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Frijoles

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former res wrote:
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Was that YOU?!!!
Funny stuff.
I think I responded a few times.
I never responded back. To anyone. Matter of principle and character.

I did enjoy the people who would try to analyze what exactly I was outraged about. And the ones who missed the joke in my name.

And if I was in a particular foul mood, I would post (infrequently)under the name "DogPoopInMyFood".
former res

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Dec 5, 2012
 
Attorney Lionel Hutz esq wrote:
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THIS is an OUTRAGE!!!
ahhhh...makes me wonder what ever happend to the cow.

he's the one who taught me the word "sammitch!"

what was that other thing he always said??

you remember the retired gpd cop from south carolina?

i figure out who he was and he disappeared after that
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Frijoles wrote:
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So I was going to pose this question to Yoda....
If you make a two slurries of soil solution - the first with KCl and the second with distilled water, and test for pH of each slurry, and the KCl slurry sample has a lower pH than the distilled water slurry sample, is the soil minerology more dominated by kaolinite (a 1:1 clay) or smectite (a 2:1 clay)? Why?
rabbee: well that would be a swell one, for clay yogert. although i am not familiar of most soil chemistry and compositions. i would have to say kayolins, cause i am slightly familiar with bentonite here in colorado. but i also know, the that the OH hydroxide radical in koalin, is higher than in the bentonite here in colorado. but i am not familiar with all the forms of different types of clays. that plus the metalic silicates, tend to vary in smectite. and that it is really difficult to increase, acidity to bentonite clay here in colorado.
Frijoles

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Dec 5, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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ahhhh...makes me wonder what ever happend to the cow.
he's the one who taught me the word "sammitch!"
what was that other thing he always said??
you remember the retired gpd cop from south carolina?
i figure out who he was and he disappeared after that
What would your boy Lanny Davis say?
Frijoles

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rabbee: well that would be a swell one, for clay yogert. although i am not familiar of most soil chemistry and compositions. i would have to say kayolins, cause i am slightly familiar with bentonite here in colorado. but i also know, the that the OH hydroxide radical in koalin, is higher than in the bentonite here in colorado. but i am not familiar with all the forms of different types of clays. that plus the metalic silicates, tend to vary in smectite. and that it is really difficult to increase, acidity to bentonite clay here in colorado.
It was a hard one. The deal is that both types of clays have ph variable charges and ph permanent charges. The permanet charges are due to isomorphic substitution within the interior of the clay lattice of certain cat ions. The variable charges are due to protonation and deprotonation of -OH at the edge of the clays (depending on pH).(at low pH the -OH becomes -OH+2, at high Ph the -O) becomes -O)

These are phylosilicates - i.e. layered clays. 1:1 means silicon tetrahedral sheet paired with an aluminum octahedreal sheet. 2:1 means silicon sheet: aluminum sheet: silicon sheet.

1:1 clays have more pH variable charges than 2:1 clays, and therefore an anion exchange capacity (AEC) at low pH. Low pH of KCL sample indicates an AEC potential, therefore the sample is more likely to be 1:1.

That was a hard one. I know.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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It was a hard one. The deal is that both types of clays have ph variable charges and ph permanent charges. The permanet charges are due to isomorphic substitution within the interior of the clay lattice of certain cat ions. The variable charges are due to protonation and deprotonation of -OH at the edge of the clays (depending on pH).(at low pH the -OH becomes -OH+2, at high Ph the -O) becomes -O)
These are phylosilicates - i.e. layered clays. 1:1 means silicon tetrahedral sheet paired with an aluminum octahedreal sheet. 2:1 means silicon sheet: aluminum sheet: silicon sheet.
1:1 clays have more pH variable charges than 2:1 clays, and therefore an anion exchange capacity (AEC) at low pH. Low pH of KCL sample indicates an AEC potential, therefore the sample is more likely to be 1:1.
That was a hard one. I know.
rabbee: hey as long as i had, the righ answer. without all, the other fancy stuff. i am happy, even if it did stess my brain remembering stuff i had actually done. and a really really, long time ago. not exactly like total recall, but close enough for dancing.
Frijoles

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rabbee: hey as long as i had, the righ answer. without all, the other fancy stuff. i am happy, even if it did stess my brain remembering stuff i had actually done. and a really really, long time ago. not exactly like total recall, but close enough for dancing.
I made a boo boo. I meant to say the KCL sample had a HIGHER pH.(AEC greater than the CEC (cat ion exchange capacity).

I have another question - this one more open (I dotn know the answer to)

Why is it my hair turns to straw when I swim in a chlorinated pool? Do the special swimmers shampoos actually work? They claim to acidify and most of them have sulfur.
Frijoles

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adios!
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Dec 5, 2012
 
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adios!
Hey!

It's not Friday.

;)

Shalom
MUQ

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Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-1

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : OMAR BIN KHATTAB BIN NOUFEL, the 2nd Caliph of Islam.

A. Early History:

Omar, the famed second Caliph of Islam was from the ADI clan of Makkah, he was a known warrior of Makkah, very brave, very outspoken, a man of infinite resolute and firmness.

