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former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45576 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
His two lines of "evidence" he consistently uses to back up his world view that he is among the "true jews".
1. Bible - lots of examples how the Israelites screwed up and GOd punished them. Therefore the descendents of the Israelites (me) blew our chance to be the special ones.(the fallacy is that he ignores all the times the Israelites in the bible did good things as well)
2. Evolution of the Jewish religion. The Jewish religion is manmade (controlled by rabbis/overlords - the religion is practiced by liers) and does not follow the literal scriptures. Therefore todays Jews do not deserve to be the special ones.(Fallacy being that ALL religion is manmade, and that Jews dont follow the bible literally - i.e. his baseline data for what is Judaism is wrong).
Everything he says comes back to those two points.
Ok - thanks.

so far so good.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45577 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
And finally....
Evidence 1 is easy for him to find and to follow - he posts biblical quotes
Evidence 2 is a bit problematic. Because to assert it, he has to demonize Jewish people, and in the process make himself sound really silly.
Since it is obvious that Jews are not controlled by overlords, nor do we go around lying all the time, this creates congnitive dissonance. It takes mental and emotional energy for him to ignore this dissonance. Hence, he flies off the handle when you push him too much.
His outbursts are basically like the 2nd law of thermodynamics, energy naturally flows from a Higher State (Hughe keeping a straight face while experiencing and repressing cognitive dissonance) to a Lower State (yelling at us).
Being a repressed gay person doesnt help either.
He sounds like a walking, talking mass of conflicting impulses.

Not an ideal way to go through life.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45578 Dec 14, 2012
Unbelievable.

Newtown CT.

Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>

Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids

Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#45579 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
yes, I am a little shocked to say the least.
I know the town well.
voluntarist

United States

#45580 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
Probably another mind control assassin.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#45581 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
(Though I'm still not clear on why he has a problem with the ethno relious thing - only that they existed before Judaisn hence it is not THEIR religion - right?) I feel my brain beginning to ache.
I have tried three times to compose a post to explain his view and I keep coming up confused as well.

What i have noticed is that atheists are important to him because they show that Jews are really an ethnic group (i.e. Not all Jews are Jews) BUT at the same token he doesnt believe in ethnicity.

At times he tries to promote the idea of Christian Jews to show us Jews are not correct.

Ultimately, to him God gives Jews their identity (the cooties thing), not Rabinnical law of matriarchy. Therefore us Jews are not really Jews anymore because we follow Rabbis. Allowing him to step in. Pure (true Scott) Jews are ordained not created by man.

Thats the best I can offer on that subject.
voluntarist

United States

#45582 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
2 shooters definitely a government job.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#45583 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Probably another mind control assassin.
there was possibly more than one shooter
press conference within the hour
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#45584 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
2 shooters definitely a government job.
thats low. even for you

chances are you know someone who knows someone there

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45585 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I enjoy seeing his silly replies.
But life will go on just fine.
Yes, they can be quite entertaining. But I can also imagine his reaction to that (I believe you already made this observation):

voluntarist

United States

#45586 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
thats low. even for you
chances are you know someone who knows someone there
No, just the mo of the government, just like columbine.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45587 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Unbelievable.
Newtown CT.
Per CBS News, 12:29 P.M>
Elementary school rampage: 27 dead, at least 14 kids
Gunman opens fire in K-4 school in Conn., leaving dozens dead; Suspect dead
My cousin has kids in that school district. Luckily, they are okay.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#45588 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
thats low. even for you
chances are you know someone who knows someone there
Facts aren't even out yet but the conspiracy mill is churning away. ATF is seriously disturbed, and that is NOT a hyperbolic statement.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45589 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I have tried three times to compose a post to explain his view and I keep coming up confused as well.
What i have noticed is that atheists are important to him because they show that Jews are really an ethnic group (i.e. Not all Jews are Jews) BUT at the same token he doesnt believe in ethnicity.
At times he tries to promote the idea of Christian Jews to show us Jews are not correct.
Ultimately, to him God gives Jews their identity (the cooties thing), not Rabinnical law of matriarchy. Therefore us Jews are not really Jews anymore because we follow Rabbis. Allowing him to step in. Pure (true Scott) Jews are ordained not created by man.
Thats the best I can offer on that subject.
Perhaps as much clarity humanly possible to bring to this fellow's thinking.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45590 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
2 shooters definitely a government job.
Did the Libertarinas rip out your heart when they gave you your decoder ring?
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45591 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, they can be quite entertaining. But I can also imagine his reaction to that (I believe you already made this observation):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =IWINtUCshxYXX
I love that clip!
voluntarist

United States

#45592 Dec 14, 2012
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts aren't even out yet but the conspiracy mill is churning away. ATF is seriously disturbed, and that is NOT a hyperbolic statement.
It's no coincidence that the government is gunning to ban guns.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45593 Dec 14, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
And finally....
Evidence 1 is easy for him to find and to follow - he posts biblical quotes
Evidence 2 is a bit problematic. Because to assert it, he has to demonize Jewish people, and in the process make himself sound really silly.
Since it is obvious that Jews are not controlled by overlords, nor do we go around lying all the time, this creates congnitive dissonance. It takes mental and emotional energy for him to ignore this dissonance. Hence, he flies off the handle when you push him too much.
His outbursts are basically like the 2nd law of thermodynamics, energy naturally flows from a Higher State (Hughe keeping a straight face while experiencing and repressing cognitive dissonance) to a Lower State (yelling at us).
Being a repressed gay person doesnt help either.
Frijoles---Because to assert it, he has to demonize Jewish people, and in the process make himself sound really silly.

HughBe--- I look forward to the day when the Jewish people try LYING scums like you for crimes against humanity and deal with YOU and your ilk appropriately.

You are truly a lowlife.
former res

Newtown Square, PA

#45594 Dec 14, 2012
voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's no coincidence that the government is gunning to ban guns.
Do you think maybe "the queers" are also involved?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45595 Dec 14, 2012
former res wrote:
Huggy
I accept your surrender on the items left unanswered.
There is no dishonor in admitting you have come up against a better man.
Remain shiny and radiant.
And, if you have weekends in Jamaica, have a good one!
former res
My dear Former as ALWAYS, I accept that you are FAR BETTER at talking BS. I shall respond to your nonsense in due course. The sheer CS of your posts and more so that of the chief of the order of MORONS, Frijoles, was just too much.

When you are reincarnated 1000 then you shall be able to ask me religious questions that I am not able to answer.

enjoy the weekend.

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