Jan 31, 2013
 
QUESTION:

How true is this assertion - change is the only thing we can be certain of?
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#48253
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SEMITIC IDEA OF GOD:

What the Middle Easterners meant by G-d or God is a being of a particular plane of the Manifestation.

The Absolute is very different.

YHVH/El, Allah, Baal, Molech and other beings are G-d or God to various groups of people.
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ALLAH - A GENERIC & SPECIFIC NAME:

Allah is both a generic as well as a specific name given to a particular being. As a generic name, Allah refers to God in general - a being of a plane - and as a specific name, Allah refers to the Islamic being, its God.
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EL/YHVH - A SPECIFIC NAME OF A PARTICULAR BEING:

Yes, El/YHVH is a being of a particular plane of the Manifestation which the ancient Hebrews worshipped as G-d. As such El/YHVH is not a generic name like the Islamic Allah which is both generic as well as specific.
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MONOTHEISM & ALLAH AND YHVH ARE DIFFERENT BEINGS:

Both YHVH of the Hebrews and Allah of the Muslims are fiercely individualistic beings of specific planes of the Manifestation who warned their respective bunch of followers to refrain from worshipping rival beings and in this sense both Judaism and Islam are rigidly monotheistic faiths. However, based on the characteristics, scope and teachings, it should be noted that YHVH and Allah are not the same being.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
MONOTHEISM & STRIFE:

Monotheism means the worship of one being to the exclusion of others. This accounts for all the jealousy, dire warnings to apostates and heretics, savagery, constant warfare with people who worship other beings, blood sacrifice as an act of appeasement and of forging a bond with the being worshipped. Monotheism is a very inferior and parochial form of worship that invariably breeds extremists and fanatics.

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Jan 31, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
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Former--Is Huggy saying there is absolutely nothing to be learned from fiction?
HughBe--- Son son, your man is saying that Simpson is the SOURCE of wisdom. Sit in a corner and THINK, for a change.
Former--You are being dishonest. This is not at all what Frijoles said.
HughBe--- Listen well BOY, don't step beyond your bounds. YOU are LYING, as usual. His actual words follow, DUNCE/LIAR.
Frijoles--"Homer Simpson is also a SOURCE of wisdom"
HughBe siad: "Son son, your man is saying that Simpson is THE source of wisdom. Sit in a corner and THINK, for a change."

Frijoles said: "Homer Simpson is also A source of wisdom".

Big contextual difference between "THE source" and "A source". You are being deceitful as usual. Jesus would not be proud of you.
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#48259
Jan 31, 2013
 
MONISM is far superior to MONOTHEISM and is nearer to the truth of existence but it has its own limitations in the ultimate stage of its reach.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
GAN-EDHEN & DILMUN:

Sumerian mythology, that is older than the Tanach, has a parallel to the Hebrew Gan-Edhen garden in Dilmun, the dwelling-place of the immortals where sickness and death are unknown.
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Frijoles---Jewish people dont accept Jesus as their personal saviors. That is Christianity, not Judaism.
HughBe--- It certainly is Christianity and not Judaism, so you are correct, for a change. However, I am still trying to understand how YOUR Satan became so dominant within you.
To say that Jewish people don't accept Jesus and to imply that they accept your religion is BS.
Learn and understand these facts.
1. Some Jewish people accept Jesus, the Jew, as their Messiah.
2. Many Jewish people embrace Judaism
3. Many Jewish people REJECT Judaism and I suspect that in the main the greater intelligence is in this group as opposed to your group/Judaism.
4. A significant number of Jews are into Easter religion and NOT Judaism.
rabbee: should i accept any lie, or liar as my messiah? and since the name jesus, is not the truth. would any one be justified, in rejecting the lie? even one lie is not acceptable, because it only leads to more lies. can all the liars, on these message boards ever tell the real truth here in TheTorah Happening today?
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HughBe wrote:
Frijoles, what you have demonstrated once again is that your religion teaches HATE.
Certainly the Jew who wrote the article in the Jerusalem Post is NOT a member of Judaism. How do I know this? It is a HONEST report. Had he been a blind DUMB sheep like you he would NEVER have written it.
God BLESS him ABUNDANTLY.
Finally, intelligence have REJECTED your religion. Only the deceived remain with it.
How long will the deception last?
Time will tell.
rabbee: all the liars in this world, are not going to save it. and no matter how good of a liar, you or they are. liars are not, your best friend.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
Text torturing yields nothing!
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A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. However, Judaism as a religion does not regard Jesus as the Messiah. As I said earlier, they are still waiting for Messiah to return. Messianic Jews believe in Jesus as the Messiah. As confirmed by an actual Jew earlier (scroll up), it's not viewed as a branch of Judaism by those who actually practice the religion. However, I'm NOT a Jew so perhaps you should go ask one. I'm simply going by what I've read and what I've been told. Also I'm well aware of which Tree my branch of faith has grown from. I really don't need you to educate me on that fact.
rabbee: well who did G-D appoint as HaMosheeach, all TheOther Times G-D gave this same story for day seven of the phyical creation? or do you think, G-D is a liar? and that it is not, TheSame One as always? don't you believe G-D, here in TheTorah just again? there is not mystery, as to who is HaMosheeach. G-D let you all know well in advace, just who they both always are.
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JOEL wrote:
Second Coming of Jesus and Rapture are myths - Jesus is not powerful enough to regenerate the earth nature and humanity. His mission on earth 2000 years ago was a colossal failure.
rabbee: well first of all, i am not a myth. and secondly my name ain't the lie jesus either. and do not call me a failure, just because you fail to see and recognize the truth from G-D. you and the whole world choosing to fail, does not make me the failure you all are.
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Jan 31, 2013
 
JOEL wrote:
FAKE SCRIPTURES:
1) The scriptures have been written or re-written by the Free Masons centuries or millennia ago to fit in with their unfolding plan of world domination as revealed to them and which at times is being revealed to them in the present on a need-to-know basis via the subtle vision.
2) Gullible believers are under the false impression that their book or scripture contains the truth and that its prophecies are accurate when actually everything is staged and can be used or discarded as per the unfurling plan that is in its culminating stages.
3) The Illum guys have subverted all religions and churches and control them by placing their own members as church heads.
4) The poor prophets and their God are powerless and too ignorant to engineer a transformation.
ROFL
rabbee: yeah and your ony true fake scripture, are sooo much better. what was it that mr lizard lips said, make up your own stuff so you can be as g-ds?
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Frijoles wrote:
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I see you are experiencing a flavor of Hughbe
the term "alternate reality" comes to mind - though I perhaps "personal reality" might be a better term
rabbee: frijoles, would you consider using, alternut reality?
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JOEL wrote:
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Post something intelligent for a change instead of arguing over scriptural mumbo jumbo.
rabbee: yeah you only want them to use, your scriptural mumbo jumbo.
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JOEL wrote:
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Anything and everything can be a source of wisdom.
Take the wise words or wise actions from any source, even from the most unlikely and insignificant, and enrich yourself and evolve in real time.
If you think that scripture is the fountain-head of wisdom then you're sadly mistaken since most of scriptural teachings are junk and can easily be proven to be so.
Never make the mistake of thinking that any scripture is the last word on truth or existence.
The last word is yet to be spoken.
rabbee: lies are never a source of true wisdom. but they are only the product, of the decieved by them.
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JOEL wrote:
QUESTION:
How true is this assertion - change is the only thing we can be certain of?
rabbee: generally always getting for the worse, not for the betterment.

““You must not lose faith ”

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01Justsayin wrote:
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Hmm...sounds like something worth reading up on :)
It is indeed.
I did not go for the search, for i have posted all links allready in sinaiticus: 1600 years etc. And when it came up in the allah thread.
But it is always best if people read various sources, highlighting different points of view, and several sides on the same issue, for themselves, and make up their own, by then informed mind.

The one on the watertable might be a hard search. If you fail to find it, let me know.

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