His family was responsible for solving “Inter clan” disputes in conflicts, so he had much interaction with people of different tribes of Arabia, before prophet declared his mission.

His Uncle Zaid Bin Noufel, was one of the group, which is called “Haneef”, i.e. ones who had stopped worship of idols and kept them aloof from religious life of Makkan people. Both Omar and his father Khattab were unhappy with Zaid and used to ridicule him openly.

When prophet declared his mission, Omar became one of his staunchest enemies. He used to torture those who had become Muslims.

He was in that state for first 8 years of Prophet’s mission in Makkah and he witnessed as a non believer, muslims migration to Abyssinia…..the scene touched his heart….so many people leaving their homeland for the sake of their faith….there must be some thing in it, he thought.

B. How did prophet “slay” him:

One night prophet prayed to Allah,“I beseech you to strengthen Islam with either Omar or ‘Amr (Abu Jahl)…”.

Not long after that, Omar came out of his house with unsheathed sword in his hand and moving in the direction of house where Prophet used to teach his followers.

“Where are you going, Omar” some one asked him

“I am going to Kill Mohammad and end this trouble once for all” said Omar.

“First you should take care of your own house, before going to kill Mohammad, do you know , your sister and her husband have both become Muslims” he said to Omar.

Omar was stunned with this news, he immediately changed his route and went to his sister’s house. He listened Quran being recited from inside, he knocked the door with force and when his brother in law opened it, he started beating him…..when his sister tried to save her husband, Omar slapped her with force, and her nose started bleeding.

His sister said Loudly “Yes Omar, we have become Muslims, do what you can!!”.

Omar felt ashamed by seeing blood running on face of her sister, his anger was gone and he asked “show me what you were reading”…..He was shown one chapter of Quran and when he read, his doubts vanished.

He went straight to prophet and became Muslim, his conversion pleased prophet and Muslims very much, because they have won to their side, one strong pillar of strength.

C. His Life with Prophet:

Omar soon became a trusted companion of prophet and he was with prophet for remaining period of his Makkan and Medina period.

He was with prophet in all battles and was consulted by prophet in every major issue. His stature amongst all companions of prophet was next only to Abu Bakr, the first Caliph.

Prophet trusted him intimately and sent him on many missions, his knowledge about Islam and its legal and ritual system increased with each passing day.

Prophet was extremely happy with him and on more than one occasion predicted that he will enter paradise.

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MUQ

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D. With First Caliph:

When prophet dies in year 11 AH, Omar was instrumental in installing Abu Bakr as First Caliph and saw to it that no dispute took place amongst Muslims.

He was most trusted companion of Abu Bakr in the difficult period of Muslim nation after the death of Prophet. With infinite resolution of Abu Bakr and strong support by Omar and other Companions , internal strife was soon overcome.

Abu Bake then decided to take head on “The two super powers of that age” Iran and Byzantine both at the same time. He dispatched armies to both directions.

During his short life time of two years, most of Iraq was freed from Iran and some portion of Syria was taken from Roman empire…..but the battles were far from over.

E. As second Caliph:

On his death bed, Abu Bakr Nominated Omar to be his heir…..when he became Caliph ….he started the mission which Abu Bake had started.

During his reign of 12 years, Iran was crushed as a Superpower….whole of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, and Egypt were added to Islamic nation. Omar personally took the keys of City of Jerusalem from Christians.

In very short period of ten years, Omar became the ruler of Biggest Land Nation…..the size of country does not matter much, it was his justice , fair play and impartiality that places him amongst the most able rulers of the world.

His life history as ruler of Muslim state, is exemplary and guide lamp for Muslims of all ages.

He was martyred after 12 years of leading Muslim nation as Caliph and was buried along side Prophet and Abu Bakr….the “Best Honor” that he wished in this life!!

Such is the wonderful story of Omar, who was “slain” by the “Prayer of prophet”!!

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
former res

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Drake Baby Formula wrote:
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Do you have anything else to add fruity nutbar? How about the law of not runing people over while driving.
Is it possible that in another life you were a driving instructor?

Do you by chance live in Co-op City?

I understand it's lovely this time year.
Jump for Joy

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Dec 5, 2012
 
You cannot force Jews to become practising Jews. There are always going to be people who want to be different. What are you going to do about the atheist,messianic and the agnostic Jews that are already in Israel? Are you going to force them at gun point to convert? Jews are a race, DNA proves that and not just a religion! The above are just as Jewish as anyone else and just as loyal to Israel! One of these days those freaks the Ultra Orthodox Jews will rule Israel and those pigs are worse that Muslims.
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former res wrote:
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Hey!
It's not Friday.
;)
Shalom
No, it sure isnt.
former res

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No, it sure isnt.
Where is our new driving commentator friend?

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Where is our new driving commentator friend?
Got busted for jay walking.
former res

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Cult of Reason wrote:
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Got busted for jay walking.
BDF (Baby Drake Formula) says he walks around with a "satelite dish on my head."

