Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#45602 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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there was possibly more than one shooter
press conference within the hour
rabbee: i would rather find out, who has angered G-D this much at us all? for this, to even of occured.

as i am sure the moral decay of this nation, has yet to reach its peak. so i would not be looking, for things to less worse or less often.

but it is still not like, over 40,000 dead in syria. and angered G-D, even more than we are.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45603 Dec 14, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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.... Over my many posts I have NOT been insulting Jews. I have been DEFENDING the IDENTITY of the Jewish people....
If Frijoles could only understand this, he would come to appreciate what is is you're trying to do for his people!
voluntarist

United States

#45604 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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Do you think maybe "the queers" are also involved?
You tell me you should have inside information.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45605 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
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My cousin has kids in that school district. Luckily, they are okay.
Shooter's Dad lives in Westover. Go figure.
voluntarist

United States

#45606 Dec 14, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: by the govenment mo, do you mean we the people? or they. our alleged as representatives?
Neither, the shadow government.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#45607 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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Neither, the shadow government.
rabbee: well that, is so well timed. since the latest scientific, uproar. scientist in germany are not testing, to see if the universe is a computer simulation. and that we are nothing more, than a simulation within a simulation. are we real or are, we memorex?

oh wow! may the matrix, be with you!

what could be worse, than finding out. that luke skywalker, is actually darth vader's father.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#45608 Dec 14, 2012
now testing that should be.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#45609 Dec 14, 2012
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-7

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : One Jew in Medina

His name is mentioned in Islamic books of history, he was a wealthy Jew in Medina, he wanted to test the perseverance and patience of the prophet, and was looking for some suitable opportunity to arise.

Once prophet had to borrow some money from him, to meet some immediate need. He gave the money and the period of repayment of due was fixed.

While there were still some days remaining for the grace period, he approached Prophet, while he was teaching a group of his companions, including Omar Bin Khattab.

The Jew addressed prophet like this “O Mohammad, when will you repay my due? I know the clan of Hashim, they are never true to their trust, it seems you will never return my money”.

His companions were stunned by the tone and charge of the Jew, Omar stood up and said “O enemy of Allah, do you not realize, to whom you are speaking? O prophet of Allah, allow me and I will kill him”.

“Omar calm down” said the prophet,“You should have spoken with justice, you should have asked me to pay my debt, and you should have asked him to be polite in his demand”

“Now you go and pay him the dues” said Prophet to Omar “And give him some more, because of the anxiety which you caused him”

The Jew came back some time later with money and said to prophet “I only wanted to test your patience, I am now convinced of your faith, I declare my faith and become Muslim, and this money, I give in charity in the cause of Allah”

This is story of Jew who was slain by the “Sword of Patience”!!

The Case of : One old Woman of Makkah

Old women are very steadfast in their religion and faith. It is not easy for them to change their religion or faith easily and they look with contempt on any one who tries that. This is impression of any one who has experience is propagation of faith.

There was an Old women in Makkah, who was very firm in the faith of Makkan people, when she came to know that our prophet is condemning that faith and had started a “New religion”……she started hating our prophet with extreme hatred.

It so happened that The Woman, was residing on the first floor of the house and prophet had to walk by her house, when he used to go out for any business.

The woman kept watch and whenever prophet will walk under her balcony, she would throw dust and garbage on his head, under the pretext of cleaning her house and balcony. Prophet would move away, cleaning his hairs and clothes from the dirt.

It so happened that once three days passed and nothing was thrown from that balcony. On fourth day, prophet became curious, he went up the stairs and knocked at the door. He found the old woman sick and with fever and no one to take care for her.

The prophet consoled her, and gave her some water and went to bring some medicine for her. When prophet was returning from the house, the Old woman called him back and said “I was so wrong about you and your message, I now repent and accept your faith”

With that she declared Islamic Creed “I witness that there is no deity except Allah and Mohammad is His Messenger”!!

Such is the case of another enemy of prophet “slain” by the “Sword of Kindness”

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
former res

Broomall, PA

#45610 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
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You tell me you should have inside information.
Was that intended to be two sentences or one?

Did you learn about punctuation?

I don't have the honor of claiming membership in the gay community.

But thanks for the nod.
Voluntarist

United States

#45611 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Shooter's Dad lives in Westover. Go figure.
Another dangerous kid on psychotropic drugs.
Voluntarist

United States

#45612 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
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Was that intended to be two sentences or one?
Did you learn about punctuation?
I don't have the honor of claiming membership in the gay community.
But thanks for the nod.
I'm on an android phone leave me along.
You don't have the best grammar tough Guy.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45614 Dec 15, 2012
former res wrote:
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If Frijoles could only understand this, he would come to appreciate what is is you're trying to do for his people!
Former---he would come to appreciate what is is you're trying to do for HIS PEOPLE.

HughBe--- I was NOT speaking about HIS FELLOW Americans. However, I was speaking about HIS FELLOW gays and as such I disagree with you given that I have not been supportive of their NASTY sexual practices.

former res

Broomall, PA

#45616 Dec 15, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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I'm on an android phone leave me along.
You don't have the best grammar tough Guy.
Ok, I'll leave you along.

:))

Do you know how to press the little microphone and speak your emails?

That's usually what I do when I'm on the phone.

