Former---That is the difference between you and me.
HughBe--- This is the difference, COMMON SENSE on my side. My experiences teach me that INTELLIGENCE is required to create order, to design, to establish laws etc. I do not subscribe to the BS that insentience can do these things. I have NEVER seen that happen but perhaps you have and that accounts for your belief.
Former---Do not compare your thought process to mine.
HughBe--- They cannot be compared.
Former--We clearly have different standards for what we consider "true."
HughBe--- I regard fiction and the BASELESS figment of your imagination as UNTRUE.
Former--I will say I like ice cream. That I know for a fact.
But I will not claim to know who made the universe. That I do not know. And neither do you.
HughBe--- I know that you do not KNOW Him but I do.
Former--What other religions did you check into before randomly choosing one?
HughBe--- atheism and agnosticism.
Former--What if you read The Koran first and found that instantly convincing to you?
HughBe--- It is not a matter of first come first chosen. I have been exposed to the teachings of both Judaism and Islam on this forum, have you? Are you convinced of anything? Why not, if not?
Former--What makes you think God wrote the bible?
HughBe--- I have NEVER said that.
Former--Do you not see Judaism as the foundation of Christianity?
HughBe--- I see Jesus and the prophets as the foundation.
Former--How do you distinguish man-made from god-made religion?
HughBe--- Ask an intelligent question and surprise me please. God-made comes from God while man-made comes from man. Examples CORRUPT men want to strip the Jewish people of their IDENTITY if they don't follow their decrees e.g. belief in Jesus. Not even God got the Jewish people to worship Him continuously.
Former--Didn't god make man, in your view?
HughBe--- yes and a brainless set of atoms made YOU. In fact they probably vibrated monkeys first and then vibrated some more and made you. That is ok as you are heavy into vibrations.
Former--Nothing you believe can be proven and yet you still believe in it, so why draw the line at reincarnation?
HughBe--- Pay attention. I cannot relate to the experience PERSONALLY. If I have been here before I DO NOT know about it. Get it?
Former--It seems a bit arbitrary.
HughBe--- because understanding is lacking.
Former--I have no beliefs in the sense that you do, so I have nothing to prove.
HughBe--- WRONG, you do have beliefs based on your own definition. Recall, "belief without proof". YOU believe things without being able to PROVE them. Do you hold a view as to how man came into existence? If yes, prove your belief.
Former---Do you think you are superior to a pig?
HughBe--- In every way. From intelligence to dick size. It is a pity that even in the department of looks your rival, the pig, outdo you.