HughBe--- Have you ever seen people talking to graves or people in a coffin?
PROVE to me that the person in the coffin cannot hear.
gods are indeed imaginary but NOT the Creator God. I talk to Him everday.
You can talk to a rock if you wish. It doesn't mean it hear you.
It is not incombent on me to prove the negative that the rock can not hear you. It is on YOU to prove otherwise.
Same with your god and dead friend or relative in the ground.
Former---In your own mind, of course you can do or be whatever you want.
HughBe-- Such an approach would reduce my mind to your level.
You claim to NOT have a powerful imagination? That would be too bad.
Former-- What do you mean by spititual existence?
HughBe--- a lifeforce that imparts life to people and is their true essence. In your mind, are you merely physical?
I don't understand your definition. Oxygen, food and water impart life. Photosynthesis imparts life. Cell division etc.
Am I merely physical? I'm open to other theories but haven't heard or seen anything yet to make me think otherwise.
Have you? Please share any miracles you know of.
Former---I realize in history that Jews were enslaved. Is this what you mean?
HughBe--- how could I mean that? I speak of today and for a long time they have had those who have lord it over them and would DARE to think that they can strip them of their identity IF they don't comply with their LYING teachings. The Jewish people need to challenge the DECEIVERS and LIARS. Use history, the FACTS of the BIBLE etc. and LIBERATE themselves from MENTAL slavery.
Couldn't this be said of all religions, governements etc?
I haven't noticed Frijoles complaining of these issues and he strikes me as an intelligent individual.
Former--What is a Jewish "overlord"? I don't know this term.
Why not just call them "rabbis" etc.
Why do you choose to deride them?
Doesn't this show a lack of respect for one of the oldest religions on earth? Even older than your own.
HUghBe--- beliefs noted. Share the. The real issue was YOU casting ASPERSIONS on the Jewish people. My question remains, above.
Former--I do not see this as disrespectful.
HughBe-- it is. You question their INTEGRITY. They hold it up as FACTS.
Most of the world holds beliefs which I do not share.
Am I better or smarter than all of them? don't know
If and when we ever learn this, it will probably be too late.
I believe most of them are sincere in their beliefs so I don not generally question their integrtiy unless they are asking for money. Life so many of the Christian TV preachers.
HughBe-- Again, do you hold a view as to how man came into existence?
Former--3rd time - NO, I not.
Former--I also don't hold a view as to what you had for breakfast today.
HughBe--- Strange comparison and strange position above.
I accept not knowing.
You feel the need to follow a man-made explanation and you build your entire world around that faith.
That is the difference.
HughBe --Why are some people SMARTER than others? Is it PHYSICAL traits?
Former---Combination of things.
HughBe--- tell me the combination.
Nature vs nurture.
"The nature versus nurture debate concerns the relative importance of an individual's innate qualities ("nature," i.e. nativism, or innatism) versus personal experiences ("nurture," i.e. empiricism or behaviorism) in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits."
Former--Racism is real. No argument here.
HughBe--- People need to move away from such an approach it only breeds hostility and other negatives.
Yes, racism, as homophobia, is wrong.
Blaming anyone for soemthing beyound their control is wrong.