Do you not own a computer? It seems you're always on a phone.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45617 Dec 15, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Former---he would come to appreciate what is is you're trying to do for HIS PEOPLE.
HughBe--- I was NOT speaking about HIS FELLOW Americans. However, I was speaking about HIS FELLOW gays and as such I disagree with you given that I have not been supportive of their NASTY sexual practices.
More willful ignorance from the tropics.

Clearly we were speaking of religion.

I was referring to Frijoles' ethnoreligious group.

I believe you enjoy denying their existence.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45618 Dec 15, 2012
former res wrote:
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More willful ignorance from the tropics.
Clearly we were speaking of religion.
I was referring to Frijoles' ethnoreligious group.
I believe you enjoy denying their existence.
Any denial of TRUTH comes from him and his rabbis and YOU. His quote defines ethnoreligious as a group with a UNIFIED RELIGIOUS system.

I have PROVEN to ALL with basic understanding that it is a FALSE doctrine. How so?

I have quoted from My Jewish Learning, a Jewish source, that says Jews are FLOCKING to Eastern religions. This alone tells YOU and other the dim-wit that there cannot be a ethnoreligious group when there are DIFFERENT religious beliefs of Jews?

Explain the UNITY, if you disagree.

Next I have stated plainly that many Jews are SECULAR and are without RELIGION so how can the term ethnoreligious be applicable to the Jewish people?

Are you following, son? Many Jews are Secular i.e. without Religion so ethnoreligious or a UNIFIED religious beliefs is nonsense. Also many others have OTHER religions so the concept of a UNIFIED religion makes no sense to even the average. I now speak from memory but the secular Jews are close to 50% of Jews . Get it Einstein?

The ethnoreligious concept is like saying Americans are supporters of the Democratic Party. Yes it is that intelligent.

Finally, perhaps for nearly a 1000 years the 10 Northern tribes of Israel did NOT practice "Judaism" and yet they were called Jews by God and His prophets. So the idea that Jews are an ethno-religious set is a blatant LIE and foolishness. I have History, Facts and the Bible on my side while YOU and your man, Frijoles and his rabbis have their TWISTED version of REALITY.

I'm off to church. Study this lesson for today and please don't open your mouth and continue to talk utter nonsense.
Voluntarist

United States

#45619 Dec 15, 2012
former res wrote:
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Ok, I'll leave you along.
:))
Do you know how to press the little microphone and speak your emails?
That's usually what I do when I'm on the phone.
Do you not own a computer? It seems you're always on a phone.
I'm always working on the road, douchbag.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45620 Dec 15, 2012
Frijoles' Post 45237---An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group) is an ethnic group of people whose members are also UNIFIED by a common religious background.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45621 Dec 15, 2012
HughBe wrote:
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Any denial of TRUTH comes from him and his rabbis and YOU. His quote defines ethnoreligious as a group with a UNIFIED RELIGIOUS system.
I have PROVEN to ALL with basic understanding that it is a FALSE doctrine. How so?
I have quoted from My Jewish Learning, a Jewish source, that says Jews are FLOCKING to Eastern religions. This alone tells YOU and other the dim-wit that there cannot be a ethnoreligious group when there are DIFFERENT religious beliefs of Jews?
Explain the UNITY, if you disagree.
Next I have stated plainly that many Jews are SECULAR and are without RELIGION so how can the term ethnoreligious be applicable to the Jewish people?
Are you following, son? Many Jews are Secular i.e. without Religion so ethnoreligious or a UNIFIED religious beliefs is nonsense. Also many others have OTHER religions so the concept of a UNIFIED religion makes no sense to even the average. I now speak from memory but the secular Jews are close to 50% of Jews . Get it Einstein?
The ethnoreligious concept is like saying Americans are supporters of the Democratic Party. Yes it is that intelligent.
Finally, perhaps for nearly a 1000 years the 10 Northern tribes of Israel did NOT practice "Judaism" and yet they were called Jews by God and His prophets. So the idea that Jews are an ethno-religious set is a blatant LIE and foolishness. I have History, Facts and the Bible on my side while YOU and your man, Frijoles and his rabbis have their TWISTED version of REALITY.
I'm off to church. Study this lesson for today and please don't open your mouth and continue to talk utter nonsense.
I believe that Jews are in a better positon to define themselves than you, a Christian, is.

Would you say you know more about Jamaican culture than I do? should I come along and tell you that have misidentified yourself and record show that you're really Irish?

why do you have such a problem with people born into one religion changing their chosen faith?

Person A - born Irish Catholic - changes to Luteran.

Person B - born Jewish - becomes atheist, but still biologically Jewish.(No longer ethnoreligious Jewish)

Why does this confuse you so?

Why do go to church on Saturday when you're clearly christian?

You're doing it all wrong.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45622 Dec 15, 2012
Voluntarist wrote:
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I'm always working on the road, douchbag.
Ok, shxt-for-brains, I hear you.

Lots of people work, but then they go home at night.

Why do you sound so angry all the time?

Even our president shed a tear yesterday. Did you?
former res

Broomall, PA

#45623 Dec 15, 2012
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles' Post 45237---An ethnoreligious group (or ethno-religious group) is an ethnic group of people whose members are also UNIFIED by a common religious background.
Historically, this defines the Jewish people.

Thank you for this.

This is correct.

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