I hope this isn't a safety concern when negotiating traffic (or in lightning!).
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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I made a boo boo. I meant to say the KCL sample had a HIGHER pH.(AEC greater than the CEC (cat ion exchange capacity).
I have another question - this one more open (I dotn know the answer to)
Why is it my hair turns to straw when I swim in a chlorinated pool? Do the special swimmers shampoos actually work? They claim to acidify and most of them have sulfur.
rabbee: well i think you mean, a lower ph. less than 7 is acidic, and greater than 7 is basic. and potassium and sodium chlorides, are very slightly acidic. and distilled water, does not always have a ph of exactly neutral 7ph. since water can take on, a hydroxide HOH or acidic H2O form.

and adding chlorine, hypochlorite, or chloramine to water makes he water more acidic. so if you have ever used a carbolic acid soap, you tend to get the same effect. so i do not know, if adding more acid is a wise idea. one would think, you would use a mild hydroxide soap and slight alkaline conditioner to counteract it. and then to replace the oil in the hair, so that the barbs on hair lays back down and does not act like velcro. and hydroxide and oils lubricates, and acids don't lubricate at all. as you might say that acids, are the opposite of lubrication. and result in a rougher texture, to the hair. and i would avoid sulfites, on the hair.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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Jump for Joy wrote:
You cannot force Jews to become practising Jews. There are always going to be people who want to be different. What are you going to do about the atheist,messianic and the agnostic Jews that are already in Israel? Are you going to force them at gun point to convert? Jews are a race, DNA proves that and not just a religion! The above are just as Jewish as anyone else and just as loyal to Israel! One of these days those freaks the Ultra Orthodox Jews will rule Israel and those pigs are worse that Muslims.
rabbee: well i do not believe, you can call jews* a race. since the multitudes that left egypt, were not all Evareem. and not only that because of the converts, since then tends to remove the racial designation. so i would not put my faith, that dna can determine who is a jew* or who isn't. and the tribe that Avraham came from, would also have simular dna structure. so that dna is not, an absolute soul determinant.

and lastly, i do not look at it, like this world does. i only go by who is true to G-D or not, here in TheStory of Creation again. so i don't care whether, you are self considered as jewish, christian, muslem, chinese, brittish, french, african, athiest, martian, or other pagan. or anyother diverse way, you have alienated yourself from G-D, here in TheSame Story again. since none of that crap, makes you true blue to G-D.
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Former--I do not claim to speak the truth.......

HughBe--- Accepted

Former---That is the difference between you and me.

HughBe--- This is the difference, COMMON SENSE on my side. My experiences teach me that INTELLIGENCE is required to create order, to design, to establish laws etc. I do not subscribe to the BS that insentience can do these things. I have NEVER seen that happen but perhaps you have and that accounts for your belief.

Former---Do not compare your thought process to mine.

HughBe--- They cannot be compared.

Former--We clearly have different standards for what we consider "true."

HughBe--- I regard fiction and the BASELESS figment of your imagination as UNTRUE.

Former--I will say I like ice cream. That I know for a fact.
But I will not claim to know who made the universe. That I do not know. And neither do you.

HughBe--- I know that you do not KNOW Him but I do.

Former--What other religions did you check into before randomly choosing one?

HughBe--- atheism and agnosticism.

Former--What if you read The Koran first and found that instantly convincing to you?

HughBe--- It is not a matter of first come first chosen. I have been exposed to the teachings of both Judaism and Islam on this forum, have you? Are you convinced of anything? Why not, if not?

Former--What makes you think God wrote the bible?

HughBe--- I have NEVER said that.

Former--Do you not see Judaism as the foundation of Christianity?

HughBe--- I see Jesus and the prophets as the foundation.

Former--How do you distinguish man-made from god-made religion?

HughBe--- Ask an intelligent question and surprise me please. God-made comes from God while man-made comes from man. Examples CORRUPT men want to strip the Jewish people of their IDENTITY if they don't follow their decrees e.g. belief in Jesus. Not even God got the Jewish people to worship Him continuously.

Former--Didn't god make man, in your view?

HughBe--- yes and a brainless set of atoms made YOU. In fact they probably vibrated monkeys first and then vibrated some more and made you. That is ok as you are heavy into vibrations.

Former--Nothing you believe can be proven and yet you still believe in it, so why draw the line at reincarnation?

HughBe--- Pay attention. I cannot relate to the experience PERSONALLY. If I have been here before I DO NOT know about it. Get it?

Former--It seems a bit arbitrary.

HughBe--- because understanding is lacking.

Former--I have no beliefs in the sense that you do, so I have nothing to prove.

HughBe--- WRONG, you do have beliefs based on your own definition. Recall, "belief without proof". YOU believe things without being able to PROVE them. Do you hold a view as to how man came into existence? If yes, prove your belief.

Former---Do you think you are superior to a pig?

HughBe--- In every way. From intelligence to dick size. It is a pity that even in the department of looks your rival, the pig, outdo you.

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